And Here We Go: Presidential Election Day 2012

[Zaras]

Isn't calling Hippo "Finn-boy" an insult to boys who are Finns?

Obviously it's an Adventure Time shoutout.

So, that makes Hippo... the Ice King?

He sure as fuck isn't Marceline, PB or LSP.

[Zaras]

25-year old transgendered pansexuals

God damnit Hippo quit being transphobic. You're tellin' me you're in favour of gay marriage but bash transgendered people like it's nothing? WTF.

[The Land Fomerly Known as Ligerplace]

Obviously it's an Adventure Time shoutout.

So, that makes Hippo... the Ice King?

He sure as fuck isn't Marceline, PB or LSP.

I would say Lemongrab.

[Zaras]

So, that makes Hippo... the Ice King?

He sure as fuck isn't Marceline, PB or LSP.

I would say Lemongrab.

Yeah, that's more accurate. The Lich is a bit too much of a stretch.

[The Archregimancy]

<snip>

Careful, rebutting Hippo's a dangerous business in these here parts. Referencing Finland as a non-offensive part of a wholly logical argument is as well, apparently.

Neither of these points is true, and it's time we put a stop to this misconception.

A well-argued rebuttal along the lines of ASB's is perfectly acceptable.

'Rebuttals' which consist solely of posting vaguely gloating 'butt-hurt' picspam and/or only referencing Hippostania's nationality, as if his nationality alone disqualified him from having an opinion, are less OK.

I hope that clarifies matters.

[Revolutopia]

25-year old transgendered pansexuals

God damnit Hippo quit being transphobic. You're tellin' me you're in favour of gay marriage but bash transgendered people like it's nothing? WTF.

I find it amusing as he is a Brony, and that is pretty much an insult one commonly see thrown out at them.

Note, I don't have anything against Bronies.

[Franklin Delano Bluth]

And what are these principles? Please, enlighten us with your Finnish knowledge.

Sure.

Freedom. Freedom to start a business

In other words, the "freedom" to hold a roomful of people hostage at gunpoint.

In other words, not real freedom.

Why do you hate freedom and the principles upon which the United States was founded so much?

[Zaras]

as if his nationality alone disqualified him from having an opinion, are less OK.

Ohhhhhhhhhh, now I get that. I don't remember insulting people for being from certain places, but I do remember mocking them because certain places make them sound sillier and lacking in self-awareness when ranting about how much those places suck/how much country X is better.

Like, uh, protip: being from a Scandinavian country makes you sound silly when you're crowing about how much better the USA is.

[Zaras]

God damnit Hippo quit being transphobic. You're tellin' me you're in favour of gay marriage but bash transgendered people like it's nothing? WTF.

I find it amusing as he is a Brony, and that is pretty much an insult one commonly see thrown out at them.

Note, I don't have anything against Bronies.

That's a common insult? I've mostly heard pedophilia-based ones.

[The Land Fomerly Known as Ligerplace]

God damnit Hippo quit being transphobic. You're tellin' me you're in favour of gay marriage but bash transgendered people like it's nothing? WTF.

I find it amusing as he is a Brony, and that is pretty much an insult one commonly see thrown out at them.

Note, I don't have anything against Bronies.

Why not?

Not even because of the show, just because they mauled the word "bro".

[Zaras]

I find it amusing as he is a Brony, and that is pretty much an insult one commonly see thrown out at them.

Note, I don't have anything against Bronies.

Why not?

Not even because of the show, just because they mauled the word "bro".

Eh. Still catchier than "Pegasisters".

[The Land Fomerly Known as Ligerplace]

Why not?

Not even because of the show, just because they mauled the word "bro".

Eh. Still catchier than "Pegasisters".

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[Revolutopia]

I find it amusing as he is a Brony, and that is pretty much an insult one commonly see thrown out at them.

Note, I don't have anything against Bronies.

Why not?

Not even because of the show, just because they mauled the word "bro".

If anything I would hold their use of "bro" against them as that is the douchiest word in the English language.

[Reploid Productions]

*pokes* Unless either of the candidates have made ponies relevant to the election, brony mod recommends taking that conversation over to the pony thread in A&F =p

[The Emerald Dawn]

*pokes* Unless either of the candidates have made ponies relevant to the election, brony mod recommends taking that conversation over to the pony thread in A&F =p

Willard made ponies relevant with regards to his wife's MS.

[Vettrera]

In my personal opinion, this election proves that the Republican Party has to change if they want to be seen as a viable option. This election was the last one that could be won by the "traditional white man". Blacks, Latinos, and Women are becoming more prominent in the election process and the republican party will need to adapt. They can no longer be seen as a political party that is closed off to women, gays, people of color, and those who are not christian. America has substituted some of their morals for liberties, and if the Republican Party is not willing to change, the voters will not stay Red. I think a commentator on Good Morning America said it best: " The Republican Party is a 'Mad Men' party in a 'Modern Family' America."

[Gaveo]

In my personal opinion, this election proves that the Republican Party has to change if they want to be seen as a viable option. This election was the last one that could be won by the "traditional white man". Blacks, Latinos, and Women are becoming more prominent in the election process and the republican party will need to adapt. They can no longer be seen as a political party that is closed off to women, gays, people of color, and those who are not christian. America has substituted some of their morals for liberties, and if the Republican Party is not willing to change, the voters will not stay Red. I think a commentator on Good Morning America said it best: " The Republican Party is a 'Mad Men' party in a 'Modern Family' America."

Are you saying that the Republicans should go more to the center? If that is so that will only make the Left win in the end. Plus the Republicans are getting more diverse, with Latinos becoming the main stars in the GOP.

[The Emerald Dawn]

In my personal opinion, this election proves that the Republican Party has to change if they want to be seen as a viable option. This election was the last one that could be won by the "traditional white man". Blacks, Latinos, and Women are becoming more prominent in the election process and the republican party will need to adapt. They can no longer be seen as a political party that is closed off to women, gays, people of color, and those who are not christian. America has substituted some of their morals for liberties, and if the Republican Party is not willing to change, the voters will not stay Red. I think a commentator on Good Morning America said it best: " The Republican Party is a 'Mad Men' party in a 'Modern Family' America."

Are you saying that the Republicans should go more to the center? If that is so that will only make the Left win in the end. Plus the Republicans are getting more diverse, with Latinos becoming the main stars in the GOP.

The same Latino voters who went 75-23 against the GOP?

[Norsklow]

Which makes me wonder: has anybody here seen any statistics on the LGBT vote?

[Khadgar]

In my personal opinion, this election proves that the Republican Party has to change if they want to be seen as a viable option. This election was the last one that could be won by the "traditional white man". Blacks, Latinos, and Women are becoming more prominent in the election process and the republican party will need to adapt. They can no longer be seen as a political party that is closed off to women, gays, people of color, and those who are not christian. America has substituted some of their morals for liberties, and if the Republican Party is not willing to change, the voters will not stay Red. I think a commentator on Good Morning America said it best: " The Republican Party is a 'Mad Men' party in a 'Modern Family' America."

Are you saying that the Republicans should go more to the center? If that is so that will only make the Left win in the end. Plus the Republicans are getting more diverse, with Latinos becoming the main stars in the GOP.

Numbers don't bear that out at all. Latinos went overwhelming for Obama. The Republican party has been scapegoating latinos as job stealers for years. Unless they radically change their tack, they're boned.

[Gaveo]

Are you saying that the Republicans should go more to the center? If that is so that will only make the Left win in the end. Plus the Republicans are getting more diverse, with Latinos becoming the main stars in the GOP.

The same Latino voters who went 75-23 against the GOP?

Because they didn't put Rubio! If they did the GOP would have won.

[The Land Fomerly Known as Ligerplace]

In my personal opinion, this election proves that the Republican Party has to change if they want to be seen as a viable option. This election was the last one that could be won by the "traditional white man". Blacks, Latinos, and Women are becoming more prominent in the election process and the republican party will need to adapt. They can no longer be seen as a political party that is closed off to women, gays, people of color, and those who are not christian. America has substituted some of their morals for liberties, and if the Republican Party is not willing to change, the voters will not stay Red. I think a commentator on Good Morning America said it best: " The Republican Party is a 'Mad Men' party in a 'Modern Family' America."

Are you saying that the Republicans should go more to the center? If that is so that will only make the Left win in the end. Plus the Republicans are getting more diverse, with Latinos becoming the main stars in the GOP.

You need actual inclusion, not a pretty face now and then.

By inclusion, I mean a demographic that actually has a reason to vote conservative.

And I'm sorry, but yeah, you will have to head to the center, but in retrospect you moved right too damn far for no practical reason anyway.

[Vettrera]

In my personal opinion, this election proves that the Republican Party has to change if they want to be seen as a viable option. This election was the last one that could be won by the "traditional white man". Blacks, Latinos, and Women are becoming more prominent in the election process and the republican party will need to adapt. They can no longer be seen as a political party that is closed off to women, gays, people of color, and those who are not christian. America has substituted some of their morals for liberties, and if the Republican Party is not willing to change, the voters will not stay Red. I think a commentator on Good Morning America said it best: " The Republican Party is a 'Mad Men' party in a 'Modern Family' America."

Are you saying that the Republicans should go more to the center? If that is so that will only make the Left win in the end. Plus the Republicans are getting more diverse, with Latinos becoming the main stars in the GOP.

No but the Republicans will need to become a party more focused on the economy, and less interested when it comes to social-issues (if not more open). Because currently, it is not necessarily their viewpoints that are causing them to seem unappealing, but the way they express them. And the nation is getting more diverse faster than the Republican Party is becoming more diverse. Though they are gaining Latino support, women/blacks are not seen as huge standouts there, as the Democratic Party almost seems as it's 'Diversity Party USA'.

[Euroslavia]

In my personal opinion, this election proves that the Republican Party has to change if they want to be seen as a viable option. This election was the last one that could be won by the "traditional white man". Blacks, Latinos, and Women are becoming more prominent in the election process and the republican party will need to adapt. They can no longer be seen as a political party that is closed off to women, gays, people of color, and those who are not christian. America has substituted some of their morals for liberties, and if the Republican Party is not willing to change, the voters will not stay Red. I think a commentator on Good Morning America said it best: " The Republican Party is a 'Mad Men' party in a 'Modern Family' America."

Are you saying that the Republicans should go more to the center? If that is so that will only make the Left win in the end. Plus the Republicans are getting more diverse, with Latinos becoming the main stars in the GOP.

Latinos may be becoming the stars in the GOP, but Latino voters are overwhelmingly leaning towards having voted for Obama. It shows a sharp disconnect between Latino voters and the Latinos that are part of the GOP.
http://www.cnn.com/election/2012/result ... exit-polls

[The Emerald Dawn]

The same Latino voters who went 75-23 against the GOP?

Because they didn't put Rubio! If they did the GOP would have won.

I'd give Latino voters more credit than that. Just because Marco Rubio *looks* like "one of them" doesn't mean that they'll vote for him. Blacks didn't vote for Obama because he was Black. They voted for him because they know the GOP hates minorities. The GOP has to change to stay relevant.