Should Canada merge with the USA?

[Saruhan]

Oh no you don't! You are not brining all your pollution! Poor gun restrictions! Ultra-Conmservative mumbo-jumbo up here. We are Canada and again we are free!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Until Another Nation decides to claim it anyway.

Maybe the French will want their colony back someday Good luck fighting those guys off.

The Quebekers begged France to take them a few years ago. The French turned them down

[Ruridova]

Okay, I know our nation is exceedingly skilled at screwing up big time but are we really that bad?

Civil Rights
Nationwide same-sex marriage: Yes (since 2006 - Civil Marriage Act)
Laws restricting abortion nationwide: No (since 1988 - R v Morgentaler)
Nationwide universal healthcare: Yes (since 1985 - Canada Health Act)

Economically
Canadian Imperial Bank of Commerce (CIBC) - Most Stable Commercial Bank in North America
Toronto Dominion Bank (TD) - Expanding into American markets as smaller banks go under
Governor of the Bank of Canada (Canada's federal reserve) is also the head of the global Financial Stability Board
Higher GDP per capita then the United States according to: IMF, World Bank, CIA World Factbook, and the UN

Resources
Proven Oil Reserves: 3rd largest in the world (behind Saudi Arabia and Venezuela)
Total Renewable Water Resources: 3rd largest in the world (behind Brazil and Russia)
Leading global producer of gold, diamonds, potash, and uranium

Talking about America's fuckups not Canada's successes.

Oh deal with it.

It's not just the tea. It's the fact that you mangled our language, too. And you keep turning up late for wars. Apart from the ones you drag us into, at least.

Oh come now. We've just updated it. Besides, like spelling color and flavor with a u or maneuver manouvre makes sense anyways.
And we weren't provoked until the Zimmerman Telegram and Pearl Harbor! There was a time when we didn't attack people we vaguely didn't like on flimsy reasoning after all.

[Meritocratic States]

There is another, philosophical, reason why the US should annex Canada.
Utilitarianism
Basically this is the principle that whats better for more people is more desirable than whats good for less people.

Merging with Canada is good for the USA, because it gives us access to their resources and farmland (global warming will make Canada one of the most fertile nations on Earth). Since the US has a population of 310 million, and Canada has about a tenth of that. The merger should benefit the US the most. This is the fairest way to go about it, according to Utilitarianism.

"The merger should benefit the US the most."

You see what you are arguing? What about Canadians that are the Americans are annexing? What sort of economic benefits would they have?

DON'T mention that Canada would be a part of the "superpower" and we would have vote for the next US president. Other facts, bring it up.

[The Joseon Dynasty]

There is another, philosophical, reason why the US should annex Canada.
Utilitarianism
Basically this is the principle that whats better for more people is more desirable than whats good for less people.

Merging with Canada is good for the USA, because it gives us access to their resources and farmland (global warming will make Canada one of the most fertile nations on Earth). Since the US has a population of 310 million, and Canada has about a tenth of that. The merger should benefit the US the most. This is the fairest way to go about it, according to Utilitarianism.

Why shouldn't the United States be absorbed by China, and provide the Chinese with resources? There are more people in China, after all.

[Ruridova]

Quebekers

Quebecois?

[Nightkill the Emperor]

Until Another Nation decides to claim it anyway.

Maybe the French will want their colony back someday Good luck fighting those guys off.

The Quebekers begged France to take them a few years ago. The French turned them down

Source?

[Saruhan]

No, because you'll probably end up trying to kill us in the end

Why would we every try and do such a thing, contrary to what the Op is suggesting most American's like Canada and the US the way they are now.

I'm talking a bunch of years down the road, after we've been treated as colonial slaves they'll think of us as a waste of resources

[Ile Tobi]

There is another, philosophical, reason why the US should annex Canada.
Utilitarianism
Basically this is the principle that whats better for more people is more desirable than whats good for less people.

Merging with Canada is good for the USA, because it gives us access to their resources and farmland (global warming will make Canada one of the most fertile nations on Earth). Since the US has a population of 310 million, and Canada has about a tenth of that. The merger should benefit the US the most. This is the fairest way to go about it, according to Utilitarianism.

Nope that's just imperialism.

[Osaea]

Ok so here's a thought. The USA and Canada share one of the longest borders in the world. They are also very close trading partners and are culturally quite similar (except for Canadian thanksgiving being too early and them pronouncing certain words wrong, but these are quite minor). Compared to US-Mexican Relations which is compounded by issues like the Drug War and Immigration, US-Canadian relations have been very smooth for generations.

So here is my proposal. Canada and the USA should officially merge. Canada can be divided into like 5-6 new American states.
Here's my idea
Partition Plan

So what does NS think?
I think this would benefit the USA because it would give us all of Canada's significant natural resources. Also with global warming the area may become prime farmland. It would be good for Canadians too, because they would finally be US citizens and could vote for the President and join Congress.

No. We don't want Canada. They remind us too much of Europe...

And Canada doesn't want the United States--they remind them too much of Georgia (not the republic on the Black Sea).

The status quo will stay just that.

[Meritocratic States]

Quebekers

Quebecois?

Both apply, it doesn't really matter.

[The Archregimancy]

I am particularly amused at the fact that almost all of Labrador is in 'Quebec', and most of Quebec is in 'Labrador'.

I don't think that partition plan is designed to reassure Canadians that US citizens know much about Canadian geography.

And how Quebec has annexed all of the Maritimes, which would mean that the majority of Quebec would be Anglophone

What always baffles me about these annexation plans is why they never call for all of the provinces to just be let in as individual states - they'd all qualify on the basis of population in their own right, even PEI.

Instead there's always an attempt to come up with some zany plan that pays absolutely no attention to actual Canadian geography, politics, or tradition.

[Oneracon]

Talking about America's fuckups not Canada's successes.

I would call not having a few of those things (*cough*civil rights*cough*) to be a pretty major fuckup. Especially with being the only developed country in the world that doesn't offer some form of universal healthcare.

[Ublia]

There is another, philosophical, reason why the US should annex Canada.
Utilitarianism
Basically this is the principle that whats better for more people is more desirable than whats good for less people.

Merging with Canada is good for the USA, because it gives us access to their resources and farmland (global warming will make Canada one of the most fertile nations on Earth). Since the US has a population of 310 million, and Canada has about a tenth of that. The merger should benefit the US the most. This is the fairest way to go about it, according to Utilitarianism.

Nope that's just imperialism.

As a Socialist and Canadain i will say this "Imperialism is dead! Long live Canada!"-Ublia Canadian nationalist and Socialist

[Greater Nilfgaard]

There is another, philosophical, reason why the US should annex Canada.
Utilitarianism
Basically this is the principle that whats better for more people is more desirable than whats good for less people.

Merging with Canada is good for the USA, because it gives us access to their resources and farmland (global warming will make Canada one of the most fertile nations on Earth). Since the US has a population of 310 million, and Canada has about a tenth of that. The merger should benefit the US the most. This is the fairest way to go about it, according to Utilitarianism.

No, because you'll probably end up trying to kill us in tn the end

No we wont. The whole reason behind this plan is that Americans and Canadians are so similar and thus should be one country. And this would be beneficial to the majority of this "NEW" America, because we now have access to all those neat resources that used to belong to just Canada but now belong to all of us.


I'm doing the whole continent a favor with this plan.

[Nightkill the Emperor]

No, because you'll probably end up trying to kill us in tn the end

No we wont. The whole reason behind this plan is that Americans and Canadians are so similar and thus should be one country. And this would be beneficial to the majority of this "NEW" America, because we now have access to all those neat resources that used to belong to just Canada but now belong to all of us.


I'm doing the whole continent a favor with this plan.

Bullshit.

[Ublia]

No, because you'll probably end up trying to kill us in tn the end

No we wont. The whole reason behind this plan is that Americans and Canadians are so similar and thus should be one country. And this would be beneficial to the majority of this "NEW" America, because we now have access to all those neat resources that used to belong to just Canada but now belong to all of us.


I'm doing the whole continent a favor with this plan.

You must be stoned to think we're similar!

[Zathganastan]

Why would we every try and do such a thing, contrary to what the Op is suggesting most American's like Canada and the US the way they are now.

I'm talking a bunch of years down the road, after we've been treated as colonial slaves they'll think of us as a waste of resources

Ah well thankfully what the Op wants will never happen, as a lot of other people have suggested Canada should be for Canadians while America remains for American's.

[The Joseon Dynasty]

No, because you'll probably end up trying to kill us in tn the end

No we wont. The whole reason behind this plan is that Americans and Canadians are so similar and thus should be one country. And this would be beneficial to the majority of this "NEW" America, because we now have access to all those neat resources that used to belong to just Canada but now belong to all of us.


I'm doing the whole continent a favor with this plan.

Have you ever been to Canada?

[Osaea]

And how Quebec has annexed all of the Maritimes, which would mean that the majority of Quebec would be Anglophone

What always baffles me about these annexation plans is why they never call for all of the provinces to just be let in as individual states - they'd all qualify on the basis of population in their own right, even PEI.

Instead there's always an attempt to come up with some zany plan that pays absolutely no attention to actual Canadian geography, politics, or tradition.

There's also the whole "Give all of this to Alaska."

Because Alaska is too crowded, and the solution is to redraw the lines so that it administers Yukon.

[Meritocratic States]

No, because you'll probably end up trying to kill us in tn the end

No we wont. The whole reason behind this plan is that Americans and Canadians are so similar and thus should be one country. And this would be beneficial to the majority of this "NEW" America, because we now have access to all those neat resources that used to belong to just Canada but now belong to all of us.


I'm doing the whole continent a favor with this plan.

Nah, with your nations' current economic outlook, you might drag us into recession.

[Divair]

No we wont. The whole reason behind this plan is that Americans and Canadians are so similar and thus should be one country. And this would be beneficial to the majority of this "NEW" America, because we now have access to all those neat resources that used to belong to just Canada but now belong to all of us.


I'm doing the whole continent a favor with this plan.

You must be stoned to think we're similar!

No, just ignorant. Like anyone who would support such an insane plan.

[Ruridova]

BTW, to the various non-Americans on this thread, we're not all this crazy.

[Greater Nilfgaard]

There is another, philosophical, reason why the US should annex Canada.
Utilitarianism
Basically this is the principle that whats better for more people is more desirable than whats good for less people.

Merging with Canada is good for the USA, because it gives us access to their resources and farmland (global warming will make Canada one of the most fertile nations on Earth). Since the US has a population of 310 million, and Canada has about a tenth of that. The merger should benefit the US the most. This is the fairest way to go about it, according to Utilitarianism.

Why shouldn't the United States be absorbed by China, and provide the Chinese with resources? There are more people in China, after all.

The Chinese government is corrupt and totalitarian. The only people to benefit would be the Communist elite. Nice try tho.

[Greater Nilfgaard]

No we wont. The whole reason behind this plan is that Americans and Canadians are so similar and thus should be one country. And this would be beneficial to the majority of this "NEW" America, because we now have access to all those neat resources that used to belong to just Canada but now belong to all of us.


I'm doing the whole continent a favor with this plan.

Have you ever been to Canada?

To Toronto.

[Saruhan]

The Quebekers begged France to take them a few years ago. The French turned them down

Source?

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