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Postby Esternial » Sat Nov 03, 2012 6:57 am

Normandium wrote:I'd definitely prefer marijuana to be legalized, bongs remove quite a lot of the tar from the smoke and pot brownies are even better. Joints, on the other hand, I don't care for, I feel that just the other forms of it should be legalized

Pot brownies tend to have a bigger impact.

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Postby Ifreann » Sat Nov 03, 2012 6:58 am

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Ifreann wrote:Speak for yourself, our parliament building has a bar in it.

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damn.

Ostensibly it's for entertaining foreign dignitaries and guests of parliamentarians, but yeah, I wouldn't say no to a few pints after a bit of running the country.

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Postby Vitaphone Racing » Sat Nov 03, 2012 6:58 am

Ifreann wrote:
Vitaphone Racing wrote:...


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damn.

Ostensibly it's for entertaining foreign dignitaries and guests of parliamentarians, but yeah, I wouldn't say no to a few pints after a bit of running the country.

Or before. It would explain certain bits of legislation.
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Postby Ifreann » Sat Nov 03, 2012 6:59 am

Vitaphone Racing wrote:
Ifreann wrote:Ostensibly it's for entertaining foreign dignitaries and guests of parliamentarians, but yeah, I wouldn't say no to a few pints after a bit of running the country.

Or before. It would explain certain bits of legislation.

This is also possible.

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Postby Esternial » Sat Nov 03, 2012 7:02 am

Using possible health risks as an argument against marijuana is completely pointless, considering a lot of medicines also pose health risks. The pros outweigh the potential cons.

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Postby Halloween Karaoke » Sat Nov 03, 2012 7:10 am

Esternial wrote:Using possible health risks as an argument against marijuana is completely pointless, considering a lot of medicines also pose health risks.


No argument from me.

The pros outweigh the potential cons.


Excellent. Legalize prostitution then?
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Postby Ifreann » Sat Nov 03, 2012 7:11 am

Halloween Karaoke wrote:
Esternial wrote:Using possible health risks as an argument against marijuana is completely pointless, considering a lot of medicines also pose health risks.


No argument from me.

The pros outweigh the potential cons.


Excellent. Legalize prostitution then?

Is that a strain of marijuana?
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Postby Samozaryadnyastan » Sat Nov 03, 2012 7:14 am

No, because then smoking weed would become prohibitively expensive.
The done thing in England is to smoke joints, not blunts. It saves colossal amounts of money by comparison, and you still get just as high.
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Postby Renegade Island » Sat Nov 03, 2012 7:15 am

Halloween Karaoke wrote:
Esternial wrote:Using possible health risks as an argument against marijuana is completely pointless, considering a lot of medicines also pose health risks.


No argument from me.

The pros outweigh the potential cons.


Excellent. Legalize prostitution then?



If prostitution were legalized worldwide, it would immediately implode the massive black market human trafficking economy.

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Postby Rubrum Natio » Sat Nov 03, 2012 7:15 am

No. I understand that marijuana has less side effects than tobacco products in all, but people walking around 'high' would be very annoying. Cigarettes give a buzz, yes. But only the first couple of times in the first place. The last thing we need is people going around smoking a drug that gives people a high causing our country's work effort to suffer and for our children to be poorly influenced by elders actions that use the drug and may get 'too high.' I believe both should be banned. But I'd rather have tobacco legal than marijuana*
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Postby Ifreann » Sat Nov 03, 2012 7:16 am

Renegade Island wrote:
Halloween Karaoke wrote:
No argument from me.



Excellent. Legalize prostitution then?



If prostitution were legalized worldwide, it would immediately implode the massive black market human trafficking economy.

Not really, no.

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Postby Samozaryadnyastan » Sat Nov 03, 2012 7:18 am

Rubrum Natio wrote:No. I understand that marijuana has less side effects than tobacco products in all, but people walking around 'high' would be very annoying. Cigarettes give a buzz, yes. But only the first couple of times in the first place. The last thing we need is people going around smoking a drug that gives people a high causing our country's work effort to suffer and for our children to be poorly influenced by elders actions that use the drug and may get 'too high.' I believe both should be banned. But I'd rather have tobacco legal than marijuana*

Oh please, people do that anyway.
It's actually really funny to see people wandering around high. Every takeaway staff member I've been to while high with mates has had a little giggle at our state.
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Postby Horsefish » Sat Nov 03, 2012 7:18 am

Samozaryadnyastan wrote:No, because then smoking weed would become prohibitively expensive.
The done thing in England is to smoke joints, not blunts. It saves colossal amounts of money by comparison, and you still get just as high.


Not just as high, you just spread it over a longer period.

Rather than smoking one blunt and being completely baked for around 3 hours before sobering up you smoke 3 joints and stay stoned for a lot longer.
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Postby Samozaryadnyastan » Sat Nov 03, 2012 7:20 am

Horsefish wrote:
Samozaryadnyastan wrote:No, because then smoking weed would become prohibitively expensive.
The done thing in England is to smoke joints, not blunts. It saves colossal amounts of money by comparison, and you still get just as high.


Not just as high, you just spread it over a longer period.

Rather than smoking one blunt and being completely baked for around 3 hours before sobering up you smoke 3 joints and stay stoned for a lot longer.

And you've still got about two thirds of your weed left in the baggie, rather than all of it gone.
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Postby Vitaphone Racing » Sat Nov 03, 2012 7:20 am

Samozaryadnyastan wrote:
Rubrum Natio wrote:No. I understand that marijuana has less side effects than tobacco products in all, but people walking around 'high' would be very annoying. Cigarettes give a buzz, yes. But only the first couple of times in the first place. The last thing we need is people going around smoking a drug that gives people a high causing our country's work effort to suffer and for our children to be poorly influenced by elders actions that use the drug and may get 'too high.' I believe both should be banned. But I'd rather have tobacco legal than marijuana*

Oh please, people do that anyway.
It's actually really funny to see people wandering around high. Every takeaway staff member I've been to while high with mates has had a little giggle at our state.

I don't know, back when I worked in fast food I remember smiling politely at people who were either smashed or blazed and then wandering around the corner to loudly proclaim what annoying arseholes they were.

No offence though ;) But Maccy D's is serious business. Customers must be srs about food.
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Postby Rubrum Natio » Sat Nov 03, 2012 7:21 am

Samozaryadnyastan wrote:
Rubrum Natio wrote:No. I understand that marijuana has less side effects than tobacco products in all, but people walking around 'high' would be very annoying. Cigarettes give a buzz, yes. But only the first couple of times in the first place. The last thing we need is people going around smoking a drug that gives people a high causing our country's work effort to suffer and for our children to be poorly influenced by elders actions that use the drug and may get 'too high.' I believe both should be banned. But I'd rather have tobacco legal than marijuana*

Oh please, people do that anyway.
It's actually really funny to see people wandering around high. Every takeaway staff member I've been to while high with mates has had a little giggle at our state.


The fact that people already do just make it all the more shameful. Why escalate something instead of prevent it? It's funny yes I agree :lol:
I mean, if it's going to be legal at all it should stay out of the workplace for sure along with politics.
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Postby Horsefish » Sat Nov 03, 2012 7:21 am

Samozaryadnyastan wrote:And you've still got about two thirds of your weed left in the baggie, rather than all of it gone.

It is a lot nicer. Blunts are nice as a treat every now and again though.

Rubrum Natio wrote:No. I understand that marijuana has less side effects than tobacco products in all, but people walking around 'high' would be very annoying. Cigarettes give a buzz, yes. But only the first couple of times in the first place. The last thing we need is people going around smoking a drug that gives people a high causing our country's work effort to suffer and for our children to be poorly influenced by elders actions that use the drug and may get 'too high.' I believe both should be banned. But I'd rather have tobacco legal than marijuana*


People walk around drunk all the time. People who are high are a lot less irritating, less loud and not aggressive.
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Postby Ifreann » Sat Nov 03, 2012 7:22 am

Rubrum Natio wrote:
Samozaryadnyastan wrote:Oh please, people do that anyway.
It's actually really funny to see people wandering around high. Every takeaway staff member I've been to while high with mates has had a little giggle at our state.


The fact that people already do just make it all the more shameful. Why escalate something instead of prevent it? It's funny yes I agree :lol:
I mean, if it's going to be legal it should stay out of the workplace for sure along with politics.

Well obviously. You think people can go to work drunk or fucked up on prescription drugs as it is now? Course not.

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Postby F451 » Sat Nov 03, 2012 7:22 am

Like what others have already pointed out, I think adults in general are responsible enough to not try marijuana or tobacco for kicks and giggles. I would keep them both legal. However, where I'm from, there's a ban on smoking in public and I quite like that.
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Postby Evil Lord Bane » Sat Nov 03, 2012 7:23 am

Kaesar the invincible wrote:Prohibition does not work if cigarettes are legal at least we can regulate their production, same with cannabis (weed). The government will set up laws about the amount of THC or nicotine allowed in each cigarette or blunt or dime bag or what have you and will make sure the bags or cigarettes are not laced as well as issuing a federal warning and taxing this profitable venture. In the end people will smoke no matter what and we cant swap out one illegal substance for another. Having all softcore drugs legalized will drastically increase income and decrease crime. because it would lower the cost of drugs (since we no longer have to smuggle our weed from Mexico or grow it secretly in tiny patches in wooded up areas) as well as remove a major source of income from gangs and mobs. Eventually they will have to rely solely on hardcore drugs like cocaine or heroin or methamphetamine and we can just tighten the laws and arrest the traffickers (since these drugs are actually dangerous and highly addictive unlike weed) while setting up more rehabs using the tax money we got from the softcore drugs like weed or alcohol or even cigarettes (yes I know many people die from using cigarettes but they are too widespread to legalize people will not abandon cigarettes no matter what we do)

also remember how we were taught that weed is the gateway drug? if you buy your weed from a gas station nobody will pressure you to try heroin because they don't sell any and the only illegal drugs sold will be hardcore ones except only junkies will buy from them and if someone is stupid enough to STILL get addicted then we can rehabilitate them and put their dealer in prison.


You make some very valid arguments. The problem lye in the fact, like with alcohol, pills etc, people are still going to get into there cars and harm others, second hand smoke will always be harmful. You can make EVERYTHING illegal and people will still find a way to buy it. Where I live, you get jail time, loss of driving privileges and relieved of about $20000 in fines, legal fees, surcharges, etc (when you factor everything in) for driving drunk. People still do it, as do they go out and buy pot, which is illegal. You can make all the laws and conditions you want on anything and people still do it, which makes this whole argument moot, you just swapping one underground market for another.
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Postby Samozaryadnyastan » Sat Nov 03, 2012 7:23 am

Vitaphone Racing wrote:
Samozaryadnyastan wrote:Oh please, people do that anyway.
It's actually really funny to see people wandering around high. Every takeaway staff member I've been to while high with mates has had a little giggle at our state.

I don't know, back when I worked in fast food I remember smiling politely at people who were either smashed or blazed and then wandering around the corner to loudly proclaim what annoying arseholes they were.

No offence though ;) But Maccy D's is serious business. Customers must be srs about food.

Oh yeah, in chains you have to deal with the dickheads all the time, whether they're sober or not.
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Postby Rubrum Natio » Sat Nov 03, 2012 7:24 am

Horsefish wrote:
Samozaryadnyastan wrote:And you've still got about two thirds of your weed left in the baggie, rather than all of it gone.

It is a lot nicer. Blunts are nice as a treat every now and again though.

Rubrum Natio wrote:No. I understand that marijuana has less side effects than tobacco products in all, but people walking around 'high' would be very annoying. Cigarettes give a buzz, yes. But only the first couple of times in the first place. The last thing we need is people going around smoking a drug that gives people a high causing our country's work effort to suffer and for our children to be poorly influenced by elders actions that use the drug and may get 'too high.' I believe both should be banned. But I'd rather have tobacco legal than marijuana*


People walk around drunk all the time. People who are high are a lot less irritating, less loud and not aggressive.


Yes they do but it's called public intoxication. For the less irritating thing, that depends on the person. I know people who get high a lot and I hate their guts. They are loud about it, they act like everything they do is funny like when they hit people or make them mad. I just want slap those guys across the face. But then I remember, it's not their fault...
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Postby Samozaryadnyastan » Sat Nov 03, 2012 7:24 am

F451 wrote:Like what others have already pointed out, I think adults in general are responsible enough to not try marijuana or tobacco for kicks and giggles. I would keep them both legal. However, where I'm from, there's a ban on smoking in public and I quite like that.

Did I miss something, or isn't the whole point of getting high for kicks and giggles?
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Postby Ifreann » Sat Nov 03, 2012 7:25 am

Rubrum Natio wrote:
Horsefish wrote:It is a lot nicer. Blunts are nice as a treat every now and again though.



People walk around drunk all the time. People who are high are a lot less irritating, less loud and not aggressive.


Yes they do but it's called public intoxication. For the less irritating thing, that depends on the person. I know people who get high a lot and I hate their guts. They are loud about it, they act like everything they do is funny like when they hit people or make them mad. I just want slap those guys across the face. But then I remember, it's not their fault...

Might also want to keep in mind that smacking people around just because they're annoying will land you in jail.

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Postby Ifreann » Sat Nov 03, 2012 7:26 am

Samozaryadnyastan wrote:
F451 wrote:Like what others have already pointed out, I think adults in general are responsible enough to not try marijuana or tobacco for kicks and giggles. I would keep them both legal. However, where I'm from, there's a ban on smoking in public and I quite like that.

Did I miss something, or isn't the whole point of getting high for kicks and giggles?

It's also for clearing out your fridge and/or freezer if it breaks and its contents might spoil if not eaten now.

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