Do you believe in the Theory of Evolution?

[Ifreann]

Evolution as a theory won't exist in the next 3 decades. People are waking up to the biggest fraud in the history of science.

Creationism?

[Dyakovo]

Evolution as a theory won't exist in the next 3 decades.¹ People are waking up to the biggest fraud in the history of science.² I mean if it was true, why do Evolutionists argue amongst themselves and have like 50 different versions.³ The truth is only one and doesn't need to be revised. Whereas a lie like Evolution needs constant revision.⁴ How many people here reject Evolution?⁵ I mean who in their right mind would accept that their great ancestor is an ape.⁶ Besides there's a ridiculously easy argument against Evolution.⁷ Two in fact. First of all, a living organism can only come from a living thing, not a non living organism.^7a Second, lets assume that an animal evolved and had its genes mutated so that it was no longer the same organism, in order to reproduce and exist, it would need another organism that was similar enough to breed with to reproduce fertile offspring.^7b

1: Bullshit.
2: There is nothing fraudulent about the Theory of Evolution via Natural Selection.
3: There isn't.
4: The Theory of Evolution via Natural Selection is revised when new information comes to light. That's part of how science works.
5: Based on the poll there's 45 people who are ignorant.
6: Everyone.
7: This should be amusing...
7a: Has nothing to do with evolution.
7b: Apparently you have no concept of how speciation works... Not surprising really, since you don't know anything else about evolution...

[Dyakovo]

Evolution as a theory won't exist in the next 3 decades. People are waking up to the biggest fraud in the history of science.

Creationism?

And/or Intelligent Design.

[Great Nepal]

Evolution as a theory won't exist in the next 3 decades. People are waking up to the biggest fraud in the history of science. I mean if it was true, why do Evolutionists argue amongst themselves and have like 50 different versions. The truth is only one and doesn't need to be revised. Whereas a lie like Evolution needs constant revision.

No, science needs constant revision according to evidence that we have aviliable.
I know, bit harder than saying "god did it" and shutting up: but more accurate.

How many people here reject Evolution? I mean who in their right mind would accept that their great ancestor is an ape.

Every one of them?

Besides there's a ridiculously easy argument against Evolution. Two in fact. First of all, a living organism can only come from a living thing, not a non living organism. Second, lets assume that an animal evolved and had its genes mutated so that it was no longer the same organism, in order to reproduce and exist, it would need another organism that was similar enough to breed with to reproduce fertile offspring.

Your two great arguments against evolution has just proven you dont have a clue about evolution, at all and that you should go to primary school science lessons.
1. Nothing to do with evolution but, yes living organism can come from non living one.
2. Can people with blue eyes breed with those with brown ones? Then, your argument is invalid. Evolution doesn't work like pokemon. Edit: that and inter-species breeding.

[Mini Reddish]

Yeah, it seems pretty solid to me.

[Somali Caliphate]

Evolution as a theory won't exist in the next 3 decades.

Yes it will.

People are waking up to the biggest fraud in the history of science.

Yep. S'called creationism.

I mean if it was true, why do Evolutionists argue amongst themselves and have like 50 different versions.

Because that's how science works.

The truth is only one and doesn't need to be revised.

The truth does not need to be revised, no. But our understanding of it does, as we discover more.

Whereas a lie like Evolution needs constant revision.

It's not a lie.

How many people here reject Evolution?

Few.

I mean who in their right mind would accept that their great ancestor is an ape.

Most people.

And you are an ape. So am I. Humans are apes.

Besides there's a ridiculously easy argument against Evolution. Two in fact.

Easy =/= Good

First of all, a living organism can only come from a living thing, not a non living organism.

Incorrect. Shit's gotta start somewhere.

Second, lets assume that an animal evolved and had its genes mutated so that it was no longer the same organism, in order to reproduce and exist, it would need another organism that was similar enough to breed with to reproduce fertile offspring.

Species interbreed. Hence mules.

Are you actually suggesting that a living organism can come from a non-living thing? Even hard-core Evolutionists would never say that. One thing that Evolutionists and everyone in the mainstream scientific community agree on is that it is impossible for a living organism to come from a non-living thing. Period.

[Ifreann]

Are you actually suggesting that a living organism can come from a non-living thing? Even hard-core Evolutionists would never say that. One thing that Evolutionists and everyone in the mainstream scientific community agree on is that it is impossible for a living organism to come from a non-living thing. Period.

Liar.

[Great Nepal]

Are you actually suggesting that a living organism can come from a non-living thing? Even hard-core Evolutionists would never say that. One thing that Evolutionists and everyone in the mainstream scientific community agree on is that it is impossible for a living organism to come from a non-living thing. Period.

Yes, I suggest you go back to primary school biology class and this time actually pay attention. Miller experiment conclusively proved that organic stuff can easily come from non-organic stuff.

[Immoren]

Are you actually suggesting that a living organism can come from a non-living thing?

Evolution explains diversity of life. Not origin of life.

[Dyakovo]

Are you actually suggesting that a living organism can come from a non-living thing?¹ Even hard-core Evolutionists would never say that.² One thing that Evolutionists and everyone in the mainstream scientific community agree on is that it is impossible for a living organism to come from a non-living thing. Period.³

1: Yes.
2: There's no such thing as "Evolutionists".
3: Ignorance is bliss.

[New Dominion (Ancient)]

I do believe that species can change over time and the natural selection thing, but I don't believe that humans came from monkeys.

[Somali Caliphate]

Evolution as a theory won't exist in the next 3 decades. People are waking up to the biggest fraud in the history of science. I mean if it was true, why do Evolutionists argue amongst themselves and have like 50 different versions. The truth is only one and doesn't need to be revised. Whereas a lie like Evolution needs constant revision.

No, science needs constant revision according to evidence that we have aviliable.
I know, bit harder than saying "god did it" and shutting up: but more accurate.

How many people here reject Evolution? I mean who in their right mind would accept that their great ancestor is an ape.

Every one of them?

Besides there's a ridiculously easy argument against Evolution. Two in fact. First of all, a living organism can only come from a living thing, not a non living organism. Second, lets assume that an animal evolved and had its genes mutated so that it was no longer the same organism, in order to reproduce and exist, it would need another organism that was similar enough to breed with to reproduce fertile offspring.

Your two great arguments against evolution has just proven you dont have a clue about evolution, at all and that you should go to primary school science lessons.
1. Nothing to do with evolution but, yes living organism can come from non living one.
2. Can people with blue eyes breed with those with brown ones? Then, your argument is invalid. Evolution doesn't work like pokemon. Edit: that and inter-species breeding.

Nice try, but better luck next time. The Miller-Urey experiment was flawed on so many levels, the most basic being that assuming that a single protein formed somewhere on Earth, it would quickly degrade and cease to exist due to high temperatures, lots of UV radiation because of the lack of a ozone layer, etc). And your comment about people with different colored eyes breeding is just stupid. That's not what I meant. I said that two species that are completely dissimilar can not breed or produce fertile offspring for that matter. Can a spider and a lion breed? I thought not. And besides do you know how many proteins the human body produces and is composed of. The complexity of even a single cell belies Evolution, because it is impossible according to probability for even a single cell and the countless components, many of which we don't even know to assemble in PERFECT form. And even if one living cell somehow assembled, how would it live? Its not just going to reproduce because it isn't a bacteria and it depends on other cells to obtain energy (i.e glucose) to survive and not counting the infavourable conditions on Earth for the formation of life (high temperatures, a very weak ozone layer that couldn't protect any living thing from UV rays, etc). So any living cell that formed would have just died. So actually maybe its you that needs to go to science lessons and maybe cut out the arrogance whilst you're at it. I've shown that not even a single protein or living cell would have formed, so Evolution is already screwed.

[Southern Babylonia]

Your OP indicates you don't actually know the meaning of the word Theory. Evolution is a demonstrable fact, we've seen it happen, both through fossils and in lab conditions. The Theory of Evolution is what explains the mechanism. So, evolution is a fact and a theory, they're just referring to different things. Gravity is a fact, the Theory of Gravity explains that fact (badly).

As it happens. "theory" is the highest degree of belief in something the scientific community can give. "Fact" is a mathematical term.

[Mini Reddish]

I do believe that species can change over time and the natural selection thing, but I don't believe that humans came from monkeys.

I think the biggest problem with this is that when some people hear it, they think we came directly from monkeys, which is far from the actual case. There are lots of small subtle changes which occur over millions of years which bring us around to the point at which we are at today. It's inaccurate to think that we were literally born from monkeys, but our distant ancestors which were a tiny bit more human-like were born from monkeys instead.

[The Worldreich]

I mean if it was true, why do Evolutionists argue amongst themselves and have like 50 different versions.

Tell me how many religions there are and how many religious orientations each of them have. Are you going to complain about different verisions?

[Ifreann]

I do believe that species can change over time and the natural selection thing, but I don't believe that humans came from monkeys.

Our ancestors weren't quite monkeys, but all the same, what's your problem with that idea?

[Justorica]

Yes I do. And I'm a Roman Catholic. Sometimes it's hard arguing with family that humans can be evolved from apes and still allow for stuff from the bible to have happened.

[Kubrath]

Yes I do. And I'm a Roman Catholic. Sometimes it's hard arguing with family that humans can be evolved from apes and still allow for stuff from the bible to have happened.

So we did not come from dirt and ribs?

[Ifreann]

Your OP indicates you don't actually know the meaning of the word Theory. Evolution is a demonstrable fact, we've seen it happen, both through fossils and in lab conditions. The Theory of Evolution is what explains the mechanism. So, evolution is a fact and a theory, they're just referring to different things. Gravity is a fact, the Theory of Gravity explains that fact (badly).

As it happens. "theory" is the highest degree of belief in something the scientific community can give. "Fact" is a mathematical term.

Science also has facts. Theories explain them.

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Yes I do. And I'm a Roman Catholic. Sometimes it's hard arguing with family that humans can be evolved from apes and still allow for stuff from the bible to have happened.

If the fucking Pope can do it, you'll be fine.

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So actually maybe its you that needs to go to science lessons and maybe cut out the arrogance whilst you're at it. I've shown that not even a single protein or living cell would have formed, so Evolution is already screwed.

Sweetie, even if you're right about how life came about, that doesn't change a thing about evolution. Evolution has nothing, nothing, to do with the origins of life.

Wow, it's almost like science isn't a religion with nice convenient analogues for you to argue against.

[L Ron Cupboard]

Evolution as a theory won't exist in the next 3 decades. People are waking up to the biggest fraud in the history of science. I mean if it was true, why do Evolutionists argue amongst themselves and have like 50 different versions.

So because Islam and Christianity have so many sects claiming different versions of the truth, they must be false religions. Is that how your version of logic works?

[Farnhamia]

No, science needs constant revision according to evidence that we have aviliable.
I know, bit harder than saying "god did it" and shutting up: but more accurate.


Every one of them?


Your two great arguments against evolution has just proven you dont have a clue about evolution, at all and that you should go to primary school science lessons.
1. Nothing to do with evolution but, yes living organism can come from non living one.
2. Can people with blue eyes breed with those with brown ones? Then, your argument is invalid. Evolution doesn't work like pokemon. Edit: that and inter-species breeding.

Nice try, but better luck next time. The Miller-Urey experiment was flawed on so many levels, the most basic being that assuming that a single protein formed somewhere on Earth, it would quickly degrade and cease to exist due to high temperatures, lots of UV radiation because of the lack of a ozone layer, etc). And your comment about people with different colored eyes breeding is just stupid. That's not what I meant. I said that two species that are completely dissimilar can not breed or produce fertile offspring for that matter. Can a spider and a lion breed? I thought not. And besides do you know how many proteins the human body produces and is composed of. The complexity of even a single cell belies Evolution, because it is impossible according to probability for even a single cell and the countless components, many of which we don't even know to assemble in PERFECT form. And even if one living cell somehow assembled, how would it live? Its not just going to reproduce because it isn't a bacteria and it depends on other cells to obtain energy (i.e glucose) to survive and not counting the infavourable conditions on Earth for the formation of life (high temperatures, a very weak ozone layer that couldn't protect any living thing from UV rays, etc). So any living cell that formed would have just died. So actually maybe its you that needs to go to science lessons and maybe cut out the arrogance whilst you're at it. I've shown that not even a single protein or living cell would have formed, so Evolution is already screwed.

Your problem is right here: "... it is impossible according to probability for even a single cell and the countless components, many of which we don't even know to assemble in PERFECT form." Evolution does not say that cells suddenly appeared in PERFECT form. Creationism does, but not science. Science says that life built up from primitive elements.

And anyway, who's to say that the first cells weren't deep under water, where they'd be protected from those nasty UV rays, or under a rock? They don't have to be sitting on the surface waiting to be fried. The same goes for the first amino acids.

[Dyakovo]

I do believe that species can change over time and the natural selection thing, but I don't believe that humans came from monkeys.

That's good, because they didn't...
Although humans and monkeys do have a common ancestor.

[SaintB]

I believe in evolution, its a demonstrable fact. I believe that the current accepted theory of why it happens is about as good as we are ever going to get as well.

[Immoren]

[ I said that two species that are completely dissimilar can not breed or produce fertile offspring for that matter. Can a spider and a lion breed? I thought not.

I nominate SM for Golden Crocoduck award 2012. NSG edition

[Salandriagado]

Evolution as a theory won't exist in the next 3 decades.

Bullshit.

People are waking up to the biggest fraud in the history of science.

No, we've known that creationism is bullshit for a long time.

I mean if it was true, why do Evolutionists argue amongst themselves and have like 50 different versions.

Because that's how science works.

The truth is only one and doesn't need to be revised.

No, bullshit is something you can make up once then stick with.

Whereas a lie like Evolution needs constant revision.

When the facts change, I change my opinion. What do do you?

How many people here reject Evolution? I mean who in their right mind would accept that their great ancestor is an ape.

Everybody.

Besides there's a ridiculously easy argument against Evolution. Three in fact. First of all, a living organism can only come from a living thing, not a non living organism.

Not true. Abiogenesis works.

Second, lets assume that an animal evolved and had its genes mutated so that it was no longer the same organism, in order to reproduce and exist, it would need another organism that was similar enough to breed with to reproduce fertile offspring.

Assumes drastic changes of single individuals (which is bullshit), rather than gradual changes in populations (which isn't).

Third, if Evolution is indeed real, why have we never observed it now or at other times in the past.

We have observed it. I have personally observed it.

Are you actually suggesting that a living organism can come from a non-living thing?

Yes. Self-replicators certainly can, and living organisms are simply combinations of self replicators.

Even hard-core Evolutionists would never say that.

Why not? It's a fact.

One thing that Evolutionists and everyone in the mainstream scientific community agree on is that it is impossible for a living organism to come from a non-living thing. Period.

You are lying. Don't do that.

I do believe that species can change over time and the natural selection thing, but I don't believe that humans came from monkeys.

Good. We didn't. We do, however, share a common ancestor with them.

Nice try, but better luck next time. The Miller-Urey experiment was flawed on so many levels, the most basic being that assuming that a single protein formed somewhere on Earth, it would quickly degrade and cease to exist due to high temperatures, lots of UV radiation because of the lack of a ozone layer, etc).

Not true at all, in any way, shape or form. There were, however, some issues with the Miller-Urey experiment, namely that it didn't accurately reflect certain conditions of early earth. Later experiments, with those problems fixed, actually had better results than Miller-Urey.

And your comment about people with different colored eyes breeding is just stupid. That's not what I meant.

Yes it is. You just don't understand what you said.

I said that two species that are completely dissimilar can not breed or produce fertile offspring for that matter. Can a spider and a lion breed? I thought not.

Irrelevant. Speciation has also been observed.

And besides do you know how many proteins the human body produces and is composed of

Yes. I also know (or at least did know, I might need to look a few of them up - it's been a while) how they are formed.

The complexity of even a single cell belies Evolution, because it is impossible according to probability for even a single cell and the countless components, many of which we don't even know to assemble in PERFECT form.

No it isn't. Not even slightly. Additionally, cells aren't perfect. They have loads of shitty features.

And even if one living cell somehow assembled, how would it live? Its not just going to reproduce because it isn't a bacteria and it depends on other cells to obtain energy (i.e glucose) to survive and not counting the infavourable conditions on Earth for the formation of life (high temperatures, a very weak ozone layer that couldn't protect any living thing from UV rays, etc).

Erm, wut? Of course it's going to reproduce. And it doesn't rely on shit. The early cells likely simply acquired what they needed from the environment around them. Additionally, you know what does a really, really good job of reflecting UV rays? Being significantly under water. You know, like those early cells.

So any living cell that formed would have just died. So actually maybe its you that needs to go to science lessons and maybe cut out the arrogance whilst you're at it. I've shown that not even a single protein or living cell would have formed, so Evolution is already screwed.

You haven't shown shit. Peer reviewed source please.