Do you believe in the Theory of Evolution?

[Frisivisia]

The Bible is a good source.

of what?
certainly not morality or history.

Sarcasm is sarcastic.

[Straughn]

The reverse could be said for atheists. The fact that an omnipotent entity who would punish them eternally for leading an immoral life is frightening to some.

Any omnipotent deity would understand proportional retribution.

Ka-ZING!
(perhaps an omniscient deity could, but the book itself demonstrates that Jealous is neither)

[Straughn]

of what?
certainly not morality or history.

Sarcasm is sarcastic.

Wait ... where do you shove things up a ball?

... and tautologies are .... inflammatory .... like Isitis-ITIS!
*scritch scratch*

[Farnhamia]

Fear is for the weak.

fine go ahead slap the tyrannosaur.

Slapping the tyrannosaur may be dumb but it's conceivable he wouldn't be afraid to do so.

[Sociobiology]

Nice backtrack, but that's not what the implications of your earlier quote are.

But this point, however, is still wrong. There is no absolute standard.

No, because if the "morality" came from anywhere except God there is a chance of it being wrong.
Yes, there is an absolute standard. Denying it does not mean it does not exist.

morality is a human invention, every species that invents it will have its own morality.
there is a chance your chosen god is wrong, therefore so would be the morality.

[Straughn]

Fear is for the weak.

fine go ahead slap the tyrannosaur.

...with my swingin' cod!

'sides, at this point, most people eat them with bacon and ranch.

[Samuraikoku]

fine go ahead slap the tyrannosaur.

He's my friend, actually.

[Sociobiology]

fine go ahead slap the tyrannosaur.

Slapping the tyrannosaur may be dumb but it's conceivable he wouldn't be afraid to do so.

exactly
fear is for those that survive.

[Big Jim P]

No, because if the "morality" came from anywhere except God there is a chance of it being wrong.
Yes, there is an absolute standard. Denying it does not mean it does not exist.

morality is a human invention, every species that invents it will have its own morality.
there is a chance your chosen god is wrong, therefore so would be the morality.

My morality does not come from god, and I am the most moral, honorable person you will ever meet.

[Sociobiology]

of what?
certainly not morality or history.

Sarcasm is sarcastic.

Sarcasm does not work well in an evolution thread, see Poe's law.

[Straughn]

Of kindling, vice, and iniquity, yes.

Bible is good for a snack, being an atheist, I enjoy a fetus and bible sandwich whenever possible.

sounds like a lot of fiber in that diet.
But as the Gospel of the FSM has clearly pointed out, only half of that diet is really worthwhile ....
hmmm ... something poetic there.

[Sociobiology]

morality is a human invention, every species that invents it will have its own morality.
there is a chance your chosen god is wrong, therefore so would be the morality.

My morality does not come from god, and I am the most moral, honorable person you will ever meet.

humble too

PS honor is not always a good thing.

[Samuraikoku]

My morality does not come from god, and I am the most moral, honorable person you will ever meet.

Mine doesn't, and that second claim, I leave up for other people to decide.

[Straughn]

Sarcasm is sarcastic.

Sarcasm does not work well in an evolution thread, see Poe's law.

This is a "Theory" thread, not a "Law" thread, good sir! ONLY A THEORY THREAD!
*humph*
Way to move the cheese, really classy.

[Farnhamia]

Slapping the tyrannosaur may be dumb but it's conceivable he wouldn't be afraid to do so.

exactly
fear is for those that survive.

True. One explanation for our propensity to see and hear things that aren't there may be evolutionary (she said, cleverly sliding the thread back on track). The hairy little guy on the East African plain who scampered up a tree at the rustle of the wind in the grass that wasn't a leopard lived longer than hairy little guy who didn't scamper when it was a leopard. He who's a scaredy-cat today lives to ... ahem ... pass on his genetic material another day.

[Straughn]

I leave up for other people to decide.

Aw, fuck them, what do they know? That's usually how these debates stay fueled.

[Sociobiology]

My morality does not come from god, and I am the most moral, honorable person you will ever meet.

Mine doesn't, and that second claim, I leave up for other people to decide.

being moral is like having a big penis,
if you have to say it, it probably isn't true.

[Straughn]

exactly
fear is for those that survive.

True. One explanation for our propensity to see and hear things that aren't there may be evolutionary (she said, cleverly sliding the thread back on track). The hairy little guy on the East African plain who scampered up a tree at the rustle of the wind in the grass that wasn't a leopard lived longer than hairy little guy who didn't scamper when it was a leopard. He who's a scaredy-cat today lives to ... ahem ... pass on his genetic material another day.

You are well served with this addendum, if i may ...
http://www.abc.net.au/local/stories/200 ... 286841.htm

"One of the mating strategies we've found out about is that the males act like females so that they can remain in close proximity to the female via camouflage", he says.

"These are generally the smaller cuttlefish that don't act aggressively".

[Samuraikoku]

Mine doesn't, and that second claim, I leave up for other people to decide.

being moral is like having a big penis,
if you have to say it, it probably isn't true.

That's why I said, I leave up to other people to decide.

[Straughn]

Mine doesn't, and that second claim, I leave up for other people to decide.

being moral is like having a big penis,
if you have to say it, it probably isn't true.

makes a great substitute for an american flag robe during election season.

[Sociobiology]

exactly
fear is for those that survive.

True. One explanation for our propensity to see and hear things that aren't there may be evolutionary (she said, cleverly sliding the thread back on track). The hairy little guy on the East African plain who scampered up a tree at the rustle of the wind in the grass that wasn't a leopard lived longer than hairy little guy who didn't scamper when it was a leopard. He who's a scaredy-cat today lives to ... ahem ... pass on his genetic material another day.

correct, the cost of a false positive was much MUCH less than the penalty of a false negative, so evolution would favor a system prone to false positives.

[Sociobiology]

being moral is like having a big penis,
if you have to say it, it probably isn't true.

That's why I said, I leave up to other people to decide.

I was agreeing with you as a comment about the previous poster.
forgot the quote within q quote limit.

[Farnhamia]

True. One explanation for our propensity to see and hear things that aren't there may be evolutionary (she said, cleverly sliding the thread back on track). The hairy little guy on the East African plain who scampered up a tree at the rustle of the wind in the grass that wasn't a leopard lived longer than hairy little guy who didn't scamper when it was a leopard. He who's a scaredy-cat today lives to ... ahem ... pass on his genetic material another day.

correct, the cost of a false positive was much MUCH less than the penalty of a false negative, so evolution would favor a system prone to false positives.

Unfortunately, this has given us Ghost Hunters. On the other hand, it's also given us Dracula and Salem's Lot, so maybe it's a decent trade off.

[Evandis]

I kinda think anyone who doesn't can't be taken seriously at this point.

I agree as well.

[Straughn]

I kinda think anyone who doesn't can't be taken seriously at this point.

I agree as well.

Might take em serious when you consider how many of them want their fingers on the nuclear option.