Should Canada merge with the USA?

[Oneracon]

GDP
Military Projection
Global Influence
The fact that the UN headquarters is in our largest city

The Earth revolves around the USA. Figuratively speaking.

GDP: National GDP is meaningless, GDP per capita is the more accurate measure. You'll see that the US ranks a lot lower than number 1.

Military Projection: Bravo, you're imperialists. You've become the exact people the Founding Fathers were fighting against in the War of Independence.

Global Influence: See above.

UN Headquarters: That site was only selected because Rockefeller donated the money to buy the land.

[Greater Nilfgaard]

GDP means nothing to the average citizen? Are you serious?

If instead of 15 Trillion, the USA had a GDP of 5 dollars do you really think that wouldn't have any impact on the lives of Americans?

No, GDP means nothing. Average wages, standards of living, cost of living. Even GDP per capita is a better measurement.

And what would the GDP per capita be if we had 5 dollars for 310 million people?

GDP matters, dude. It isn't the only thing that matters. But is important, just like the other things I listed.

[Baiynistan]

No, cos universal health care is awesome.

[Wolfmanne]

No, GDP means nothing. Average wages, standards of living, cost of living. Even GDP per capita is a better measurement.

And what would the GDP per capita be if we had 5 dollars for 310 million people?

GDP matters, dude. It isn't the only thing that matters. But is important, just like the other things I listed.

It also tends to be a measure of how people are, GDP per capita is a rough guide of how much money people would have if everyone was equal (even then it comes pretty close in our unequal societies). The ultimate goal of countries should be to make their people happy. I can safely say that Monaco, Luxermbourg and Switzerland are pretty kick-arse at that.

[Divair]

No, GDP means nothing. Average wages, standards of living, cost of living. Even GDP per capita is a better measurement.

And what would the GDP per capita be if we had 5 dollars for 310 million people?

GDP matters, dude. It isn't the only thing that matters. But is important, just like the other things I listed.

GDP, when comparing countries, is irrelevant. Saying the USA is the best because it has the largest GDP is a fallacy.

[The Zeonic States]

A quarter of Chicago and new york speak German and French ._. It has yet to change but it also has not interfered greatly with them living among other language speakers.

Heck there is a fellow down just four blocks from that speaks russian, Language would not be a massive barrier.

Of course there might be issues if they also don't understand or speak english...But cross that bridge when it comes to it.

You clearly don't understand the situation in Quebec. They refuse to learn English. It is illegal to post a sign in English unless the French part is larger. It took a constitutional provision protecting their right not to speak English just to keep them from seceding.

Yeah it actually sounds like they would benifit from a uniform culture now ._.

Because that sounds sort of insane to me.

Heck in my home country we post signs in half a dozen languages because we are not arrogant enough to assume that every one speaks our tongue.

[Saint-Tropez]

As a Quebecois I would rather be a part of France, than America. I would want no part of America, our language would be majorly threatened.

[Inyourfaceistan]

Not for long. Our pitiful excuse of a president wants to reduce our nuclear stockpile... And scrap the F-22... And stop building our railgun battleship...

Oh for God's sake, don't start that argument on this thread. Could easily become threadjacking.

Well I was explaining to him we aren't the ass-kicking machine we should be (in a utopian world where politics didnt mean shit in war) and that he can't count that we should have the ability to destroy the world ten times over as why we are a major world power...

Then I went ADHD off on a tangent...

[Thurask]

The fact that the UN headquarters is in our largest city

Aren't there quite a few Americans who think that's actually a bad thing?

[Dimar]

I really really really hope you're not being serious... people like you are the reason why I dislike Americans (in politics only, though). How would you have liked it if the USA became a part of Canada instead, and you would vote for Parliament (with the semi-socialist NDP etcetera). Again, how would you've liked that? No offense but this just seems like a childish/innocent form of imperialism. <sorry if I sound mad though, because I'm not, I just think it's really really stupid

[Charellia]

GDP
Military Projection
Global Influence
The fact that the UN headquarters is in our largest city

The Earth revolves around the USA. Figuratively speaking.

GDP: National GDP is meaningless, GDP per capita is the more accurate measure. You'll see that the US ranks a lot lower than number 1.

Military Projection: Bravo, you're imperialists. You've become the exact people the Founding Fathers were fighting against in the War of Independence.

Global Influence: See above.

UN Headquarters: That site was only selected because Rockefeller donated the money to buy the land.

The most important measure of a nations success in my opinion is its HDI ranking on which America is behind both Canada and most of Europe.

[Calmerica]

Ok so here's a thought. The USA and Canada share one of the longest borders in the world. They are also very close trading partners and are culturally quite similar (except for Canadian thanksgiving being too early and them pronouncing certain words wrong, but these are quite minor). Compared to US-Mexican Relations which is compounded by issues like the Drug War and Immigration, US-Canadian relations have been very smooth for generations.

So here is my proposal. Canada and the USA should officially merge. Canada can be divided into like 5-6 new American states.
Here's my idea
Partition Plan

So what does NS think?
I think this would benefit the USA because it would give us all of Canada's significant natural resources. Also with global warming the area may become prime farmland. It would be good for Canadians too, because they would finally be US citizens and could vote for the President and join Congress.

No god so much no. Fail for so many reasons.

[Ruridova]

The fact that the UN headquarters is in our largest city

Aren't there quite a few Americans who think that's actually a bad thing?

Sadly yes.

I really really really hope you're not being serious... people like you are the reason why I dislike Americans (in politics only, though). How would you have liked it if the USA became a part of Canada instead, and you would vote for Parliament (with the semi-socialist NDP etcetera). Again, how would you've liked that? No offense but this just seems like a childish/innocent form of imperialism. <sorry if I sound mad though, because I'm not, I just think it's really really stupid

The concepts of the US getting Canada or Canada getting the US are both stupid.

[Greater Nilfgaard]

Another convert!
Hell yes, we are growing

Two versus dozens.

No.

Three, if you include that other guy from awhile ago. Also I'm not expecting to convince everyone on a liberal forum like NS. But over time this idea will grow, like a flower. And one day it may become a reality.

I am simply planting the seeds. Like every great ideologue and statesman did before me, one must start with the seeds and then move on the greater things. Like Canada.

[Divair]

Two versus dozens.

No.

Three, if you include that other guy from awhile ago. Also I'm not expecting to convince everyone on a liberal forum like NS. But over time this idea will grow, like a flower. And one day it may become a reality.

I am simply planting the seeds. Like every great ideologue and statesman did before me, one must start with the seeds and then move on the greater things. Like Canada.

No.

[The Zeonic States]

Until Another Nation decides to claim it anyway.

Maybe the French will want their colony back someday Good luck fighting those guys off.

The Quebekers begged France to take them a few years ago. The French turned them down

That's oddly sad to me

[Wolfmanne]

Also, quick question Canadians: would you rather be part of Britain then America (French Canadians can opt for France )?

[Nightkill the Emperor]

Two versus dozens.

No.

Three, if you include that other guy from awhile ago. Also I'm not expecting to convince everyone on a liberal forum like NS. But over time this idea will grow, like a flower. And one day it may become a reality.

I am simply planting the seeds. Like every great ideologue and statesman did before me, one must start with the seeds and then move on the greater things. Like Canada.

You are one of the greatest satirists of all time.

[Divair]

Also, quick question Canadians: would you rather be part of Britain then America (French Canadians can opt for France )?

As a future Canadian, yes.

[Thurask]

Also, quick question Canadians: would you rather be part of Britain then America (French Canadians can opt for France )?

If I had to pick one, the UK.

[Saruhan]

Also, quick question Canadians: would you rather be part of Britain then America (French Canadians can opt for France )?

Yes, but then i'm an imperial Restorationist so it would be weird for me to say no

[Charellia]

You clearly don't understand the situation in Quebec. They refuse to learn English. It is illegal to post a sign in English unless the French part is larger. It took a constitutional provision protecting their right not to speak English just to keep them from seceding.

Yeah it actually sounds like they would benifit from a uniform culture now ._.

Because that sounds sort of insane to me.

Heck in my home country we post signs in half a dozen languages because we are not arrogant enough to assume that every one speaks our tongue.

Attempts to impose a uniform culture in Canada have been going on since the 1700s. So far Quebec has ensured none were successful.

[Zathganastan]

Two versus dozens.

No.

Three, if you include that other guy from awhile ago. Also I'm not expecting to convince everyone on a liberal forum like NS. But over time this idea will grow, like a flower. And one day it may become a reality.

I am simply planting the seeds. Like every great ideologue and statesman did before me, one must start with the seeds and then move on the greater things. Like Canada.

Ok I've spent most of my life under the governorship of Rick Perry and this without a doubt is the most idiotic thing I have ever heard.

[ImperialistSalvia]

So here is my proposal. Canada and the USA should officially merge. Canada can be divided into like 5-6 new American states.
Here's my idea
Partition Plan

Those borders look like they were drawn by a three-year-old. But no, Canada should not merge with the U.S.

[Ruridova]

Two versus dozens.

No.

Three, if you include that other guy from awhile ago. Also I'm not expecting to convince everyone on a liberal forum like NS. But over time this idea will grow, like a flower. And one day it may become a reality.

I am simply planting the seeds. Like every great ideologue and statesman did before me, one must start with the seeds and then move on the greater things. Like Canada.

Your statements are so patently ridiculous.