Should Canada merge with the USA?

[Napkiraly]

Please define mutual interests. The people would want to know.

1)They get liberated from the British Monarchy. 2)They get to be part of the most powerful nation on Earth.
3)Instead of voting for some bootleg Prime Minister of a minor power they get to vote for the President of the United States of America, the most powerful person on the planet.

1) Most Canadians wouldn't want the US system. Stop "liberating" people when they don't need it. America's version/image of democracy isn't the only one, you know.
2) No thanks.
3) Canada is a middle power and a energy superpower. You don't know much about Canada, do you?

[Greater Nilfgaard]

The real title for this thread should be "Manifest Destiny: Yay or Nay?", because that's what it really boils down to

It's not really the same as manifest destiny. That doctrine had religious and racial undertones. Mine has neither.

[Napkiraly]

1) America's image would be irreversibly damaged, however.
2) No we don't actually. Metric system, grammar is 50/50 between British and yours, humour is closer to Britain's (usually), etc. Also, I hope you realise a lot of Canadians would resist an American occupation.

And a lot of Americans would find the concept of annexing Canada amazingly stupid.

It is known.

[Greater Nilfgaard]

And a lot of Americans would find the concept of annexing Canada amazingly stupid.

It is known.

USA is number 1

Me nem nesa

[Ruridova]

They get liberated

I can't exactly see why Canada needs to be "liberated". Also, we tend to piss people off worldwide when we go off to "liberate" people who quite frequently don't want to be liberated.

[Ruridova]

It is known.

USA is number 1

Me nem nesa

I highly doubt that there is any single number one nation, and as an American, I'd say that, if there is one, it's not us.

[Napkiraly]

It is known.

USA is number 1

Me nem nesa

For how much longer? Also, just because you're number 1 doesn't mean Canadians want to be apart of the USA. We do a lot of things better than you guys. Health care, as an example.

[Oneracon]

It is known.

USA is number 1

Me nem nesa

In what?

Handgun fatalities?

[Greater Nilfgaard]

They get liberated

I can't exactly see why Canada needs to be "liberated". Also, we tend to piss people off worldwide when we go off to "liberate" people who quite frequently don't want to be liberated.

I think most Iraqis were glad to be rid of Saddam Hussien. The sectarian bloodletting that happened after wasn't perpetrated by the USA. We were trying to prevent it.

[Ruridova]

2)They get to be part of the most powerful nation on Earth.

That is so imperialistic it is painful.

[Napkiraly]

USA is number 1

Me nem nesa

In what?

Handgun fatalities?

International pull.
GDP size (until 2016)
Military power.

Just a few examples.

[Thurask]

USA is number 1

Me nem nesa

In what?

Handgun fatalities?

Cousin marriages?

[Greater Nilfgaard]

USA is number 1

Me nem nesa

In what?

Handgun fatalities?

I think that award goes to Mexico. Or maybe Syria..... Or Iraq

Not America tho, or Canada.


USA is number 1 economic and political power.

[Napkiraly]

I can't exactly see why Canada needs to be "liberated". Also, we tend to piss people off worldwide when we go off to "liberate" people who quite frequently don't want to be liberated.

1)I think most Iraqis were glad to be rid of Saddam Hussien. 2)The sectarian bloodletting that happened after wasn't perpetrated by the USA. We were trying to prevent it.

1) Prove it.
2) No, but the invasion allowed it to happen.

[Yankee Empire]

2)They get to be part of the most powerful nation on Earth.

That is so imperialistic it is painful.

Yeah because their commonwealth with Britian has no imperialistic backround...wait.

[Ruridova]

I can't exactly see why Canada needs to be "liberated". Also, we tend to piss people off worldwide when we go off to "liberate" people who quite frequently don't want to be liberated.

I think most Iraqis were glad to be rid of Saddam Hussien. The sectarian bloodletting that happened after wasn't perpetrated by the USA. We were trying to prevent it.

"Baghdad is a huge camp, man. America didn't bring democracy. It brought walls.
- Yousif al-Timimi, quoted by Brian Turner in the National Geographic Article Baghdad After The Storm, published in the July 2011 NatGeo issue.
"Says one Baghdad resident: "People wish we were still under Saddam. At least we knew what to expect"."
- Brain Turner, quoting an anonymous Iraqi, same article, same issue.

[Napkiraly]

In what?

Handgun fatalities?

I think that award goes to Mexico. Or maybe Syria..... Or Iraq

Not America tho, or Canada.


USA is number 1 (a)economic and (b)political power.

a) Which will end in about 4 years
b) Which may or may not wane over the century.

[Napkiraly]

That is so imperialistic it is painful.

Yeah because their commonwealth with Britian has no imperialistic backround...wait.

Imperialistic background is different from actually being imperialistic. Plus, members can leave if they want.

[Ruridova]

That is so imperialistic it is painful.

Yeah because their commonwealth with Britian has no imperialistic backround...wait.

?

What I was addressing is that, during the imperial era, that kind of thing was used to justify imperialism: we were introducing them into our best of nations to civilize them, or whatever.

[Oneracon]

That is so imperialistic it is painful.

Yeah because their commonwealth with Britian has no imperialistic backround...wait.

Except that Canada is in no way bound to obey British law, and the Commonwealth of Nations is a voluntary organisation that nations are free to leave at any time.

[Greater Nilfgaard]

1)I think most Iraqis were glad to be rid of Saddam Hussien. 2)The sectarian bloodletting that happened after wasn't perpetrated by the USA. We were trying to prevent it.

1) Prove it.
2) No, but the invasion allowed it to happen.

1) Look how happy they are
2) Some say the Arab Spring could've caused sectarian bloodshed in Iraq if Hussien was still in power. After all thats what happened in Syria.

[Ruridova]

1) Look how happy they are

"Says one Baghdad resident: "People wish we were still under Saddam. At least we knew what to expect"."
- anonymous Baghdad resident, quoted by Brian Turner in the National Geographic Article Baghdad After The Storm, published in the July 2011 NatGeo issue.

[Napkiraly]

1) Prove it.
2) No, but the invasion allowed it to happen.

1) Look how happy they are
2) Some say the Arab Spring could've caused sectarian bloodshed in Iraq if Hussien was still in power. After all thats what happened in Syria.

1)I mean like a survey. A recent one at that, not one from 2003.
2) And thousands of Americans and allied troops wouldn't have died, with tens of thousands wounded and suffering from PTSD.

[Post War America]

Yeah... no... just... no.

[Greater Nilfgaard]

1) Look how happy they are

"Says one Baghdad resident: "People wish we were still under Saddam. At least we knew what to expect"."
- anonymous Baghdad resident, quoted by Brian Turner in the National Geographic Article Baghdad After The Storm, published in the July 2011 NatGeo issue.

Thats one guy. These are whole crowds of people

Crowds > One guy