Should Canada merge with the USA?

[Greater Nilfgaard]

America needs to be combating the stereotype that we're all psychotic imperialists. Taking control of Canada would help that stereotype so much.

Quite. Even the UK to a degree is going less and less Imperialsit. America you need to wake up and see the truth!

I don't just see the truth. I speak it.

[The walkers]

Perhaps. But this is irrelevent because I could just as easily say that in such a hypothetical world the US has a higher population than China. As I've said many times, I'm a realist and thus prefer to focus on the world as it actually is.

Then why can you not understand that Canada neither benefits from joining the United States nor do they achieve anything other then becoming a colony to a larger nation.

Because unity is such a nice word. It just rolls off the tongue perfectly, so, we would like to say that everyone is united! imagine the United States of Americas!


Oh and I am against unification, that just seems to be the only reason people have for wanting unity though, oh and because at the end of Disney movies everyone is always united as well.

[Divair]

Quite. Even the UK to a degree is going less and less Imperialsit. America you need to wake up and see the truth!

I don't just see the truth. I speak it.

No.

[The Joseon Dynasty]

No, we're discussing your commitment to a principle you've used to justify your beliefs. We're not just tossing around random hypotheticals. So, what would your answer be in this scenario?

I'm trying to gauge whether this is a consistent belief, or whether you are just trying to legitimise a blatant act of imperialism.

Ok fine. I'll play ball.

Yes, if that was the case, it would be justified. But it isn't because in RL America is the greatest nation on Earth.

So, in other words, America is so awesome and fantastic that your interpretation of utilitarianism would only ever apply to other countries being absorbed by the United States. Got it.

[Inyourfaceistan]

By what measure?

Ability to destroy the Earth many times over.

Not for long. Our pitiful excuse of a president wants to reduce our nuclear stockpile... And scrap the F-22... And stop building our railgun battleship...

[Ublia]

By what measure?

GDP
Military Projection
Global Influence
The fact that the UN headquarters is in our largest city

The Earth revolves around the USA. Figuratively speaking.[/quote


By my calacualtions and those of Moscow the real answer is NO.

[Ublia]

Quite. Even the UK to a degree is going less and less Imperialsit. America you need to wake up and see the truth!

I don't just see the truth. I speak it.

You are completely insane. Are you the product of some Republican/CIA brainwashing facility or something far worse.......

[Greater Nilfgaard]

GDP
Military Projection
Global Influence
The fact that the UN headquarters is in our largest city

The Earth revolves around the USA. Figuratively speaking.

Which means nothing to the average citizen.

Nice try, though.

GDP means nothing to the average citizen? Are you serious?

If instead of 15 Trillion, the USA had a GDP of 5 dollars do you really think that wouldn't have any impact on the lives of Americans?

[The Joseon Dynasty]

Lol, this is one of the fastest growing threads I've seen on NS.

It's because it's so easy to be right here. The OP is so inexorably wrong, making a counter-argument takes a matter of seconds, and you can still feel really smart afterwards.

[Divair]

Which means nothing to the average citizen.

Nice try, though.

GDP means nothing to the average citizen? Are you serious?

If instead of 15 Trillion, the USA had a GDP of 5 dollars do you really think that wouldn't have any impact on the lives of Americans?

No, GDP means nothing. Average wages, standards of living, cost of living. Even GDP per capita is a better measurement.

[Ruridova]

Quite. Even the UK to a degree is going less and less Imperialsit. America you need to wake up and see the truth!

I don't just see the truth. I speak it.

[Saruhan]

By what measure?

GDP
Military Projection
Global Influence
The fact that the UN headquarters is in our largest city

The Earth revolves around the USA. Figuratively speaking.

GDp by itself means nothing for citizens, try again with GDP per Capita
You had a hard time fight Iraq, not exactly braggart worthy
I would argue China, Spain, and France have more influence then the US
only because Geneva is overcrowded

[Ruridova]

Ability to destroy the Earth many times over.

Not for long. Our pitiful excuse of a president wants to reduce our nuclear stockpile... And scrap the F-22... And stop building our railgun battleship...

Oh for God's sake, don't start that argument on this thread. Could easily become threadjacking.

[Osaea]

Ability to destroy the Earth many times over.

Not for long. Our pitiful excuse of a president wants to reduce our nuclear stockpile... And scrap the F-22... And stop building our railgun battleship...

Don't forget the moon base. Though given the United States accounts for more than 40% of the world's military expenditures by itself, if you can't afford a moon base on that, maybe you should just call it quits.

[Greater Nilfgaard]

yeah why not. i think it'd be chill.

Another convert!
Hell yes, we are growing

[Charellia]

GDP means nothing to the average citizen? Are you serious?

If instead of 15 Trillion, the USA had a GDP of 5 dollars do you really think that wouldn't have any impact on the lives of Americans?

No, GDP means nothing. Average wages, standards of living, cost of living. Even GDP per capita is a better measurement.

Hear, Hear

[New Sapienta]

I don't even want to think about the shitstorm this thread might have caused.

[Divair]

yeah why not. i think it'd be chill.

Another convert!
Hell yes, we are growing

Two versus dozens.

No.

[Meritocratic States]

Care to put up a poll? I would love to vote "no".

[Divair]

Not for long. Our pitiful excuse of a president wants to reduce our nuclear stockpile... And scrap the F-22... And stop building our railgun battleship...

Don't forget the moon base. Though given the United States accounts for more than 40% of the world's military expenditures by itself, if you can't afford a moon base on that, maybe you should just call it quits.

If only a bunch of that military money got diverted to NASA.

[Zathganastan]

yeah why not. i think it'd be chill.

Another convert!
Hell yes, we are growing

Which brings your fallowing to 3 people were as the opposition represents a majority of both countries populations.

[Wolfmanne]

Not for long. Our pitiful excuse of a president wants to reduce our nuclear stockpile... And scrap the F-22... And stop building our railgun battleship...

Oh for God's sake, don't start that argument on this thread. Could easily become threadjacking.

I'll start a thread about Barrack Obama weakening the US' power. Eventhough I'm British.

[San-Silvacian]

Ability to destroy the Earth many times over.

Not for long. Our pitiful excuse of a president wants to reduce our nuclear stockpile... And scrap the F-22... And stop building our railgun battleship...

F-22 is good as it is. We have 200~ of them and thats enough.

Nuclear stockpile should be reduced. True story.

Railguns aren't currently applicable.

[Saruhan]

Another convert!
Hell yes, we are growing

Which brings your fallowing to 3 people were as the opposition represents a majority of both countries populations.

Every single one of them living far away from the inevitable war

[Dongolia]

Does this mean the USA would finally get universal healthcare? And become part of the commonwealth? And start say aboot?????

Also that arbitrary redrawing of state lines was Gold! GOLD I say!!!!