SD residents can face 6 years in jail for washing their cars

[New Chalcedon]

Yeah, he deserved worse. I apologize for his behavior on behalf of the region.

I'm more on the 'sibling rivalry' sort of thing, in that I 'hate' socal, but not really. I like California as a whole and while I still think I live in Better California, as soon as someone else makes fun of it, I'm all up in arms...well, not really, because then I wouldn't get anything done, 'cause hacks like to complain about California a lot. But you get the idea.

So you're allowed to pick on them dumb hicks in SoCal, but no-one else is. Got it

[Farnhamia]

I'm more on the 'sibling rivalry' sort of thing, in that I 'hate' socal, but not really. I like California as a whole and while I still think I live in Better California, as soon as someone else makes fun of it, I'm all up in arms...well, not really, because then I wouldn't get anything done, 'cause hacks like to complain about California a lot. But you get the idea.

So you're allowed to pick on them dumb hicks in SoCal, but no-one else is. Got it

It's a well-established principle. For instance, I can make jokes about New Jersey because I grew up there but don't anyone else try it.

[Yumyumsuppertime]

I'm more on the 'sibling rivalry' sort of thing, in that I 'hate' socal, but not really. I like California as a whole and while I still think I live in Better California, as soon as someone else makes fun of it, I'm all up in arms...well, not really, because then I wouldn't get anything done, 'cause hacks like to complain about California a lot. But you get the idea.

So you're allowed to pick on them dumb hicks in SoCal, but no-one else is. Got it

Yep. And I can mock NorCal to the ends of the Earth, but nobody else better say a word against 'em.

[Laerod]

I wish I was kidding: http://www.infowars.com/san-diegans-face-6-years-in-prison-for-washing-their-car/

San Diego Residents Face 6 Years In Prison For Washing Their Car: New environmental water rules enforced by citizen snitch program

San Diegans could face 6 years in prison and fines of $100,000 dollars a day for washing their car in the driveway or failing to pick up dog poop under new EPA-mandated environmental regulations related to water quality.

Although residents of the city are forced to drink toxic waste in their water supply in the form of sodium fluoride, measures imposed as a consequence of the Environmental Protection Agency’s Clean Water Act would turn the most mundane of activities into a criminal offense.

Right in an effort to bring some sanity to this: No. No.

Specifically, it's not EPA-mandated, it's a San Diego mandated thing. If it was EPA-mandated, then why the fuck limit it to San Diego?

And the penalties? Nowhere near as stiff as claimed and certainly not as a first resort.

[New Chalcedon]

So you're allowed to pick on them dumb hicks in SoCal, but no-one else is. Got it

It's a well-established principle. For instance, I can make jokes about New Jersey because I grew up there but don't anyone else try it.

Like I said, I got it

[The Land Fomerly Known as Ligerplace]

I wish I was kidding: http://www.infowars.com/san-diegans-face-6-years-in-prison-for-washing-their-car/

Right in an effort to bring some sanity to this: No. No.

Specifically, it's not EPA-mandated, it's a [url=http://www.sandiego.gov

This is where I started trusting.

[Cannot think of a name]

I'm more on the 'sibling rivalry' sort of thing, in that I 'hate' socal, but not really. I like California as a whole and while I still think I live in Better California, as soon as someone else makes fun of it, I'm all up in arms...well, not really, because then I wouldn't get anything done, 'cause hacks like to complain about California a lot. But you get the idea.

Dear California,

Suck it.

Love,
Oregon

You're just mad because we're filling you up with ex-pat hippies. But you got a funny sketch comedy show out of it, so...

[The Emerald Dawn]

Dear California,

Suck it.

Love,
Oregon

You're just mad because we're filling you up with ex-pat hippies. But you got a funny sketch comedy show out of it, so...

This post contains truth. In fact, one might indeed call the post itself "Truth" without error.

[The Corparation]

I wish I was kidding: [url]http://www.infowars

This is where I stopped.

First response put it best. Come back with something other then infowars and then talk.

[Wind in the Willows]

This is stupid.

[Laerod]

This is stupid.

Preach it. People really should look up the nonsense they post before doing so.

[Free South Califas]

The 'source', such as it is, demonstrates (or worse, aims to engender) a certain confusion of which government is doing what to whom, especially between local, county and federal governments.

Protip: Never source infowars.com, not because it's some dangerous revolutionary zine, but because it's pretty much the opposite.

To address the issue: Southern California, and San Diego in particular, are absurdly overpopulated relative to the long-term availability and security of water in the region. Radical policy changes may be required to deal with it, but should focus on business waste first, then personal waste if necessary, then necessary business use, then necessary personal use (washing one's car is necessary to prevent damage, especially in such a biodiverse area as San Diego where abrasive stuff can accumulate on the car). Also, the 'snitch line' is problematic for a lot of people here, who don't much appreciate that particular kind of government function. On the other hand, if regulating necessary personal use of water were itself necessary--not that I think it is, yet--it's hard to imagine how it could be enforced in a fair and fiscally responsible way other than through a snitch line. Police officers already field relatively anonymous reports on all kinds of offenses, and it's not particularly scrutinized elsewhere as far as I am aware of.

[Novaya Tselinoyarsk]

Eh, it isn't nearly as bad as "infowars", which by the way is an awesome source, puts it.

[Armenia Reborn]

Nice try. Go to the website.

Negatory there Ghost Rider, the burden of proof for the claim is on the claimer.

Where the proof is. Since this is not a debate, your debate guidelines don't apply. Note that I refuse to abide by them regardless. The burden of proof for my supposed burden of proof is on you.

I'll make sure to source the Huffington Post, Daily Kos, next time.

[L Ron Cupboard]

Well of course the alien space lizards behind the NWO are interested in conserving water.

[The Emerald Dawn]

Negatory there Ghost Rider, the burden of proof for the claim is on the claimer.

Where the proof is. Since this is not a debate, your debate guidelines don't apply. Note that I refuse to abide by them regardless. The burden of proof for my supposed burden of proof is on you.

I'll make sure to source the Huffington Post, Daily Kos, next time.

You claim the EPA is a black hole of money, you back that claim up. You don't back that claim up, you have no credibility. Debate 101.

[Laerod]

Where the proof is. Since this is not a debate, your debate guidelines don't apply. Note that I refuse to abide by them regardless. The burden of proof for my supposed burden of proof is on you.

I'll make sure to source the Huffington Post, Daily Kos, next time. :)

You claim the EPA is a black hole of money, you back that claim up. You don't back that claim up, you have no credibility. Debate 101.

What does the EPA even have to do with the topic of the thread?

[The Emerald Dawn]

You claim the EPA is a black hole of money, you back that claim up. You don't back that claim up, you have no credibility. Debate 101.

What does the EPA even have to do with the topic of the thread?

No, you're not.



How old are you? You do realize that the EPA isn't a company right? The head of the EPA doesn't get to keep all the money that comes in.

How did you get that from what I posted? The EPA is a Federal agency with absolutely no direct accountability to the American people as it's head is appointed, not elected. With the amount of money that goes down blackholes due to corruption and other factors in Federal Agencies, I, you, anyone could be a very rich man.

[Armenia Reborn]

Where the proof is. Since this is not a debate, your debate guidelines don't apply. Note that I refuse to abide by them regardless. The burden of proof for my supposed burden of proof is on you.

I'll make sure to source the Huffington Post, Daily Kos, next time.

You claim the EPA is a black hole of money, you back that claim up. You don't back that claim up, you have no credibility. Debate 101.

Debate 101 requires that a debate take place, which it is not.

I suggested that all Federal Agencies are a blackhole of money.

[The Emerald Dawn]

You claim the EPA is a black hole of money, you back that claim up. You don't back that claim up, you have no credibility. Debate 101.

Debate 101 requires that a debate take place, which it is not.

I suggested that all Federal Agencies are a blackhole of money.

[Khadgar]

You claim the EPA is a black hole of money, you back that claim up. You don't back that claim up, you have no credibility. Debate 101.

Debate 101 requires that a debate take place, which it is not.

I suggested that all Federal Agencies are a blackhole of money.

If you don't want a debate to take place, a debate forum is a rather foolish place to post your bullshit. Source your statements, from a reliable source, or piss off.

[Armenia Reborn]

Debate 101 requires that a debate take place, which it is not.

I suggested that all Federal Agencies are a blackhole of money.

A conversation/discussion on an internet forum is not a debate.

[Armenia Reborn]

Debate 101 requires that a debate take place, which it is not.

I suggested that all Federal Agencies are a blackhole of money.

If you don't want a debate to take place, a debate forum is a rather foolish place to post your bullshit. Source your statements, from a reliable source, or piss off.

This is a debate forum? Where does it say that? (Burden of Proof!!!!!) In order for me to "debate" anyone, I must have a point and they must have a point which they are trying to logically prove. This doesn't seem to fall into that category.

What constitutes as a reliable source is also very subjective.

[Laerod]

:eyebrow:

A conversation/discussion on an internet forum is not a debate.

The conversation thread is the most recent incarnation of The Eternal Thread. This is not the place for it.

[Corporate Councils]

I wish I was kidding: http://www.infowars.com/san-diegans-face-6-years-in-prison-for-washing-their-car/

Right in an effort to bring some sanity to this: No. No.

Specifically, it's not EPA-mandated, it's a San Diego mandated thing. If it was EPA-mandated, then why the fuck limit it to San Diego?

And the penalties? Nowhere near as stiff as claimed and certainly not as a first resort.

So the city of San Diego has placed reasonable regulations on how water should be used in a water-scarce environment? CONSPIRACY!