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Postby Tmutarakhan » Mon Nov 12, 2012 10:32 pm

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Zottistan wrote:We're going for the "world's longest acronym" record. Please, people, if you know of or are a member of a gender or sexuality-based community that is discriminated against, contact the LGBTQI community. We need your letters.


My favourite acronym so far is QUILTBAG (QUeer, Intersex, Lesbian, Trans, Bisexual, Asexual, Gay)

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Postby Threlizdun » Mon Nov 12, 2012 10:53 pm

Chronic Hypersomnia wrote:I generally hate being biologically male. If my S.O. wasn't around, i'm pretty sure I'd kill myself. I constantly contemplate suicide and probably going to be living in a shadow for the rest of my life...

:hug: I'm sure you'll acquire the means to become a beautiful woman before you know it. Besides, it's the person inside the body who is important, not the body itself. As a fellow trans-female myself, I wish you the best of luck at finding happiness and being able to enjoy life with a sex that properly matches your gender.
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Postby Chronic Hypersomnia » Mon Nov 12, 2012 11:07 pm

Threlizdun wrote: :hug: I'm sure you'll acquire the means to become a beautiful woman before you know it. Besides, it's the person inside the body who is important, not the body itself. As a fellow trans-female myself, I wish you the best of luck at finding happiness and being able to enjoy life with a sex that properly matches your gender.

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Terra Francia wrote: :hug: I wish you the best. Hopefully one day that shadow can be lifted, but until then stay strong. Your S.O needs you.

Page wrote:I'm glad you have someone who matters in your life, and I'm sure one day you'll be able to free yourself from your biology and be seen as the person you are. :hug:

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Postby CVT Temp » Tue Nov 13, 2012 10:54 am

Page wrote:"Lifestyle" is the wrong word, but there are lots of different gay subcultures all across the world. No one should be ashamed of it, the gay subculture is just as valid as any other.


Maybe I'm internalizing some homophobia, but I really don't like extreme promiscuity and I find camp to be ridiculous. Then again, I ironically know very little about gay culture other than media stereotypes.
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Postby Jormengand » Tue Nov 13, 2012 10:59 am

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Page wrote:"Lifestyle" is the wrong word, but there are lots of different gay subcultures all across the world. No one should be ashamed of it, the gay subculture is just as valid as any other.


Maybe I'm internalizing some homophobia, but I really don't like extreme promiscuity and I find camp to be ridiculous. Then again, I ironically know very little about gay culture other than media stereotypes.

I don't like "look at me, I'm gay" people any more than "look at me, I'm christian" people, so I'd say you're justified.
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Postby Rocopurr » Tue Nov 13, 2012 1:38 pm

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Rocopurr wrote:Bisexual female, it's an alright life. I haven't came out in real life yet. Anyone here have any advice on the subject?


What is your situation like?

Rocopurr wrote:
It's nice to know that y'all can relate. I don't exactly want to come out, but I feel like I'm tired of hiding and just sighing as my family makes homophobic comments.


I fully understand that feeling.


I'm a teenager in a Catholic family. My father is homophobic, but my mom isn't.
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Postby The Steel Magnolia » Tue Nov 13, 2012 1:39 pm

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Page wrote:"Lifestyle" is the wrong word, but there are lots of different gay subcultures all across the world. No one should be ashamed of it, the gay subculture is just as valid as any other.


Maybe I'm internalizing some homophobia, but I really don't like extreme promiscuity and I find camp to be ridiculous. Then again, I ironically know very little about gay culture other than media stereotypes.


Which is fine, since it's your personal opinion on subjective things. There are lots of things I find ridiculous, but so long as you support their ability to be what you perceive as ridiculous, then I don't think it's a problem at all.

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Postby CVT Temp » Tue Nov 13, 2012 1:41 pm

The Steel Magnolia wrote:Which is fine, since it's your personal opinion on subjective things. There are lots of things I find ridiculous, but so long as you support their ability to be what you perceive as ridiculous, then I don't think it's a problem at all.


I'm saying that I don't like the culture I'm supposed to be a part of by virtue of being gay.
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Postby Dumb Ideologies » Tue Nov 13, 2012 1:47 pm

Chronic Hypersomnia wrote:I generally hate being biologically male. If my S.O. wasn't around, i'm pretty sure I'd kill myself. I constantly contemplate suicide and probably going to be living in a shadow for the rest of my life...


This is why we shall transform this world into a shadow realm where light is but a distant dream of your oppressed, boot-licking masses.
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Postby Chronic Hypersomnia » Tue Nov 13, 2012 3:22 pm

Dumb Ideologies wrote:
Chronic Hypersomnia wrote:I generally hate being biologically male. If my S.O. wasn't around, i'm pretty sure I'd kill myself. I constantly contemplate suicide and probably going to be living in a shadow for the rest of my life...


This is why we shall transform this world into a shadow realm where light is but a distant dream of your oppressed, boot-licking masses.

Let's make this happen.
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Postby Saiwania » Tue Nov 13, 2012 3:50 pm

Grenartia wrote:Not any more of a mental illness than ADHD or Clinical depression. I.E., they're classified as disorders by the psychological community, but they are in no way inherently a sign that the person in question needs to be locked up in a padded room with a straitjacket.


Agreed. I just can't compel myself to believe that a transsexual isn't still the sex that they were born as. I view a sex change operation as only cosmetic, on the inside they remain male or female. It may be cruel or heartless on my part, but that is the harsh reality of how I view it. Just like how you can't change your ethnic background, you can't change biological sex either. It is permanent from birth.
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Postby Takaram » Tue Nov 13, 2012 3:55 pm

Saiwania wrote:
Grenartia wrote:Not any more of a mental illness than ADHD or Clinical depression. I.E., they're classified as disorders by the psychological community, but they are in no way inherently a sign that the person in question needs to be locked up in a padded room with a straitjacket.


Agreed. I just can't compel myself to believe that a transsexual isn't still the sex that they were born as. I view a sex change as only cosmetic, on the inside they remain male or female. It may be cruel or heartless on my part, but that is the harsh reality of how I view it. Just like how you can't change your ethnic background, you can't change biological sex either. It is permanent from birth.


Sex is merely a phenotypic expression based on the presence or absence of an SRY gene. What you feel like inside is gender.

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Postby Oneracon » Tue Nov 13, 2012 3:59 pm

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The Steel Magnolia wrote:Which is fine, since it's your personal opinion on subjective things. There are lots of things I find ridiculous, but so long as you support their ability to be what you perceive as ridiculous, then I don't think it's a problem at all.


I'm saying that I don't like the culture I'm supposed to be a part of by virtue of being gay.


Well the "culture" you're perceived to be a part of is in part a creation of heterosexuals as a way to pigeonhole all non-heteros *shrug*
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Postby The Steel Magnolia » Tue Nov 13, 2012 4:32 pm

Saiwania wrote:
Grenartia wrote:Not any more of a mental illness than ADHD or Clinical depression. I.E., they're classified as disorders by the psychological community, but they are in no way inherently a sign that the person in question needs to be locked up in a padded room with a straitjacket.


Agreed. I just can't compel myself to believe that a transsexual isn't still the sex that they were born as. I view a sex change operation as only cosmetic, on the inside they remain male or female. It may be cruel or heartless on my part, but that is the harsh reality of how I view it. Just like how you can't change your ethnic background, you can't change biological sex either. It is permanent from birth.


Except you'd be a) wrong, and b), your understanding Is not required. All we want Is acceptance and acknowledgment.

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Postby Ornaki » Tue Nov 13, 2012 6:46 pm

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Erucia wrote:You know, the one thing I've never understood is when people talk about "The Gay Lifestyle." Maybe I'm just in the dark, but what the heck is the Gay Lifestyle?

A stereotype.

I guess to elaborate, some straight people tend to think gay people hang around together and do gay things.


...Gay things relative to what exactly? What people perceive as "normal"? How is a man liking to shop gay or a girl chopping off all her hair and playing sports lesbian? I think people really need to explore their values and stereotypes of what each gender "should" be.

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Postby Page » Tue Nov 13, 2012 7:28 pm

I have no idea why people say "I just don't want to recognize you might be different than your sex assignment at birth." If someone tells me they're a woman, I take their word for it. If someone tells me they're a man, I take their word for it. If someone tells me they're non-binary, I take their word for it. I don't say "ah, but unzip your pants so I can confirm", I don't say "but but but chromosomes", why the fuck would someone conceivably care?

Just refer to people according to their preferences, it's not asking a lot, it's asking basically nothing.
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Postby Oneracon » Tue Nov 13, 2012 7:35 pm

Ornaki wrote:
Vitaphone Racing wrote:A stereotype.

I guess to elaborate, some straight people tend to think gay people hang around together and do gay things.


...Gay things relative to what exactly? What people perceive as "normal"? How is a man liking to shop gay or a girl chopping off all her hair and playing sports lesbian? I think people really need to explore their values and stereotypes of what each gender "should" be.


Hence why I don't care what other people think. I just act whichever way I want :p
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Postby Vitaphone Racing » Tue Nov 13, 2012 7:41 pm

Ornaki wrote:
Vitaphone Racing wrote:A stereotype.

I guess to elaborate, some straight people tend to think gay people hang around together and do gay things.


...Gay things relative to what exactly? What people perceive as "normal"? How is a man liking to shop gay or a girl chopping off all her hair and playing sports lesbian? I think people really need to explore their values and stereotypes of what each gender "should" be.

I think you really missed the point of what I was trying to say.
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Postby Blouman Empire » Tue Nov 13, 2012 9:45 pm

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The Steel Magnolia wrote:Which is fine, since it's your personal opinion on subjective things. There are lots of things I find ridiculous, but so long as you support their ability to be what you perceive as ridiculous, then I don't think it's a problem at all.


I'm saying that I don't like the culture I'm supposed to be a part of by virtue of being gay.


I'm with you this expectation that you must be a certain way or like certain things is offensive when it is expected of you be gay and non gay people alike. Unfortuantly you see a number of homosexuals thinking they have to act like to show they are gay and has given rise to the offensive 'straight-acting' term.
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Postby Nanatsu no Tsuki » Tue Nov 13, 2012 10:06 pm

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Postby Zweite Alaje » Tue Nov 13, 2012 10:13 pm

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Page wrote:"Lifestyle" is the wrong word, but there are lots of different gay subcultures all across the world. No one should be ashamed of it, the gay subculture is just as valid as any other.


Maybe I'm internalizing some homophobia, but I really don't like extreme promiscuity and I find camp to be ridiculous. Then again, I ironically know very little about gay culture other than media stereotypes.


I have several homosexual and bi friends and one transgendered friend (yes, I have LBGT friends) so I'm used to them and I'd say there is no "gay lifestyle" so to speak, but there is a subculture. They have some of their own slang that's about it.
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Postby Liriena » Tue Nov 13, 2012 10:19 pm

Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:Bisexual female. My mom knows it, so does my step-dad and my close friends. Idem my husband. My in-laws don't, and I will have to keep it that way because they won't accept me that way. They're ultra religious. And my maternal grandmother, due to her mental condition, forgot about it.


All members of my family (aside from my dad, who already knows) will learn about my bi/pansexuality the same day I send them their invitations to my wedding with a cute emo guy (or an Australian male model, whatever comes first). :3
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Postby Nanatsu no Tsuki » Tue Nov 13, 2012 10:21 pm

Liriena wrote:
Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:Bisexual female. My mom knows it, so does my step-dad and my close friends. Idem my husband. My in-laws don't, and I will have to keep it that way because they won't accept me that way. They're ultra religious. And my maternal grandmother, due to her mental condition, forgot about it.


All members of my family (aside from my dad, who already knows) will learn about my bi/pansexuality the same day I send them their invitations to my wedding with a cute emo guy (or a certain Australian model, whatever comes first). :3


Hey, whatever works best for you, I always say. I just chose to do it quite early (I was a sophomore in college). There was no point in hiding it. My mom has always been very understanding and some of her greatest friends are part of the LGBT and addenda community. :)
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Postby CVT Temp » Tue Nov 13, 2012 10:26 pm

Zweite Alaje wrote:I have several homosexual and bi friends and one transgendered friend (yes, I have LBGT friends) so I'm used to them and I'd say there is no "gay lifestyle" so to speak, but there is a subculture. They have some of their own slang that's about it.


I'm gay, but I don't really know anything about what it means except for the obvious. Well, I also know that it makes baby Jesus cry, but seeing as how I'm not a Christian, this doesn't bother me. What does bother me is the fact that godbags hate on me because of it.

As far as "gay culture" goes, I'm clueless. I'm pretty much straight gay save for the fact that I don't like sports and I'm not into "macho" things like hunting, cars, etc.. I'm more like a heterosexual nerd who happens to be gay.
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