Should Canada merge with the USA?

[Zathganastan]

No. We want syrup. Hand it over, buddy.

How bout bacon?

No down here we just call it ham.

[North California]

America and Canada could still be close friends though, just not roommates.

And we would meet up at your basement to have a bowl

Wanna go egg Mexico?

[Charellia]

We will have no voice in politics. Our languages will be under threat, so will our environment and entire way of life, our society itself will be destroyed, and all to e chained to a corpse?

Your language is under threat? Dude you guys speak English too. The only thing under threat would be those spelling issues.
Colour would become color. Other than that I see no problems.

Most of us speak English but most of Quebec is French and if you know anything about Canadian history that will never ever change.

[Saruhan]

No. We want syrup. Hand it over, buddy.

We'll give you some syrup and throw in Rob Ford gratis.

Take the back bacon and well give you the entire French Canadian population as a bonus

[Phreakadise]

I don't particularly care for a NAU (North American Union). It seems to me that all of the nations involved in such unionizations (EU, I'm looking at you) gain each other's problems while gaining little benefit.

I would be more for the US breaking into 5 or 6 seperate regional countries. Alaska, Texas, Western NA, Central NA, Southern NA, Atlantic NA.

Texas could probably be split between Central and Southern NA.

Hell, I think that's the way it will go once the US implodes anyway. I'll be going where the Libertarians are, just a little FYI.

[Ruridova]

You hear that Britain? We picked Canada over you guys! How does that make you feel?

Well, speaking as a Briton I must say I really don't care. You're a bunch of traitors anyway. We've never forgiven you for pouring away the tea.

Oh deal with it.

[Ublia]

We'll give you some syrup and throw in Rob Ford gratis.

Take the back bacon and well give you the entire French Canadian population as a bonus

Not the bacon. And the French are needed a lot of Canadas industries in Quebec. plus I love visiting Montreal and third the Maritimes would be severed from the rest of Canada! So lets keep those Quebecois for a while at least until Maine joins us.

[Oneracon]

As has been said earlier: Over my dead body.

There are literally no positives from Canada's side of the issue: Losing sovereignty, moving backwards at least 10 years on civil rights, being tied to a failing economy, losing our social programs like universal healthcare, completely undermining ethnic diversity (cultural mosaic not a melting pot), no doubt we'd be required to privatise Crown Corporations, and not to mention the extra hassle of travel now that we would be using US Passports instead of Canadian ones.

I would and will take up arms to defend my country, my government, my rights, and my Queen.

Okay, I know our nation is exceedingly skilled at screwing up big time but are we really that bad?

Civil Rights
Nationwide same-sex marriage: Yes (since 2006 - Civil Marriage Act)
Laws restricting abortion nationwide: No (since 1988 - R v Morgentaler)
Nationwide universal healthcare: Yes (since 1985 - Canada Health Act)

Economically
Canadian Imperial Bank of Commerce (CIBC) - Most Stable Commercial Bank in North America
Toronto Dominion Bank (TD) - Expanding into American markets as smaller banks go under
Governor of the Bank of Canada (Canada's federal reserve) is also the head of the global Financial Stability Board
Higher GDP per capita then the United States according to: IMF, World Bank, CIA World Factbook, and the UN

Resources
Proven Oil Reserves: 3rd largest in the world (behind Saudi Arabia and Venezuela)
Total Renewable Water Resources: 3rd largest in the world (behind Brazil and Russia)
Leading global producer of gold, diamonds, potash, and uranium

[The Zeonic States]

Your language is under threat? Dude you guys speak English too. The only thing under threat would be those spelling issues.
Colour would become color. Other than that I see no problems.

Most of us speak English but most of Quebec is French and if you know anything about Canadian history that will never ever change.

A quarter of Chicago and new york speak German and French ._. It has yet to change but it also has not interfered greatly with them living among other language speakers.

Heck there is a fellow down just four blocks from that speaks russian, Language would not be a massive barrier.

Of course there might be issues if they also don't understand or speak english...But cross that bridge when it comes to it.

[Greater Nilfgaard]

There is another, philosophical, reason why the US should annex Canada.
Utilitarianism
Basically this is the principle that whats better for more people is more desirable than whats good for less people.

Merging with Canada is good for the USA, because it gives us access to their resources and farmland (global warming will make Canada one of the most fertile nations on Earth). Since the US has a population of 310 million, and Canada has about a tenth of that. The merger should benefit the US the most. This is the fairest way to go about it, according to Utilitarianism.

[Ublia]

Okay, I know our nation is exceedingly skilled at screwing up big time but are we really that bad?

Civil Rights
Nationwide same-sex marriage: Yes (since 2006 - Civil Marriage Act)
No laws restricting abortion nationwide: Yes (since 1988 - R v Morgentaler)
Nationwide universal healthcare: Yes (since 1985 - Canada Health Act)

Economically
Canadian Imperial Bank of Commerce (CIBC) - Most Stable Commercial Bank in North America
Toronto Dominion Bank (TD) - Expanding into American markets as smaller banks go under
Governor of the Bank of Canada (Canada's federal reserve) is also the head of the global Financial Stability Board
Higher GDP per capita then the United States according to: IMF, World Bank, CIA World Factbook, and the UN

Resources
Proven Oil Reserves: 3rd largest in the world (behind Saudi Arabia and Venezuela)
Total Renewable Water Resources: 3rd largest in the world (behind Brazil and Russia)
Leading global producer of gold, diamonds, potash, and uranium

Ah shucks its good to be Canada!

[Old Tyrannia]

Well, speaking as a Briton I must say I really don't care. You're a bunch of traitors anyway. We've never forgiven you for pouring away the tea.

Oh deal with it.

It's not just the tea. It's the fact that you mangled our language, too. And you keep turning up late for wars. Apart from the ones you drag us into, at least.

[Saruhan]

Take the back bacon and well give you the entire French Canadian population as a bonus

Not the bacon. And the French are needed a lot of Canadas industries in Quebec. plus I love visiting Montreal and third the Maritimes would be severed from the rest of Canada! So lets keep those Quebecois for a while at least until Maine joins us.

Why don't we just import some Mexicans to fill the gap? Their food is better anyway (besides poutine, that stuffs awesome)

[Osaea]

I don't particularly care for a NAU (North American Union). It seems to me that all of the nations involved in such unionizations (EU, I'm looking at you) gain each other's problems while gaining little benefit.

I would be more for the US breaking into 5 or 6 seperate regional countries. Alaska, Texas, Western NA, Central NA, Southern NA, Atlantic NA.

Texas could probably be split between Central and Southern NA.

Hell, I think that's the way it will go once the US implodes anyway. I'll be going where the Libertarians are, just a little FYI.

You may have a dilemma, as a violent implosion that would cause such a splintering would probably necessitate well-organized military states, at least at first, until the lines stabilized.

"No such thing as a libertarian superpower," after all. It wouldn't be permanent by any means, but the first few years would probably demand it as a nature of the implosion (look at the demise of the Indian Empire, the Soviet Union, British Ireland, etc.) and an indefinite period of fighting.

On the other hand, if it was a peaceable collapse--difficult, but not impossible--that wouldn't be a problem.

[Divair]

There is another, philosophical, reason why the US should annex Canada.
Utilitarianism
Basically this is the principle that whats better for more people is more desirable than whats good for less people.

Merging with Canada is good for the USA, because it gives us access to their resources and farmland (global warming will make Canada one of the most fertile nations on Earth). Since the US has a population of 310 million, and Canada has about a tenth of that. The merger should benefit the US the most. This is the fairest way to go about it, according to Utilitarianism.

And so finally the OP admits the only country to benefit from this is the US and it's just an imperialist agenda packed in a neat package.


We all repeat:
No.

[Ublia]

There is another, philosophical, reason why the US should annex Canada.
Utilitarianism
Basically this is the principle that whats better for more people is more desirable than whats good for less people.

Merging with Canada is good for the USA, because it gives us access to their resources and farmland (global warming will make Canada one of the most fertile nations on Earth). Since the US has a population of 310 million, and Canada has about a tenth of that. The merger should benefit the US the most. This is the fairest way to go about it, according to Utilitarianism.

Oh no you don't! You are not brining all your pollution! Poor gun restrictions! Ultra-Conmservative mumbo-jumbo up here. We are Canada and again we are free!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Old Tyrannia]

There is another, philosophical, reason why the US should annex Canada.
Utilitarianism
Basically this is the principle that whats better for more people is more desirable than whats good for less people.

Merging with Canada is good for the USA, because it gives us access to their resources and farmland (global warming will make Canada one of the most fertile nations on Earth). Since the US has a population of 310 million, and Canada has about a tenth of that. The merger should benefit the US the most. This is the fairest way to go about it, according to Utilitarianism.

That's only a logical argument if you're a utilitarian. And even then, I imagine you may be missing the point a bit.

[Saruhan]

There is another, philosophical, reason why the US should annex Canada.
Utilitarianism
Basically this is the principle that whats better for more people is more desirable than whats good for less people.

Merging with Canada is good for the USA, because it gives us access to their resources and farmland (global warming will make Canada one of the most fertile nations on Earth). Since the US has a population of 310 million, and Canada has about a tenth of that. The merger should benefit the US the most. This is the fairest way to go about it, according to Utilitarianism.

No, because you'll probably end up trying to kill us in tn the end

[Saruhan]

Most of us speak English but most of Quebec is French and if you know anything about Canadian history that will never ever change.

A quarter of Chicago and new york speak German and French ._. It has yet to change but it also has not interfered greatly with them living among other language speakers.

Heck there is a fellow down just four blocks from that speaks russian, Language would not be a massive barrier.

Of course there might be issues if they also don't understand or speak english...But cross that bridge when it comes to it.

Outside of the cities a lot of them don't speak English, it's like France basically.

[North California]

You hear that Britain? We picked Canada over you guys! How does that make you feel?

Well, speaking as a Briton I must say I really don't care. You're a bunch of traitors anyway. We've never forgiven you for pouring away the tea.

The Spirit of '76 is strong with me.

Long live the Revolution!

[The Zeonic States]

There is another, philosophical, reason why the US should annex Canada.
Utilitarianism
Basically this is the principle that whats better for more people is more desirable than whats good for less people.

Merging with Canada is good for the USA, because it gives us access to their resources and farmland (global warming will make Canada one of the most fertile nations on Earth). Since the US has a population of 310 million, and Canada has about a tenth of that. The merger should benefit the US the most. This is the fairest way to go about it, according to Utilitarianism.

Oh no you don't! You are not brining all your pollution! Poor gun restrictions! Ultra-Conmservative mumbo-jumbo up here. We are Canada and again we are free!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Until Another Nation decides to claim it anyway.

Maybe the French will want their colony back someday Good luck fighting those guys off.

[Inyourfaceistan]

Ok so here's a thought. The USA and Canada share one of the longest borders in the world. They are also very close trading partners and are culturally quite similar (except for Canadian thanksgiving being too early and them pronouncing certain words wrong, but these are quite minor). Compared to US-Mexican Relations which is compounded by issues like the Drug War and Immigration, US-Canadian relations have been very smooth for generations.

So here is my proposal. Canada and the USA should officially merge. Canada can be divided into like 5-6 new American states.
Here's my idea
Partition Plan

So what does NS think?
I think this would benefit the USA because it would give us all of Canada's significant natural resources. Also with global warming the area may become prime farmland. It would be good for Canadians too, because they would finally be US citizens and could vote for the President and join Congress.

No. We don't want Canada. They remind us too much of Europe...

[Zathganastan]

There is another, philosophical, reason why the US should annex Canada.
Utilitarianism
Basically this is the principle that whats better for more people is more desirable than whats good for less people.

Merging with Canada is good for the USA, because it gives us access to their resources and farmland (global warming will make Canada one of the most fertile nations on Earth). Since the US has a population of 310 million, and Canada has about a tenth of that. The merger should benefit the US the most. This is the fairest way to go about it, according to Utilitarianism.

No, because you'll probably end up trying to kill us in the end

Why would we every try and do such a thing, contrary to what the Op is suggesting most American's like Canada and the US the way they are now.

[Charellia]

:meh: It might as well be a colony of the United States already they depend upon the U.S.A for their Majority of their export income, They depend upon American Military Protection ever since the Brits sort of abandoned them to the results of their Actions after 1812.

I suppose making it offical and expanding the "Borders" of the United States though would make the Americans Happy i guess, but the Canadians are just deluding themselves if they view themselves as citizens of a sovereign state.

That entire country or rather collection of countries has been nothing but colonies of various Nations since it's founding.

._. So yeah let them Merge it might shut up uppity canadians a little bit.

Are you aware that Canada is making trade deals with China and India for the sole purpose of reducing our dependence on America?
Also anybody who thinks we're not a sovereign nation might want to remember what we were doing during Iraq

[Ublia]

A quarter of Chicago and new york speak German and French ._. It has yet to change but it also has not interfered greatly with them living among other language speakers.

Heck there is a fellow down just four blocks from that speaks russian, Language would not be a massive barrier.

Of course there might be issues if they also don't understand or speak english...But cross that bridge when it comes to it.

Outside of the cities a lot of them don't speak English, it's like France basically.

Yeah have you ever been to Montreal and Quebec in Montreal they'll gladlly speak English you go to Quebec City and you speak english you get dirty looks.