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Grand Britannia
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Postby Grand Britannia » Sun Nov 11, 2012 8:45 pm

Why just Canada?

Why not North America? :twisted:
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Postby Soviet Canuckistan » Sun Nov 11, 2012 8:45 pm

Trolling Hajj wrote:
Soviet Canuckistan wrote:I said hating and attacking, you guys hate Iran.



As if Stephen Harper didn't close the Iranian embassy, don't play that hypocritical game, you guys are just as along with us on our stupid foreign adventures. You've been a willing particpant on everything from Desert Storm to Libya.

I haven't, neither has a lot of Canada, our crappy government is dragging us through this.
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Postby Greater Nilfgaard » Sun Nov 11, 2012 8:45 pm

Great Holy Prussia wrote:
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I don't hate Iran. Or Canada for that matter. I've proposed this plan because I love Canada.

IF YOU LOVE CANADA, then, let the US Merge with CANADA! Plain and simple! We get your Military, you get to have SOME of our resources. ONLY SOME!


I've been proposing a merger this whole time. Just a bit different than your version. I may love Canadians, but I also love America. My plan is the compromise.
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Postby The Royal Kingdom of Quebec » Sun Nov 11, 2012 8:45 pm

Trolling Hajj wrote:
Soviet Canuckistan wrote:I said hating and attacking, you guys hate Iran.



As if Stephen Harper didn't close the Iranian embassy, don't play that hypocritical game, you guys are just as along with us on our stupid foreign adventures. You've been a willing particpant on everything from Desert Storm to Libya.

But only because of stupid Conservative Government led by Harper..... :evil:
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Postby Vortiaganica » Sun Nov 11, 2012 8:46 pm

To be honest, the reasons for Canada and the USA merging seem quite sound.

However, the arguments for Canada merging into the US rather than vice versa seem to be limited to "the US is stronger".

This is rather subjective, no? I could argue Canada is stronger, because its superior government and ethics and justice etc. etc. would create a much stronger singular nation given a Canada - USA merger, compared to the US'.

In addition, Canada's government is much more palatable to the majority of members in this discussion.

Hence, I propose the Canadian Electoral District of Central North America. This seems the safest way to provide the benefits of US - Canadian merger to the Canadians without letting the American public screw the intricate difficulties of government up.

It's win win - the Americans get the Canadians to rule over them and the Canadians get America. Nowhere near as many problems.

In a similar vein, if anyone wants to assist my proposal with the Sri Lankan Constituency of the Sri Lanka Subcontinental Mainland...
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Postby Greater Nilfgaard » Sun Nov 11, 2012 8:46 pm

Soviet Canuckistan wrote:
Trolling Hajj wrote:

As if Stephen Harper didn't close the Iranian embassy, don't play that hypocritical game, you guys are just as along with us on our stupid foreign adventures. You've been a willing particpant on everything from Desert Storm to Libya.

I haven't, neither has a lot of Canada, our crappy government is dragging us through this.


Then why not join America?
Obama is a liberal, I think you'd like him
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Postby The Royal Kingdom of Quebec » Sun Nov 11, 2012 8:47 pm

Greater Nilfgaard wrote:
Soviet Canuckistan wrote:I haven't, neither has a lot of Canada, our crappy government is dragging us through this.


Then why not join America?
Obama is a liberal, I think you'd like him

:palm:
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Postby Nightkill the Emperor » Sun Nov 11, 2012 8:47 pm

Vortiaganica wrote:To be honest, the reasons for Canada and the USA merging seem quite sound.

However, the arguments for Canada merging into the US rather than vice versa seem to be limited to "the US is stronger".

This is rather subjective, no? I could argue Canada is stronger, because its superior government and ethics and justice etc. etc. would create a much stronger singular nation given a Canada - USA merger, compared to the US'.

In addition, Canada's government is much more palatable to the majority of members in this discussion.

Hence, I propose the Canadian Electoral District of Central North America. This seems the safest way to provide the benefits of US - Canadian merger to the Canadians without letting the American public screw the intricate difficulties of government up.

It's win win - the Americans get the Canadians to rule over them and the Canadians get America. Nowhere near as many problems.

In a similar vein, if anyone wants to assist my proposal with the Sri Lankan Constituency of the Sri Lanka Subcontinental Mainland...

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Postby Saruhan » Sun Nov 11, 2012 8:48 pm

Greater Nilfgaard wrote:
Soviet Canuckistan wrote:I haven't, neither has a lot of Canada, our crappy government is dragging us through this.


Then why not join America?
Obama is a liberal, I think you'd like him

He's more conservative then our conservative
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Postby Sulamalik » Sun Nov 11, 2012 8:48 pm

Trolling Hajj wrote:
Soviet Canuckistan wrote:I said hating and attacking, you guys hate Iran.



As if Stephen Harper didn't close the Iranian embassy, don't play that hypocritical game, you guys are just as along with us on our stupid foreign adventures. You've been a willing particpant on everything from Desert Storm to Libya.


Most Canadians aren't happy about our foreign escapades in the Middle East. Harper is a product of the post-9/11 world. He sustains himself through manipulating Canadians fears about the future, while glorifying a past that never really quite existed. The only reason why he won the last election was because of the incompetence of the Liberals. I'm counting on our first NDP PM to be heading into office soon.
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Postby Sulfar » Sun Nov 11, 2012 8:48 pm

Canada's Conservatives are arguably farther left than the Democrats. Try again.

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Postby Soviet Canuckistan » Sun Nov 11, 2012 8:48 pm

Greater Nilfgaard wrote:
Great Holy Prussia wrote:IF YOU LOVE CANADA, then, let the US Merge with CANADA! Plain and simple! We get your Military, you get to have SOME of our resources. ONLY SOME!


I've been proposing a merger this whole time. Just a bit different than your version. I may love Canadians, but I also love America. My plan is the compromise.

There's no real middle ground, one has to merge into the other, otherwise we'd have to make entire new political systems and other stuff and that would be a mess.
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Postby Soviet Canuckistan » Sun Nov 11, 2012 8:49 pm

Greater Nilfgaard wrote:
Soviet Canuckistan wrote:I haven't, neither has a lot of Canada, our crappy government is dragging us through this.


Then why not join America?
Obama is a liberal, I think you'd like him

In America, anything that's not Bush is uber-liberal, the Democrats are far too to the right for my liking.
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Postby Greater Nilfgaard » Sun Nov 11, 2012 8:50 pm

Soviet Canuckistan wrote:
Greater Nilfgaard wrote:
I've been proposing a merger this whole time. Just a bit different than your version. I may love Canadians, but I also love America. My plan is the compromise.

There's no real middle ground, one has to merge into the other, otherwise we'd have to make entire new political systems and other stuff and that would be a mess.


Canada merging with the US is the middle ground. It benefits both sides.
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Postby Ende » Sun Nov 11, 2012 8:50 pm

Ew, no.

The only thing they have to offer is funny accents and maple syrup. :p

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Postby Greater Nilfgaard » Sun Nov 11, 2012 8:50 pm

Saruhan wrote:
Greater Nilfgaard wrote:
Then why not join America?
Obama is a liberal, I think you'd like him

He's more conservative then our conservative


LOL. I wonder what that makes the Tea Party.
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Postby The Royal Kingdom of Quebec » Sun Nov 11, 2012 8:50 pm

Greater Nilfgaard wrote:
Soviet Canuckistan wrote:There's no real middle ground, one has to merge into the other, otherwise we'd have to make entire new political systems and other stuff and that would be a mess.


Canada merging with the US is the middle ground. It benefits both sides.

Not really. It would probably benefit Americans way more than the Canadians.
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Postby Saruhan » Sun Nov 11, 2012 8:51 pm

Greater Nilfgaard wrote:
Soviet Canuckistan wrote:There's no real middle ground, one has to merge into the other, otherwise we'd have to make entire new political systems and other stuff and that would be a mess.


Canada merging with the US is the middle ground. It benefits both sides.

No it's not and it doesn't, are you just illiterate and not able to read the evidence about why this isn't a good idea, or just obsessive?
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Postby Soviet Canuckistan » Sun Nov 11, 2012 8:51 pm

Greater Nilfgaard wrote:
Saruhan wrote:He's more conservative then our conservative


LOL. I wonder what that makes the Tea Party.

The Nazi Party, nuff' said.
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Postby Sulfar » Sun Nov 11, 2012 8:51 pm

The Royal Kingdom of Quebec wrote:
Greater Nilfgaard wrote:
Canada merging with the US is the middle ground. It benefits both sides.

Not really. It would probably benefit Americans way more than the Canadians.

Fixed.

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Postby Greater Nilfgaard » Sun Nov 11, 2012 8:51 pm

Ende wrote:Ew, no.

The only thing they have to offer is funny accents and maple syrup. :p


And resources. They have lots of oil. We totally like wont ever have to go into the Middle east again.
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Postby Vortiaganica » Sun Nov 11, 2012 8:52 pm

Greater Nilfgaard wrote:
Saruhan wrote:He's more conservative then our conservative


LOL. I wonder what that makes the Tea Party.


I think they classify as literal raving fascists on the international spectrum.
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Postby Soviet Canuckistan » Sun Nov 11, 2012 8:52 pm

Greater Nilfgaard wrote:
Ende wrote:Ew, no.

The only thing they have to offer is funny accents and maple syrup. :p


And resources. They have lots of oil. We totally like wont ever have to go into the Middle east again.

Then approve Keystone XL already! Godammit your government is slow.
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Postby Greater Nilfgaard » Sun Nov 11, 2012 8:53 pm

Saruhan wrote:
Greater Nilfgaard wrote:
Canada merging with the US is the middle ground. It benefits both sides.

No it's not and it doesn't, are you just illiterate and not able to read the evidence about why this isn't a good idea, or just obsessive?


No. You guys have just been resistant to my very generous offers and proposals. *sigh*
Theres no pleasing this crowd.
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Postby Socialdemokraterne » Sun Nov 11, 2012 8:53 pm

Greater Nilfgaard wrote:Military Force is last resort. I've said this already. I want diplomacy cause I love u guys.


Military action against Canada would (in addition to being essentially inconceivable) be illegitimate even if you could manage to convince either the President or the Congress that it would be a good idea to attack Canada.

I recommend you swiftly recall that the USA is a UN member nation and is therefore bound by its charter. I would then seek to remind you of Chapter VII of said charter, and invite you to recognize that it would be very easy to perceive an unprovoked military action against Canada with a unilateral declaration of war as a disturbance of the peace. Finally, I would remind you that the USA is but one of five permanent members of the security council, the other four being China, France, Russia, and the UK. None of those are going to be happy about an unprovoked US invasion of Canada, I assure you.

Congratulations. You, Great Leader, have a court date at the Hague and the other UN security council members are threatening a police action if you and yours don't back off immediately.
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