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The Not So Communal Kommune
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Postby The Not So Communal Kommune » Tue Nov 06, 2012 3:15 pm

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Never said they couldn't, I just find it humorous when everyone here bashes FOX endlessly, then admits to watching Chris Matthews and MSNBC.

They don't claim that Chris Matthews is unbiased. That's the difference. FOX News is not news. Most of it isn't even true.


Like what?

And yes. After the first debate they called him unbiased.
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Postby The Tiger Kingdom » Tue Nov 06, 2012 3:15 pm

The Not So Communal Kommune wrote:
The Tiger Kingdom wrote:Such aaaaaaaaaaaaas...?


His taxes.

That's...a bit of an old chestnut. Consensus is it's a bit...sleazy...what he did to get around taxing, but it's not illegal. Potentially distasteful, though.
The Not So Communal Kommune wrote:Ethics violations?

That's an actual charge. I don't know how much it has to it, but it's kinda immaterial as it's too late to affect the election anyway.
The Not So Communal Kommune wrote:Killed a man's wife?

Have not heard that one yet.
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Postby The Emerald Dawn » Tue Nov 06, 2012 3:16 pm

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The Emerald Dawn wrote:Boston Sour:
Whisky, lemon juice, sugar, egg white. Shaken. Touch it with ice and I'll break your hand.

I had an actor friend who was a bartender (SURPRISE!) who at cast parties would mix the drinks. When he asked me what I wanted I would go, "Whatever easiest for you, man." He'd give me the drinks and explain exactly what it is and what went in it and I'd wander off going, "Crazy blue stuff, got it."

Unfortunately before alcohol was able to make its mark on me I got a hold of sticky green locally grown Northern California weed. Booze never stood a chance.

See, I've never smoked anything. Tobacco, MJ, nothing. I'm physically incapable of being drunk, so I drink.

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Postby Jocabia » Tue Nov 06, 2012 3:16 pm

The Not So Communal Kommune wrote:
The Tiger Kingdom wrote:Such aaaaaaaaaaaaas...?


His taxes. Ethics violations? Killed a man's wife?

Uh, what?
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Postby AiliailiA » Tue Nov 06, 2012 3:16 pm

I found the 'shop funny. And you know, maybe it's best you can see it is a 'shop.

It would be sad for someone to get five kids involved AND buy a Romney shirt just for that joke ...
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Postby The Not So Communal Kommune » Tue Nov 06, 2012 3:17 pm

The Tiger Kingdom wrote:
The Not So Communal Kommune wrote:
His taxes.

That's...a bit of an old chestnut. Consensus is it's a bit...sleazy...what he did to get around taxing, but it's not illegal. Potentially distasteful, though.
The Not So Communal Kommune wrote:Ethics violations?

That's an actual charge. I don't know how much it has to it, but it's kinda immaterial as it's too late to affect the election anyway.
The Not So Communal Kommune wrote:Killed a man's wife?

Have not heard that one yet.


At least you admitted to the taxes thing.

It has no evidence and is just taking time from the court.

Does Joe Soptic ring a bell?
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Postby Grave_n_idle » Tue Nov 06, 2012 3:17 pm

The Tiger Kingdom wrote:
The Not So Communal Kommune wrote:
His taxes.

That's...a bit of an old chestnut. Consensus is it's a bit...sleazy...what he did to get around taxing, but it's not illegal. Potentially distasteful, though.
The Not So Communal Kommune wrote:Ethics violations?

That's an actual charge. I don't know how much it has to it, but it's kinda immaterial as it's too late to affect the election anyway.
The Not So Communal Kommune wrote:Killed a man's wife?

Have not heard that one yet.


And neither the issue of Romney's taxes, not the reports of ethics violations, are 'conspiracy theories'.
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Postby Jocabia » Tue Nov 06, 2012 3:17 pm

The Not So Communal Kommune wrote:
Jocabia wrote:They don't claim that Chris Matthews is unbiased. That's the difference. FOX News is not news. Most of it isn't even true.


Like what?

And yes. After the first debate they called him unbiased.

Who did? About what?
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Postby AiliailiA » Tue Nov 06, 2012 3:17 pm

The Emerald Dawn wrote:
Cannot think of a name wrote:I had an actor friend who was a bartender (SURPRISE!) who at cast parties would mix the drinks. When he asked me what I wanted I would go, "Whatever easiest for you, man." He'd give me the drinks and explain exactly what it is and what went in it and I'd wander off going, "Crazy blue stuff, got it."

Unfortunately before alcohol was able to make its mark on me I got a hold of sticky green locally grown Northern California weed. Booze never stood a chance.

See, I've never smoked anything. Tobacco, MJ, nothing. I'm physically incapable of being drunk, so I drink.


We drunks have a name for that. We call your sort "a waste of booze".
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Postby The Not So Communal Kommune » Tue Nov 06, 2012 3:18 pm

Jocabia wrote:
The Not So Communal Kommune wrote:
His taxes. Ethics violations? Killed a man's wife?

Uh, what?


Ummmm.

Talking about him not paying enough, cheating on Morman tithes. There was a thread on this.

UAW is wasting court time on this.

Joe Soptic?
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Postby Jocabia » Tue Nov 06, 2012 3:18 pm

The Not So Communal Kommune wrote:
The Tiger Kingdom wrote:That's...a bit of an old chestnut. Consensus is it's a bit...sleazy...what he did to get around taxing, but it's not illegal. Potentially distasteful, though.

That's an actual charge. I don't know how much it has to it, but it's kinda immaterial as it's too late to affect the election anyway.

Have not heard that one yet.


At least you admitted to the taxes thing.

It has no evidence and is just taking time from the court.

Does Joe Soptic ring a bell?

Admitted what? That it's sleazy? That it wasn't illegal. People weren't claiming he broke the law. They were claiming he is a perfect example of why the law needs to be changed.
Sgt Toomey wrote:Come to think of it, it would make more sense to hate him for being black. At least its half true..
JJ Place wrote:Sure, the statistics are that a gun is more likely to harm a family member than a criminal

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Postby The Not So Communal Kommune » Tue Nov 06, 2012 3:18 pm

Jocabia wrote:
The Not So Communal Kommune wrote:
Like what?

And yes. After the first debate they called him unbiased.

Who did? About what?


Rachel Maddow. They called Chris Mathews unbiased.
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Postby The Not So Communal Kommune » Tue Nov 06, 2012 3:19 pm

Jocabia wrote:
The Not So Communal Kommune wrote:
At least you admitted to the taxes thing.

It has no evidence and is just taking time from the court.

Does Joe Soptic ring a bell?

Admitted what? That it's sleazy? That it wasn't illegal. People weren't claiming he broke the law. They were claiming he is a perfect example of why the law needs to be changed.


No. Talking about what he is hiding.
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Postby Cannot think of a name » Tue Nov 06, 2012 3:20 pm

The Not So Communal Kommune wrote:
Jocabia wrote:Who did? About what?


Rachel Maddow. They called Chris Mathews unbiased.

Could you use complete sentences so I can figure out what the fuck you are talking about?
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Postby The Emerald Dawn » Tue Nov 06, 2012 3:21 pm

Ailiailia wrote:
The Emerald Dawn wrote:See, I've never smoked anything. Tobacco, MJ, nothing. I'm physically incapable of being drunk, so I drink.


We drunks have a name for that. We call your sort "a waste of booze".

A man can enjoy the taste and breeze of alcohol without getting, as the kids on the street say, "Dog shit buggered".

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Postby The Not So Communal Kommune » Tue Nov 06, 2012 3:21 pm

Cannot think of a name wrote:
The Not So Communal Kommune wrote:
Rachel Maddow. They called Chris Mathews unbiased.

Could you use complete sentences so I can figure out what the fuck you are talking about?


Rachel Maddow called Chris Mathews unbiased.
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Postby TaQud » Tue Nov 06, 2012 3:22 pm

Cannot think of a name wrote:
The Not So Communal Kommune wrote:
Rachel Maddow. They called Chris Mathews unbiased.

Could you use complete sentences so I can figure out what the fuck you are talking about?

who did?
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about what?
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Postby Gauthier » Tue Nov 06, 2012 3:22 pm

The Not So Communal Kommune wrote:
Jocabia wrote:Who did? About what?


Rachel Maddow. They called Chris Mathews unbiased.


Also needs sauce.
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Postby Jocabia » Tue Nov 06, 2012 3:23 pm

The Not So Communal Kommune wrote:
Jocabia wrote:Uh, what?


Ummmm.

Talking about him not paying enough, cheating on Morman tithes. There was a thread on this.

UAW is wasting court time on this.

Joe Soptic?

He didn't pay enough. That's not a conspiracy. He paid less than I did. He paid less than everyone who works, because payroll taxes are more than he pays.

The charges are also not a conspiracy.

Joe Soptic's wife died. That happened. They claimed it was related to his losing his insurance as a result of Bain's treatment. That's not a conspiracy. You may disagree with it (as did many of the anchors on MSNBC, in fact), but it's not a conspiracy. The facts of it were true. It's simply a question of whether or not those facts lead to the conclusion suggested by the ad.

I think if you don't know what "conspiracy" means that you should stop using the word.
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Postby Cannot think of a name » Tue Nov 06, 2012 3:23 pm

The Not So Communal Kommune wrote:
Cannot think of a name wrote:Could you use complete sentences so I can figure out what the fuck you are talking about?


Rachel Maddow called Chris Mathews unbiased.

Okay. Let's just take this at face value for the time being.

And this proves...?
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Postby SpudEmpire » Tue Nov 06, 2012 3:23 pm

I sincerely hope the Republicans lose tonight so the sane members will get off their collective asses and do something about the teabagging douchebags that have hijacked the party.

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Postby The Not So Communal Kommune » Tue Nov 06, 2012 3:23 pm

Gauthier wrote:
The Not So Communal Kommune wrote:
Rachel Maddow. They called Chris Mathews unbiased.


Also needs sauce.


It could take a while. Have to dig into youtube.
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Postby Jocabia » Tue Nov 06, 2012 3:24 pm

The Not So Communal Kommune wrote:
Cannot think of a name wrote:Could you use complete sentences so I can figure out what the fuck you are talking about?


Rachel Maddow called Chris Mathews unbiased.

What is he unbiased about? What was she referring to when she said he was unbiased?
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Postby Serrland » Tue Nov 06, 2012 3:26 pm

The Emerald Dawn wrote:
Ailiailia wrote:
We drunks have a name for that. We call your sort "a waste of booze".

A man can enjoy the taste and breeze of alcohol without getting, as the kids on the street say, "Dog shit buggered".


A man can also offer three names to the Many-Faced God :P

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Postby The Not So Communal Kommune » Tue Nov 06, 2012 3:27 pm

Jocabia wrote:
The Not So Communal Kommune wrote:
Ummmm.

Talking about him not paying enough, cheating on Morman tithes. There was a thread on this.

UAW is wasting court time on this.

Joe Soptic?

He didn't pay enough. That's not a conspiracy. He paid less than I did. He paid less than everyone who works, because payroll taxes are more than he pays.

The charges are also not a conspiracy.

Joe Soptic's wife died. That happened. They claimed it was related to his losing his insurance as a result of Bain's treatment. That's not a conspiracy. You may disagree with it (as did many of the anchors on MSNBC, in fact), but it's not a conspiracy. The facts of it were true. It's simply a question of whether or not those facts lead to the conclusion suggested by the ad.

I think if you don't know what "conspiracy" means that you should stop using the word.


In regard to Joe Soptic, his wife still had a job that provided insurance for her until 2003. Romney left Bain in 1999. The steel mill was closed in 2001. Explain.
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