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Postby Vitaphone Racing » Mon Nov 12, 2012 11:03 pm

Minnysota wrote:
The TransPecos wrote:*snip*


So outside of EPA regulations and Obamacare, you came up with jobs going overseas? Right, because Obama totally has the power to not only stop that, but to overpower the extremely pro-corporation Republicans in the House if he wanted to stop that.

The rest of them you're ignoring the fact that there are likely government incentives to go forward with these new rules or you're just flat out ignoring the future benefits of said programs. So... I count two legitimate anti-business points you bring up. That number is sketchy itself because I'm not currently aware of the power Obama has over the EPA's regulatory policies.

Actually, Obama could with tariffs. The USA is a big enough country in itself to support a manufacturing industry without relying on foreign imports. Shit that comes in from countries with pathetic pay for workers and shitty quality standards should be taxed like hell.
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Postby Xathranaar » Mon Nov 12, 2012 11:04 pm

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Rubiconic Crossings V2 rev 1f wrote:Nice to see that people on the right are not sore losers. Oh...wait...scratch that..

http://www.washingtonpost.com/business/ ... story.html



Call me shocked...shocked!

Nothing better to see petty little scrotes throwing their toys out of the pram in fits of petulance. With luck any firings due to political affiliations will bite this asshole on the ass.

So NSG - hardnosed businessman or asshole? I vote for asshole.

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Postby Mike the Progressive » Mon Nov 12, 2012 11:37 pm

Gigaverse wrote:Typical a**holes... Typical conservatives... TYPICAL REPUBLICANS.


Yes, because all conservatives typically act like this.

I consider myself a conservative and I loathe the conservatism the GOP proclaims to espouse.

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Postby Rubiconic Crossings V2 rev 1f » Tue Nov 13, 2012 2:27 am

Hippostania wrote:Elections have consequences, and the consequences of Obama's re-election are decreased standarda of living, increased regulations and huge lay-offs. Don't say that the Republicans didn't warn you about this.. But oh well, you reap what you sow.


Are they? Really?

Be a good sport then and explain how and of course cite the sources you base this "fact" on...

Thanks!
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Postby New Rogernomics » Tue Nov 13, 2012 2:48 am

Rubiconic Crossings V2 rev 1f wrote:
Hippostania wrote:Elections have consequences, and the consequences of Obama's re-election are decreased standarda of living, increased regulations and huge lay-offs. Don't say that the Republicans didn't warn you about this.. But oh well, you reap what you sow.


Are they? Really?

Be a good sport then and explain how and of course cite the sources you base this "fact" on...

Thanks!
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Postby The TransPecos » Tue Nov 13, 2012 8:57 am

Just to clarify, I simply pointed out that the flight is due to to rising costs and imposed mandates. I never accused a party or person as being responsible. The issue is excessive and ever-increasing goverment regulatory and tax interference in the operation of the economy. IMO, both major parties are resonsible, the Democrats perhaps a bit more so.

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Postby Rubiconic Crossings V2 rev 1f » Tue Nov 13, 2012 9:06 am

The TransPecos wrote:Just to clarify, I simply pointed out that the flight is due to to rising costs and imposed mandates. I never accused a party or person as being responsible. The issue is excessive and ever-increasing goverment regulatory and tax interference in the operation of the economy. IMO, both major parties are resonsible, the Democrats perhaps a bit more so.


Oh god grief.

Ok...can you explain how and why and of course back up your reasoning with citations from credible sources?
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Postby Objectiveland » Tue Nov 13, 2012 9:11 am

I'm not sure what the point of this thread is. The blame doesn't matter. If this company chooses to fire employees to increase profits so be it.
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Postby The Black Forrest » Tue Nov 13, 2012 9:19 am

Objectiveland wrote:I'm not sure what the point of this thread is. The blame doesn't matter. If this company chooses to fire employees to increase profits so be it.


I am sure you would hold that stance and not worry about your imaginative children right?
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Postby Objectiveland » Tue Nov 13, 2012 10:02 am

The Black Forrest wrote:
Objectiveland wrote:I'm not sure what the point of this thread is. The blame doesn't matter. If this company chooses to fire employees to increase profits so be it.


I am sure you would hold that stance and not worry about your imaginative children right?


I'm not worried about my children at all. They have been raised to have confidence in themselves and their abilities. They go to a school where hard work is required and competence is rewarded.
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Postby The Black Forrest » Tue Nov 13, 2012 10:09 am

Objectiveland wrote:
The Black Forrest wrote:
I am sure you would hold that stance and not worry about your imaginative children right?


I'm not worried about my children at all. They have been raised to have confidence in themselves and their abilities. They go to a school where hard work is required and competence is rewarded.


Ohhh you home school them.
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* There is actually a War on Christmas. But Christmas started it, with it's unparalleled aggression against the Thanksgiving Holiday, and now Christmas has seized much Lebensraum in November, and are pushing into October. The rest of us seek to repel these invaders, and push them back to the status quo ante bellum Black Friday border. -Trotskylvania
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* I felt like Ayn Rand cornered me at a party, and three minutes in I found my first objection to what she was saying, but she kept talking without interruption for ten more days. - Max Barry talking about Atlas Shrugged

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Postby The UK in Exile » Tue Nov 13, 2012 10:13 am

Objectiveland wrote:
The Black Forrest wrote:
I am sure you would hold that stance and not worry about your imaginative children right?


I'm not worried about my children at all. They have been raised to have confidence in themselves and their abilities. They go to a school where hard work is required and competence is rewarded.


they are going to find the real world very, very confusing then.
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Postby Objectiveland » Tue Nov 13, 2012 10:18 am

The UK in Exile wrote:
Objectiveland wrote:
I'm not worried about my children at all. They have been raised to have confidence in themselves and their abilities. They go to a school where hard work is required and competence is rewarded.


they are going to find the real world very, very confusing then.


I agree. Hard work and competence are becomming very rare indeed. Thankfully the inferiority complex of 51% of American voters makes it eiser for those with abilities to succeed.
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Postby Objectiveland » Tue Nov 13, 2012 10:20 am

The Black Forrest wrote:
Objectiveland wrote:
I'm not worried about my children at all. They have been raised to have confidence in themselves and their abilities. They go to a school where hard work is required and competence is rewarded.


Ohhh you home school them.


No. I just don't allow the state to turn them into the average incompetent that public education produces.
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Postby The Land Fomerly Known as Ligerplace » Tue Nov 13, 2012 10:21 am

Objectiveland wrote:
The UK in Exile wrote:
they are going to find the real world very, very confusing then.


I agree hard work and competence is becomming very rare indeed. Thankfully the inferiority complex of 51% of American voters makes it eiser for those with abilities to succeed.

Ironic ain't it, now there really IS 47% of the country that feels like victims.
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The Land Fomerly Known as Ligerplace wrote:Ironic ain't it, now there really IS 47% of the country that feels like victims.

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Postby The UK in Exile » Tue Nov 13, 2012 10:25 am

Objectiveland wrote:
The UK in Exile wrote:
they are going to find the real world very, very confusing then.


I agree. Hard work and competence are becomming very rare indeed. Thankfully the inferiority complex of 51% of American voters makes it eiser for those with abilities to succeed.


unless that 51% percent happens to be writing the performance review of your little kids.

clever = argumentative.
hard working = poor time management.
confidence = arrogance.
superiority complex = ...superiority complex

its not who performs, its who grades the performance who counts. ;)
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Postby The Black Forrest » Tue Nov 13, 2012 10:25 am

Objectiveland wrote:
The Black Forrest wrote:
Ohhh you home school them.


No. I just don't allow the state to turn them into the average incompetent that public education produces.


Wait. That state can't do anything right but they are organized enough to do that?

So confused.
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* There is actually a War on Christmas. But Christmas started it, with it's unparalleled aggression against the Thanksgiving Holiday, and now Christmas has seized much Lebensraum in November, and are pushing into October. The rest of us seek to repel these invaders, and push them back to the status quo ante bellum Black Friday border. -Trotskylvania
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* I felt like Ayn Rand cornered me at a party, and three minutes in I found my first objection to what she was saying, but she kept talking without interruption for ten more days. - Max Barry talking about Atlas Shrugged

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Postby Neo Art » Tue Nov 13, 2012 10:26 am

The Land Fomerly Known as Ligerplace wrote:
Objectiveland wrote:
I agree hard work and competence is becomming very rare indeed. Thankfully the inferiority complex of 51% of American voters makes it eiser for those with abilities to succeed.

Ironic ain't it, now there really IS 47% of the country that feels like victims.


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Postby The Black Forrest » Tue Nov 13, 2012 10:26 am

The Land Fomerly Known as Ligerplace wrote:
Objectiveland wrote:
I agree hard work and competence is becomming very rare indeed. Thankfully the inferiority complex of 51% of American voters makes it eiser for those with abilities to succeed.

Ironic ain't it, now there really IS 47% of the country that feels like victims.


You just have to pull....;err what's that platitude again?
*I am a master proofreader after I click Submit.
* There is actually a War on Christmas. But Christmas started it, with it's unparalleled aggression against the Thanksgiving Holiday, and now Christmas has seized much Lebensraum in November, and are pushing into October. The rest of us seek to repel these invaders, and push them back to the status quo ante bellum Black Friday border. -Trotskylvania
* Silence Is Golden But Duct Tape Is Silver.
* I felt like Ayn Rand cornered me at a party, and three minutes in I found my first objection to what she was saying, but she kept talking without interruption for ten more days. - Max Barry talking about Atlas Shrugged

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Postby The Land Fomerly Known as Ligerplace » Tue Nov 13, 2012 10:27 am

Neo Art wrote:
The Land Fomerly Known as Ligerplace wrote:Ironic ain't it, now there really IS 47% of the country that feels like victims.


........fuck it, you win the internet.

Neo Art just commented my snark.

Sigging that for history.
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Neo Art wrote:
The Land Fomerly Known as Ligerplace wrote:Ironic ain't it, now there really IS 47% of the country that feels like victims.

........fuck it, you win the internet.

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Postby Norstal » Tue Nov 13, 2012 10:28 am

Hippostania wrote:Elections have consequences, and the consequences of Obama's re-election are decreased standarda of living, increased regulations and huge lay-offs. Don't say that the Republicans didn't warn you about this.. But oh well, you reap what you sow.

I wanna gather up all of your quotes and show it later to you in 4 years.
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Postby Farnhamia » Tue Nov 13, 2012 10:29 am

The Black Forrest wrote:
Objectiveland wrote:
No. I just don't allow the state to turn them into the average incompetent that public education produces.


Wait. That state can't do anything right but they are organized enough to do that?

So confused.

The state can't do anything right but it can do everything wrong. And watch, he'll compliment me on being correct even though I mock him.
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Postby Farnhamia » Tue Nov 13, 2012 10:31 am

Norstal wrote:
Hippostania wrote:Elections have consequences, and the consequences of Obama's re-election are decreased standarda of living, increased regulations and huge lay-offs. Don't say that the Republicans didn't warn you about this.. But oh well, you reap what you sow.

I wanna gather up all of your quotes and show it later to you in 4 years.

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Postby New Cassel » Tue Nov 13, 2012 10:31 am

Objectiveland wrote:I'm not sure what the point of this thread is. The blame doesn't matter. If this company chooses to fire employees to increase profits so be it.

The point is, is the guy a dick for blaming Obama, and not his own desire for said increased profits, for the layoffs or not.

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Postby The Land Fomerly Known as Ligerplace » Tue Nov 13, 2012 10:31 am

Norstal wrote:
Hippostania wrote:Elections have consequences, and the consequences of Obama's re-election are decreased standarda of living, increased regulations and huge lay-offs. Don't say that the Republicans didn't warn you about this.. But oh well, you reap what you sow.

I wanna gather up all of your quotes and show it later to you in 4 years.

You could just gather up his quotes before election day an show them now.
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The Land Fomerly Known as Ligerplace wrote:Ironic ain't it, now there really IS 47% of the country that feels like victims.

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