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Greater Nilfgaard
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Postby Greater Nilfgaard » Sun Nov 11, 2012 3:45 pm

Inyourfaceistan wrote:
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No we wont. The whole reason behind this plan is that Americans and Canadians are so similar and thus should be one country. And this would be beneficial to the majority of this "NEW" America, because we now have access to all those neat resources that used to belong to just Canada but now belong to all of us.


I'm doing the whole continent a favor with this plan.


You think we are similar? :eek:
And what country do you live in?


USA :D
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Postby Ublia » Sun Nov 11, 2012 3:45 pm

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So sorry I spazed. But you are one sick Imperialist bastard Greater Nilfgaard. We are Canadian and we shall forever be Canadian! Long live the Queen (i cannot believe I just saud that please forgive me my fellow Socialists)
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Postby The Joseon Dynasty » Sun Nov 11, 2012 3:45 pm

Greater Nilfgaard wrote:
The Joseon Dynasty wrote:
Okay... Hypothetically, if China were a bastion of human rights and democracy, should America then be absorbed by China on this principle of utilitarianism?


Perhaps. But this is irrelevent because I could just as easily say that in such a hypothetical world the US has a higher population than China. As I've said many times, I'm a realist and thus prefer to focus on the world as it actually is.


No, we're discussing your commitment to a principle you've used to justify your beliefs. We're not just tossing around random hypotheticals. So, what would your answer be in this scenario?

I'm trying to gauge whether this is a consistent belief, or whether you are just trying to legitimise a blatant act of imperialism.
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Postby Saruhan » Sun Nov 11, 2012 3:45 pm

Greater Nilfgaard wrote:
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What always baffles me about these annexation plans is why they never call for all of the provinces to just be let in as individual states - they'd all qualify on the basis of population in their own right, even PEI.

Instead there's always an attempt to come up with some zany plan that pays absolutely no attention to actual Canadian geography, politics, or tradition.


I paid attention to Canadian geography. Just renamed a few things to reflect a change in political reality.
EX: British Columbia becomes American Columbia.

Also we shall rename Prince Edward Island to George Washington Island. Or as a compromise: Abraham Lincoln Island.

Then why does Quebec have control over Newfoundland? And why is Labrador a State when it was always part of something else? And why change PEI's name?
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Postby Inyourfaceistan » Sun Nov 11, 2012 3:45 pm

Greater Nilfgaard wrote:
The Archregimancy wrote:
What always baffles me about these annexation plans is why they never call for all of the provinces to just be let in as individual states - they'd all qualify on the basis of population in their own right, even PEI.

Instead there's always an attempt to come up with some zany plan that pays absolutely no attention to actual Canadian geography, politics, or tradition.


I paid attention to Canadian geography. Just renamed a few things to reflect a change in political reality.
EX: British Columbia becomes American Columbia.

Also we shall rename Prince Edward Island to George Washington Island. Or as a compromise: Abraham Lincoln Island.


That would be funny though...


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Postby Divair » Sun Nov 11, 2012 3:46 pm

Maybe we should just keep repeating 'no' and one day OP will get it into his head.

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Postby Delanshar » Sun Nov 11, 2012 3:46 pm

Greater Nilfgaard wrote:
The Archregimancy wrote:
What always baffles me about these annexation plans is why they never call for all of the provinces to just be let in as individual states - they'd all qualify on the basis of population in their own right, even PEI.

Instead there's always an attempt to come up with some zany plan that pays absolutely no attention to actual Canadian geography, politics, or tradition.


I paid attention to Canadian geography. Just renamed a few things to reflect a change in political reality.
EX: British Columbia becomes American Columbia.

Also we shall rename Prince Edward Island to George Washington Island. Or as a compromise: Abraham Lincoln Island.


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You CANT be serious. You remind me of Stephen Colbert if he actually meant what he said.
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Postby Charellia » Sun Nov 11, 2012 3:47 pm

Greater Nilfgaard wrote:
The Archregimancy wrote:
What always baffles me about these annexation plans is why they never call for all of the provinces to just be let in as individual states - they'd all qualify on the basis of population in their own right, even PEI.

Instead there's always an attempt to come up with some zany plan that pays absolutely no attention to actual Canadian geography, politics, or tradition.


I paid attention to Canadian geography. Just renamed a few things to reflect a change in political reality.
EX: British Columbia becomes American Columbia.

Also we shall rename Prince Edward Island to George Washington Island. Or as a compromise: Abraham Lincoln Island.

You are ignoring the fact that your map lumps together cultures that don't get along. English and French Canadians have a hard enough time sharing a nation. Forcing them to share a state as well would be a disaster. Also no Canadian would ever accept our provinces being renamed to be more American.

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Postby Inyourfaceistan » Sun Nov 11, 2012 3:47 pm

Greater Nilfgaard wrote:
Inyourfaceistan wrote:
You think we are similar? :eek:
And what country do you live in?


USA :D


Yah, I live in the US and I must disagree, to a point.

US and Canada are not alike.


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Postby Ublia » Sun Nov 11, 2012 3:47 pm

Divair wrote:Maybe we should just keep repeating 'no' and one day OP will get it into his head.


Or we could admit him or her to the psyche ward in Texas i hear they still use leechs and bleedings to solve illneseses or an excorsism.
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Postby Ruridova » Sun Nov 11, 2012 3:47 pm

Ublia wrote:
Ruridova wrote:Calm thyself, Padawan. Hate leads to... suffering.


So sorry I spazed. But you are one sick Imperialist bastard Greater Nilfgaard. We are Canadian and we shall forever be Canadian! Long live the Queen (i cannot believe I just saud that please forgive me my fellow Socialists)

America needs to be combating the stereotype that we're all psychotic imperialists. Taking control of Canada would help that stereotype so much.
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Postby Greater Nilfgaard » Sun Nov 11, 2012 3:48 pm

The Joseon Dynasty wrote:
Greater Nilfgaard wrote:
Perhaps. But this is irrelevent because I could just as easily say that in such a hypothetical world the US has a higher population than China. As I've said many times, I'm a realist and thus prefer to focus on the world as it actually is.


No, we're discussing your commitment to a principle you've used to justify your beliefs. We're not just tossing around random hypotheticals. So, what would your answer be in this scenario?

I'm trying to gauge whether this is a consistent belief, or whether you are just trying to legitimise a blatant act of imperialism.


Ok fine. I'll play ball.

Yes, if that was the case, it would be justified. But it isn't because in RL America is the greatest nation on Earth.
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Postby Ublia » Sun Nov 11, 2012 3:48 pm

Ruridova wrote:
Ublia wrote:
So sorry I spazed. But you are one sick Imperialist bastard Greater Nilfgaard. We are Canadian and we shall forever be Canadian! Long live the Queen (i cannot believe I just saud that please forgive me my fellow Socialists)

America needs to be combating the stereotype that we're all psychotic imperialists. Taking control of Canada would help that stereotype so much.


Quite. Even the UK to a degree is going less and less Imperialsit. America you need to wake up and see the truth!
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Postby Divair » Sun Nov 11, 2012 3:49 pm

Greater Nilfgaard wrote:
The Joseon Dynasty wrote:
No, we're discussing your commitment to a principle you've used to justify your beliefs. We're not just tossing around random hypotheticals. So, what would your answer be in this scenario?

I'm trying to gauge whether this is a consistent belief, or whether you are just trying to legitimise a blatant act of imperialism.


Ok fine. I'll play ball.

Yes, if that was the case, it would be justified. But it isn't because in RL America is the greatest nation on Earth.

No.

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Postby Saruhan » Sun Nov 11, 2012 3:49 pm

Greater Nilfgaard wrote:
The Joseon Dynasty wrote:
No, we're discussing your commitment to a principle you've used to justify your beliefs. We're not just tossing around random hypotheticals. So, what would your answer be in this scenario?

I'm trying to gauge whether this is a consistent belief, or whether you are just trying to legitimise a blatant act of imperialism.


Ok fine. I'll play ball.

Yes, if that was the case, it would be justified. But it isn't because in RL America is the greatest nation on Earth.

By what measure?
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Postby Ruridova » Sun Nov 11, 2012 3:49 pm

Ublia wrote:
Divair wrote:Maybe we should just keep repeating 'no' and one day OP will get it into his head.


Or we could admit him or her to the psyche ward in Texas i hear they still use leechs and bleedings to solve cures.

Oh please, we're not that far behind. Cruel and unusual punishment are illegal. We just use electroshock therapy, waterboarding, and... um.... uh.... oops. Sorry.

:p
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Postby Oneracon » Sun Nov 11, 2012 3:49 pm

Ruridova wrote:America needs to be combating the stereotype that we're all psychotic imperialists. Taking control of Canada would help that stereotype so much.


Get to work smacking those American Exceptionalists then you'll be well on your way :lol:
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Postby Scandza » Sun Nov 11, 2012 3:49 pm

Saruhan wrote:
Greater Nilfgaard wrote:
Ok fine. I'll play ball.

Yes, if that was the case, it would be justified. But it isn't because in RL America is the greatest nation on Earth.

By what measure?

Ability to destroy the Earth many times over.

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Postby Ruridova » Sun Nov 11, 2012 3:49 pm

Ublia wrote:
Ruridova wrote:America needs to be combating the stereotype that we're all psychotic imperialists. Taking control of Canada would help that stereotype so much.


Quite. Even the UK to a degree is going less and less Imperialsit. America you need to wake up and see the truth!

Some of us have. *points to self* Others, not so much.
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Postby Stedicules » Sun Nov 11, 2012 3:50 pm

yeah why not. i think it'd be chill.
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Postby Divair » Sun Nov 11, 2012 3:50 pm

Stedicules wrote:yeah why not. i think it'd be chill.

No.

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Postby Greater Nilfgaard » Sun Nov 11, 2012 3:52 pm

Saruhan wrote:
Greater Nilfgaard wrote:
Ok fine. I'll play ball.

Yes, if that was the case, it would be justified. But it isn't because in RL America is the greatest nation on Earth.

By what measure?


GDP
Military Projection
Global Influence
The fact that the UN headquarters is in our largest city

The Earth revolves around the USA. Figuratively speaking.
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Postby Wolfmanne » Sun Nov 11, 2012 3:52 pm

Lol, this is one of the fastest growing threads I've seen on NS.
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Postby Ublia » Sun Nov 11, 2012 3:52 pm

Stedicules wrote:yeah why not. i think it'd be chill.


NEVER.
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Postby Divair » Sun Nov 11, 2012 3:52 pm

Greater Nilfgaard wrote:
Saruhan wrote:By what measure?


GDP
Military Projection
Global Influence
The fact that the UN headquarters is in our largest city

The Earth revolves around the USA. Figuratively speaking.

Which means nothing to the average citizen.

Nice try, though.

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