Secession Movement in the United States

[Farnhamia]

Go make it officially awesome. Go on.

Honor thy Ex-nation?

Why not? It was pretty humorous.

[Laerod]

Honor thy Ex-nation?

Why not? It was pretty humorous.

I unno. It got kinda old pretty fast.

[Srboslavija]

.... my home country of Indiana

We are only at grass-roots level now but one day it will be a reality, my brother.

https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/peacefully-grant-state-indiana-withdraw-united-states-america-and-create-its-own-new-government/51jYVZ5L
18,447 strong at the moment. SIGN!

[The Emerald Dawn]

.... my home country of Indiana

We are only at grass-roots level now but one day it will be a reality, my brother.

https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/peacefully-grant-state-indiana-withdraw-united-states-america-and-create-its-own-new-government/51jYVZ5L
18,447 strong at the moment. SIGN!

What color is the sky in that magical candy land of yours?

[The Zeonic States]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Union_blockade

I could have sworn i included it but here

British officers on leave and British sailors served in some of the blockade runners. No Royal Navy ships engaged any United States Navy ships.

Private vessels crewed by English sailors, Carrying supplies for the Confederate States being paid by private interests which unforunately none are listed and therefore i cannot see where that money was coming from which is a pity.

If they were shell companies for the english government it would make proving this so much easier but alas no bussiness were listed and therefore i can only maintain my own position on english support for the C.S.A supported by private english and government either being fine with it or turning a blind eye to it.

Honest i still believe they were in on it but i can find no proof that can support that claim and i still maintain that the English recognized the Confederacy as Legtimate but apparently it was mostly just their Merchants and sailors.

Ah well I still personally consider the Confederacy as a formerly independent series of States.

[Laerod]

.... my home country of Indiana

:clap:

We are only at grass-roots level now but one day it will be a reality, my brother.

https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/peacefully-grant-state-indiana-withdraw-united-states-america-and-create-its-own-new-government/51jYVZ5L
18,447 strong at the moment. SIGN!

We ARE the 0.3%!

[Hungry]

Yes, let them leave, Self-Determination, Self Governance, other crap I'm using to get Jesusville out of America and maybe get America into the 21st Century.

[Farnhamia]

Yes, let them leave, Self-Determination, Self Governance, other crap I'm using to get Jesusville out of America and maybe get America into the 21st Century.

No, not giving them the satisfaction.

[Trotskylvania]

Yes, let them leave, Self-Determination, Self Governance, other crap I'm using to get Jesusville out of America and maybe get America into the 21st Century.

And surrender those who don't want to leave to reactionary parochial tyranny? No thanks.

[Ruridova]

.... my home country of Indiana

We are only at grass-roots level now but one day it will be a reality, my brother.

https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/peacefully-grant-state-indiana-withdraw-united-states-america-and-create-its-own-new-government/51jYVZ5L
18,447 strong at the moment. SIGN!

I'd only sign if I was assured that gag names would not be counted.

[Laerod]

British officers on leave and British sailors served in some of the blockade runners. No Royal Navy ships engaged any United States Navy ships.

Private vessels crewed by English sailors, Carrying supplies for the Confederate States being paid by private interests which unforunately none are listed and therefore i cannot see where that money was coming from which is a pity.

If they were shell companies for the english government it would make proving this so much easier but alas no bussiness were listed and therefore i can only maintain my own position on english support for the C.S.A supported by private english and government either being fine with it or turning a blind eye to it.

:meh: Honest i still believe they were in on it but i can find no proof that can support that claim and i still maintain that the English recognized the Confederacy as Legtimate but apparently it was mostly just their Merchants and sailors.

Ah well I still personally consider the Confederacy as a formerly independent series of States.

Maintaining a claim that there is zero evidence for is dumb. Particularly considering that secret recognition is not recognition.

[Galloism]

We are only at grass-roots level now but one day it will be a reality, my brother.

https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/peacefully-grant-state-indiana-withdraw-united-states-america-and-create-its-own-new-government/51jYVZ5L
18,447 strong at the moment. SIGN!

We ARE the 0.3%!

Ok, of all places, why the fuck Indiana secede?

The only water access is the great lakes, and those are controlled by other countries (part by the US and part by Canada).

There's nowhere that you can run your own trade out of.

[Norsklow]

British officers on leave and British sailors served in some of the blockade runners. No Royal Navy ships engaged any United States Navy ships.

Private vessels crewed by English sailors, Carrying supplies for the Confederate States being paid by private interests which unforunately none are listed and therefore i cannot see where that money was coming from which is a pity.

If they were shell companies for the english government it would make proving this so much easier but alas no bussiness were listed and therefore i can only maintain my own position on english support for the C.S.A supported by private english and government either being fine with it or turning a blind eye to it.

Honest i still believe they were in on it but i can find no proof that can support that claim and i still maintain that the English recognized the Confederacy as Legtimate but apparently it was mostly just their Merchants and sailors.

Ah well I still personally consider the Confederacy as a formerly independent series of States.

Britain under Gladstone.
And shell companies?
Makes some mighty fine alternative history.

[Hungry]

Yes, let them leave, Self-Determination, Self Governance, other crap I'm using to get Jesusville out of America and maybe get America into the 21st Century.

And surrender those who don't want to leave to reactionary parochial tyranny? No thanks.

Allow those who don't want to leave the Union to move and be fully compensated (by the seceding states, not us).

[Hungry]

Yes, let them leave, Self-Determination, Self Governance, other crap I'm using to get Jesusville out of America and maybe get America into the 21st Century.

No, not giving them the satisfaction.

/me thinks of excuse.


....

Compromise. A functioning democracy needs it to function.

[Ruridova]

And surrender those who don't want to leave to reactionary parochial tyranny? No thanks.

Allow those who don't want to leave the Union to move and be fully compensated (by the seceding states, not us).

Oh sure. I'd love to see my home state taken over 25,000 butthurt idiots so that I can leave everything I've ever known ever. Totally a great idea.

[Laerod]

And surrender those who don't want to leave to reactionary parochial tyranny? No thanks.

Allow those who don't want to leave the Union to move and be fully compensated (by the seceding states, not us).

If they're unwilling to obey a simple democratic election, what's to get them to accept due compensation?

[Norsklow]

Allow those who don't want to leave the Union to move and be fully compensated (by the seceding states, not us).

If they're unwilling to obey a simple democratic election, what's to get them to accept due compensation?

Only language they understand.

[The Zeonic States]

Private vessels crewed by English sailors, Carrying supplies for the Confederate States being paid by private interests which unforunately none are listed and therefore i cannot see where that money was coming from which is a pity.

If they were shell companies for the english government it would make proving this so much easier but alas no bussiness were listed and therefore i can only maintain my own position on english support for the C.S.A supported by private english and government either being fine with it or turning a blind eye to it.

Honest i still believe they were in on it but i can find no proof that can support that claim and i still maintain that the English recognized the Confederacy as Legtimate but apparently it was mostly just their Merchants and sailors.

Ah well I still personally consider the Confederacy as a formerly independent series of States.

Britain under Gladstone.
And shell companies?
Makes some mighty fine alternative history.

You make it sound like this has not occured a thousand times already in history.

When Open support is not possible Funds and Materials are funded through Companies acting upon Government instruction.

The only diffrence here due to Wiki's lack of detail there is no proof to support it but it is possible.

Heck The Americans used the same damn techique to support those isurgents back in the 70s, 80s and 90s

Having radio companies assembling missiles and transfering tens of thousands of USD into the hand's of folks fighting whatever government they didn't care for at the moment.

I could list off a few situations but honestly the way you said altenative history just made me shake my head, Iran-contra is a well known insistance of a shell corp giving aid to groups the government cannot offically support. I suppose if the english had gotten caught giving offical government aid to the C.S.A the result might have been the same.

[National Bohemia]

If they're unwilling to obey a simple democratic election, what's to get them to accept due compensation?

Only language they understand.

There's that imperial bloodlust shining through again. If only George III had nuclear weapons, he could've prevented the terrorists from forcing the Loyalists to live under their oppressive yoke.

[Norsklow]

Britain under Gladstone.
And shell companies?
Makes some mighty fine alternative history.

You make it sound like this has not occured a thousand times already in history.

When Open support is not possible Funds and Materials are funded through Companies acting upon Government instruction.

The only diffrence here due to Wiki's lack of detail there is no proof to support it but it is possible.

Heck The Americans used the same damn techique to support those isurgents back in the 70s, 80s and 90s

Having radio companies assembling missiles and transfering tens of thousands of USD into the hand's of folks fighting whatever government they didn't care for at the moment.

I could list off a few situations but honestly the way you said altenative history just made me shake my head, Iran-contra is a well known insistance of a shell corp giving aid to groups the government cannot offically support. I suppose if the english had gotten caught giving offical government aid to the C.S.A the result might have been the same.

Under Gladstone?

[Laerod]

Only language they understand.

There's that imperial bloodlust shining through again. If only George III had nuclear weapons, he could've prevented the terrorists from forcing the Loyalists to live under their oppressive yoke.

As if Parliament would have given him access to the launch codes.

[Srboslavija]

If they're unwilling to obey a simple democratic election, what's to get them to accept due compensation?

Only language they understand.

Can I have your permission to screenshot that reply and post it on the some of the Secession facebook pages?

[Laerod]

Only language they understand.

Can I have your permission to screenshot that reply and post it on the some of the Secession facebook pages?

You're a bit late for wanting to secede from the British.

[ALMF]

Yes!!!

Now it is the time to leave this unholy alliance of enemy's this i the time for me and my fellow right-wingers(fascist as they call us around where I am from) to Be free. I spit upon the flag of the union and am happy that it shall burn, It is time for separation, i am tired of working with these damn bleeding heart hippys and their ways if they want to have freaking communism and be like Sweden let them dont force us too. May Pluralism and all its crap die soon, Us evil "Fascist" will be happy to leave this horrible place and make are own land.

GIVE ME SEPARATION OR GIVE ME DEATH

Ill ready up the boys, its time for us to win a war.

Your perposle is acceptable: care to make one more condusive to your-own interests?