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Postby Dyakovo » Thu Nov 15, 2012 5:43 am

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Dyakovo wrote:Pretty much... There's nothing special about Texas... Well, unless you count having been a failed state as being something special...


I've never lived in the US but if I did it would be Texas. That says a lot because my standards are incredibly high stupid.

Austin is right up there amongst the most liveable cities in the world.

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Postby Northern Dominus » Thu Nov 15, 2012 5:44 am

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Northern Dominus wrote:Well to be fair, on paper they probably could do pretty well as a state. Texas has its own independent power grid and infrastructure, research network, aerospace and other industries so technically it would do alright if it split away.

The issue is if course once they split off and lose access to the might and muscle of the US military and federal agenices like the FBI and ATF, what is exactly stopping the cartels from completely running amok in the southern towns? Last I checked they're better equipped than the local sheriffs most of the time.

The ignoramuses that support secession probably think that they would be able to keep all the military equipment that's there...
Exactly. Which would make the shocked expressions all the more delicious when they see the Abrams, Strykers, and all the logistical trucks full of weapons, ammunition, explosives, and equipment making a beeline for the border :D
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Postby Srboslavija » Thu Nov 15, 2012 5:45 am

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I've never lived in the US but if I did it would be Texas. That says a lot because my standards are incredibly high.

Austin is right up there amongst the most liveable cities in the world.


And Austin is right up there amongst the localities in Texas that would try to secede back to the United States if Texas ever left the Union.


They're still Texans even if they are Blue...

Besides, we don't take too kindly to separatists and the appropriate course of action would be taken to keep Austin Texan.
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Postby Srboslavija » Thu Nov 15, 2012 5:46 am

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I've never lived in the US but if I did it would be Texas. That says a lot because my standards are incredibly high stupid.

Austin is right up there amongst the most liveable cities in the world.

Fixed that for you.
I'm sure its an improvement over what you're used to...


You ever been to Dallas? Austin? Huston?

Please...
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Postby Dyakovo » Thu Nov 15, 2012 5:47 am

Srboslavija wrote:
Dyakovo wrote:The ignoramuses that support secession probably think that they would be able to keep all the military equipment that's there...


"Just try to pry my military equipment from my cold dead hands"

1: It isn't their military equipment.
2: That is a challenge that, if taken, Texas would lose horribly.
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Postby Sdaeriji » Thu Nov 15, 2012 5:49 am

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And Austin is right up there amongst the localities in Texas that would try to secede back to the United States if Texas ever left the Union.


They're still Texans even if they are Blue...

Besides, we don't take too kindly to separatists and the appropriate course of action would be taken to keep Austin Texan.


We?
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Postby Dyakovo » Thu Nov 15, 2012 5:50 am

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Sdaeriji wrote:
And Austin is right up there amongst the localities in Texas that would try to secede back to the United States if Texas ever left the Union.


They're still Texans even if they are Blue...

Besides, we don't take too kindly to separatists and the appropriate course of action would be taken to keep Austin Texan.

:rofl:
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Postby Dyakovo » Thu Nov 15, 2012 5:51 am

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Dyakovo wrote:Fixed that for you.
I'm sure its an improvement over what you're used to...


You ever been to Dallas? Austin? Huston?

Please...

Fair enough... You're right, it might not be an improvement...
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Postby Dyakovo » Thu Nov 15, 2012 5:53 am

Sdaeriji wrote:
Srboslavija wrote:
They're still Texans even if they are Blue...

Besides, we don't take too kindly to separatists and the appropriate course of action would be taken to keep Austin Texan.


We?

Apparently he's Hippo 2.0...
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Postby Northern Dominus » Thu Nov 15, 2012 5:57 am

Dyakovo wrote:
Srboslavija wrote:
They're still Texans even if they are Blue...

Besides, we don't take too kindly to separatists and the appropriate course of action would be taken to keep Austin Texan.

:rofl:
The hypocrisy is just delicious...
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That does it, I'm all in favor of the south leaving peaceably. The future will be bigger and brighter indeed. :D
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Postby Srboslavija » Thu Nov 15, 2012 5:58 am

Sdaeriji wrote:
Srboslavija wrote:
They're still Texans even if they are Blue...

Besides, we don't take too kindly to separatists and the appropriate course of action would be taken to keep Austin Texan.


We?


My heart is very much in The Lone Star state. As is my spirit.
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Postby Sdaeriji » Thu Nov 15, 2012 6:00 am

Srboslavija wrote:
Sdaeriji wrote:
We?


My heart is very much in The Lone Star state. As is my spirit.


That sounds like a pretty serious condition. Where is the rest of your body? Do your doctor's know your heart has been removed and taken halfway across the world?
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Postby Benutanairan » Thu Nov 15, 2012 6:01 am

Sdaeriji wrote:
Srboslavija wrote:
My heart is very much in The Lone Star state. As is my spirit.


That sounds like a pretty serious condition. Where is the rest of your body? Do your doctor's know your heart has been removed and taken halfway across the world?



Love the bitching sarcasm here.
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Postby Sdaeriji » Thu Nov 15, 2012 6:03 am

Benutanairan wrote:
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That sounds like a pretty serious condition. Where is the rest of your body? Do your doctor's know your heart has been removed and taken halfway across the world?



Love the bitching sarcasm here.


I think you misspelled "bitchy".
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Postby Benutanairan » Thu Nov 15, 2012 6:05 am

Sdaeriji wrote:
Benutanairan wrote:

Love the bitching sarcasm here.


I think you misspelled "bitchy".



No I intently said it like that for a reason

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=bitching

XD.

The first one might apply ( especially to the sarcasm)
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Postby Srboslavija » Thu Nov 15, 2012 6:47 am

Dyakovo wrote:
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They're still Texans even if they are Blue...

Besides, we don't take too kindly to separatists and the appropriate course of action would be taken to keep Austin Texan.

:rofl:
The hypocrisy is just delicious...


How so?
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Postby Dyakovo » Thu Nov 15, 2012 6:51 am

Srboslavija wrote:
Dyakovo wrote: :rofl:
The hypocrisy is just delicious...


How so?

:rofl:
This just makes it even funnier...
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Postby Srboslavija » Thu Nov 15, 2012 7:01 am

Are you seriously trying to compare the secession rights of a clearly defined State - to that of a singular city? Not only is there no legal context or precedent to validate such a move, any attempts to draw comparison between the two scenarios is completely null and void.
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Postby Sdaeriji » Thu Nov 15, 2012 7:01 am

Srboslavija wrote:Are you seriously trying to compare the secession rights of a clearly defined State - to that of a singular city? Not only is there no legal context or precedent to validate such a move, any attempts to draw comparison between the two scenarios is completely null and void.


Oh man, that's great.
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Postby Zathganastan » Thu Nov 15, 2012 7:05 am

Srboslavija wrote:Are you seriously trying to compare the secession rights of a clearly defined State - to that of a singular city? Not only is there no legal context or precedent to validate such a move, any attempts to draw comparison between the two scenarios is completely null and void.

Oh really show me a state law which says otherwise.
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Postby Tigeria » Thu Nov 15, 2012 7:07 am

Zathganastan wrote:
Tigeria wrote:Im Texan and I'm all for what Texas decides, I was born in Texas, therefore I'm Texan before American.

However I'd be a little worried about Mexico if we gain Independence, the border situation could get worse.


Your not Texan your an American residing in the state of Texas, which is really something some people really need to start realizing that there is a whole country outside their random state and that you can't just decide your threw whenever your candidate doesn't win the election.Oh and also one would do well to remember that a lot of the infrastructure, utilities, and military equipment , is payed for a provided by the federal government so anything that can be moved out of state will be while be taken and everything else will either have to be bought from the US or it will likely be destroyed.




I AM TEXAN, I want to secede because of government policy, not something as immature as candidate, besides we can leave because its in our constitution.
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Postby Dyakovo » Thu Nov 15, 2012 7:08 am

Srboslavija wrote:Are you seriously trying to compare the secession rights of a clearly defined State - to that of a singular city? Not only is there no legal context or precedent to validate such a move, any attempts to draw comparison between the two scenarios is completely null and void.

Yes. Being a separatist is being a separatist. Simple as that.
If Texas has the "right" to secede from the union (they dont), then Austin has the right to secede from Texas.
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Postby Bottle » Thu Nov 15, 2012 7:10 am

Anybody who wants to secede can easily do so; renouncing your citizenship is not particularly difficult, and there are quite a few of us Ebil LIbruls who will be only too happy to chip in to buy you a plane ticket out of the country.
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Postby Hurdegaryp » Thu Nov 15, 2012 7:12 am

Also expect the rise of city-states within the newly independent former US states, since what good is a collapse of an empire without some proper territorial fragmentation?
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Postby Dyakovo » Thu Nov 15, 2012 7:13 am

Tigeria wrote:
Zathganastan wrote:
Your not Texan your an American residing in the state of Texas, which is really something some people really need to start realizing that there is a whole country outside their random state and that you can't just decide your threw whenever your candidate doesn't win the election.Oh and also one would do well to remember that a lot of the infrastructure, utilities, and military equipment , is payed for a provided by the federal government so anything that can be moved out of state will be while be taken and everything else will either have to be bought from the US or it will likely be destroyed.




I AM TEXAN1, I want to secede because of government policy, not something as immature as candidate 2 , besides we can leave because its in our constitution 3 .

1: No, you are a citizen of the US who happens to be a resident of Texas.
2: Sure. That's why you've been calling for secession all along, instead of just now when your candidate lost...
Oh, wait...
3: No it isn't. There is nothing in the Texas constitution that grants them the right to secede.
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