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Postby Maudlnya » Sat Nov 10, 2012 11:09 am

Bojikami wrote:
Somali Caliphate wrote:Evolution is the worst theory ever thought of in human history and the evidence against it now is overwhelming. I mean even if you don't have a religion, the Big Bang is now accepted as fact, due to the large amount of evidence supporting it and it shows that the universe had a beginning. Time and space themselves had a beginning, so how does Evolution account for what happened before the existence of time, space and matter?

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Postby Immoren » Sat Nov 10, 2012 11:09 am

Ovisterra wrote:
Tlaceceyaya wrote:No, they aren't. The methods by which they work are theories. Evolution and gravity can be observed, but the methods by which they work cannot be 100% proven.


They have been 100% proven. That's what a theory is.


Proven beyond reasonable doubt.
not 100% proven. :P
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Postby Ovisterra » Sat Nov 10, 2012 11:10 am

Tlaceceyaya wrote:
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They have been 100% proven. That's what a theory is.

No. A scientific theory could still be disproven. We could find out that the mechanism of evolution is the Walrus, and he masks his efforts by making it appear like natural selection.


"A scientific theory is "a well-substantiated explanation of some aspect of the natural world, based on a body of facts that have been repeatedly confirmed through observation and experiment.""

Theories are hypotheses that have been proven.

We couldn't find out that evolution doesn't exist because we can directly observe it.


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Postby Ovisterra » Sat Nov 10, 2012 11:10 am

Immoren wrote:
Ovisterra wrote:
They have been 100% proven. That's what a theory is.


Proven beyond reasonable doubt.
not 100% proven. :P


True. Bad phrasing on my part.
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Postby Tarvelia » Sat Nov 10, 2012 11:11 am

Nope
Sue me, ACLU, I'm a christian. :D
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Postby Ovisterra » Sat Nov 10, 2012 11:12 am

Tarvelia wrote:Nope
Sue me, ACLU, I'm a christian. :D


I was a Christian for over a decade and all that time I knew that evolution was real.
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Postby Maudlnya » Sat Nov 10, 2012 11:13 am

Tarvelia wrote:Nope
Sue me, ACLU, I'm a christian. :D

I am a Liberal Muslim and I strongly believe in evolution
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Postby Bojikami » Sat Nov 10, 2012 11:14 am

Maudlnya wrote:
Bojikami wrote:Obvious Christian is... obvious.

Ahem, obvious Mulsim is obvious

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Postby Torisakia » Sat Nov 10, 2012 11:14 am

Oh my god, not another fucking evolution thread. :palm:


Evolution and Creationism both exist, can we all agree on that?
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Postby Somali Caliphate » Sat Nov 10, 2012 11:14 am

Okay, can someone tell what the evidence for Evolution is?
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Postby Mavorpen » Sat Nov 10, 2012 11:15 am

Torisakia wrote:Oh my god, not another fucking evolution thread. :palm:


Evolution and Creationism both exist, can we all agree on that?

No, since creationism is an unsupported claim.
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Postby The Black Forrest » Sat Nov 10, 2012 11:15 am

Somali Caliphate wrote:Okay, can someone tell what the evidence for Evolution is?


Look up Darwin's finches.
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Postby Sebastia-Zachistan » Sat Nov 10, 2012 11:15 am

Torisakia wrote:Oh my god, not another fucking evolution thread. :palm:


Evolution and Creationism both exist, can we all agree on that?


Good luck getting the atheists to agree.
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Postby Tlaceceyaya » Sat Nov 10, 2012 11:16 am

Somali Caliphate wrote:Okay, can someone tell what the evidence for Evolution is?

Yep.
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Postby Vortropolis » Sat Nov 10, 2012 11:16 am

Torisakia wrote:Oh my god, not another fucking evolution thread. :palm:


Evolution and Creationism both exist, can we all agree on that?


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Postby Tlaceceyaya » Sat Nov 10, 2012 11:16 am

Torisakia wrote:Oh my god, not another fucking evolution thread. :palm:


Evolution and Creationism both exist, can we all agree on that?

Yes. Evolution exists as fact, and creationism exists as unsubstantiated hypothesis.
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Postby Mavorpen » Sat Nov 10, 2012 11:16 am

Somali Caliphate wrote:Okay, can someone tell what the evidence for Evolution is?


Divair wrote:Fuck it, evidence time.

http://anthro.palomar.edu/evolve/evolve_3.htm
http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/comdesc/
http://www.txtwriter.com/backgrounders/ ... tents.html
http://bioweb.cs.earlham.edu/9-12/evolu ... /live.html
http://evolution.berkeley.edu/evolibrar ... 0/lines_01
http://www.nature.com/nature/newspdf/evolutiongems.pdf
http://evolution.berkeley.edu/evolibrar ... _tiktaalik
http://evolution.berkeley.edu/evolibrar ... /devitt_01
http://evolution.berkeley.edu/evolibrar ... history_23
http://evolution.berkeley.edu/evolibrar ... history_16
http://www.allaboutcreation.org/evidenc ... lution.htm
http://www.nyu.edu/projects/fitch/cours ... dence.html
http://www.imls.uzh.ch/research/noll/pu ... 73_785.pdf
http://www.cell.com/developmental-cell/ ... 0703003253
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/article ... =pmcentrez
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/article ... =pmcentrez
http://www.gate.net/~rwms/hum_ape_chrom.html
http://www.nytimes.com/2006/03/07/scien ... .html?_r=1
http://jhered.oxfordjournals.org/content/91/3/221
http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/ar ... 1006000526
http://www.sciencemag.org/content/310/5746/287
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/article ... =pmcentrez
http://www.evolutionpages.com/chromosome_2.htm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x-WAHpC0Ah0
http://www.indiana.edu/~ensiweb/lessons/molb.ws.pdf
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/article ... =pmcentrez
http://www.nature.com/nature/journal/v4 ... 331a0.html
http://www.eurekalert.org/pub_releases/ ... 050603.php
http://www.eurekalert.org/pub_releases/ ... 071801.php
http://www.scripps.edu/newsandviews/e_20060327/evo.html
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/article ... =pmcentrez
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/article ... =pmcentrez
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/article ... =pmcentrez
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http://facstaff.gpc.edu/~pgore/geology/ ... vation.pdf
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Postby Torisakia » Sat Nov 10, 2012 11:16 am

Mavorpen wrote:
Torisakia wrote:Oh my god, not another fucking evolution thread. :palm:


Evolution and Creationism both exist, can we all agree on that?

No, since creationism is an unsupported claim.

It figures it has to be difficult.

Okay, how about this: Creationism and Evolutionism are both real depending on your beliefs. Can we all just damn agree on that and be happy?
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Postby The Black Forrest » Sat Nov 10, 2012 11:17 am

Torisakia wrote:Oh my god, not another fucking evolution thread. :palm:


Evolution and Creationism both exist, can we all agree on that?


Nope. Creationism doesn't have supporting data.
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Postby Fintanland » Sat Nov 10, 2012 11:17 am

Somali Caliphate wrote:Okay, can someone tell what the evidence for Evolution is?

Oh my... that will be a handful. Well, you can start on Wikipedia. Rationalwiki too, if you want a snarkier approach, more focused on the creationist "arguments". Alternatively, any biology textbook printed outside of the Deep South should give you a good primer.
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Postby Great Nepal » Sat Nov 10, 2012 11:17 am

Somali Caliphate wrote:Okay, can someone tell what the evidence for Evolution is?

Divair wrote:Fuck it, evidence time.

http://anthro.palomar.edu/evolve/evolve_3.htm
http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/comdesc/
http://www.txtwriter.com/backgrounders/ ... tents.html
http://bioweb.cs.earlham.edu/9-12/evolu ... /live.html
http://evolution.berkeley.edu/evolibrar ... 0/lines_01
http://www.nature.com/nature/newspdf/evolutiongems.pdf
http://evolution.berkeley.edu/evolibrar ... _tiktaalik
http://evolution.berkeley.edu/evolibrar ... /devitt_01
http://evolution.berkeley.edu/evolibrar ... history_23
http://evolution.berkeley.edu/evolibrar ... history_16
http://www.allaboutcreation.org/evidenc ... lution.htm
http://www.nyu.edu/projects/fitch/cours ... dence.html
http://www.imls.uzh.ch/research/noll/pu ... 73_785.pdf
http://www.cell.com/developmental-cell/ ... 0703003253
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/article ... =pmcentrez
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/article ... =pmcentrez
http://www.gate.net/~rwms/hum_ape_chrom.html
http://www.nytimes.com/2006/03/07/scien ... .html?_r=1
http://jhered.oxfordjournals.org/content/91/3/221
http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/ar ... 1006000526
http://www.sciencemag.org/content/310/5746/287
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/article ... =pmcentrez
http://www.evolutionpages.com/chromosome_2.htm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x-WAHpC0Ah0
http://www.indiana.edu/~ensiweb/lessons/molb.ws.pdf
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/article ... =pmcentrez
http://www.nature.com/nature/journal/v4 ... 331a0.html
http://www.eurekalert.org/pub_releases/ ... 050603.php
http://www.eurekalert.org/pub_releases/ ... 071801.php
http://www.scripps.edu/newsandviews/e_20060327/evo.html
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/article ... =pmcentrez
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/article ... =pmcentrez
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/article ... =pmcentrez
http://scienceray.com/biology/zoology/a ... maritimus/
http://facstaff.gpc.edu/~pgore/geology/ ... vation.pdf
http://www.nmsr.org/nylon.htm
http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/comdesc ... l#atavisms


Torisakia wrote:Oh my god, not another fucking evolution thread. :palm:
Evolution and Creationism both exist, can we all agree on that?

No.
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Postby Mavorpen » Sat Nov 10, 2012 11:17 am

Torisakia wrote:
Mavorpen wrote:No, since creationism is an unsupported claim.

It figures it has to be difficult.

Okay, how about this: Creationism and Evolutionism are both real depending on your beliefs. Can we all just damn agree on that and be happy?

No. Facts don't change just because you believe them.
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Postby Vortropolis » Sat Nov 10, 2012 11:18 am

Torisakia wrote:
Mavorpen wrote:No, since creationism is an unsupported claim.

It figures it has to be difficult.

Okay, how about this: Creationism and Evolutionism are both real depending on your beliefs. Can we all just damn agree on that and be happy?


I wish it was that easy.
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Postby Tlaceceyaya » Sat Nov 10, 2012 11:19 am

Torisakia wrote:
Mavorpen wrote:No, since creationism is an unsupported claim.

It figures it has to be difficult.

Okay, how about this: Creationism and Evolutionism are both real depending on your beliefs. Can we all just damn agree on that and be happy?

No.
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Postby Bojikami » Sat Nov 10, 2012 11:19 am

Somali Caliphate wrote:Okay, can someone tell what the evidence for Evolution is?

Ok smart guy. Look at the fossils of Dinosaurs, Wooly Mammoths, Sabre tooth tigers, etc. they all are ancestors of modern day mammals. Need more? Look at the great apes back then. See the many similarities? Evolution is the greatest discovery since nuclear power.
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