Zionists please justify the Occupation

[DogDoo 7]

Jew in Haifa here.
Could a zionist please justify to me the Occupation in the West Bank. Some helpful reminders:
1. Yes, it is in fact an occupation. Israel controls the borders, the banks, the census, and the law.
2. I have heard "yes, it is unfortunate, but the palestinians just aren't ready/don't want peace OR aren't real/go to jordan" too many times and are just catch phrases so no dice.

Obviously, I think the occupation is wrong and the removal of it should be the highest priority of the state, not "the price of cheese is too high!"

[Norsklow]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_in_Darfur

Harb aleikum, sayid!

[Zephie]

Because if you don't agree with it you're anti-semetic.
Actually, if you don't agree with anything Israel does, you're anti-semetic.

[Benutanairan]

Jew in Haifa here.
Could a zionist please justify to me the Occupation in the West Bank. Some helpful reminders:
1. Yes, it is in fact an occupation. Israel controls the borders, the banks, the census, and the law.
2. I have heard "yes, it is unfortunate, but the palestinians just aren't ready/don't want peace OR aren't real/go to jordan" too many times and are just catch phrases so no dice.

Obviously, I think the occupation is wrong and the removal of it should be the highest priority of the state, not "the price of cheese is too high!"

Are you talking about a ZIONIST? a jew who lives in the occupation zone and is a ZIONIST?, or are you talking about the Philosophy of occupation with Zionistic tendencies.

[Saruhan]

Compare the number of Rockets launched from the West Bank to the number of Rockets launched from Gaza

[Mirkana]

Answer: Israel has been unable to secure a peace agreement with the Palestinians, and is unwilling to give up control of the West Bank until that happens. If and when a peace agreement is signed, Israel will abide by it, and withdraw from the lands designated as part of the new Palestinian state.

Israel's priorities:
1. Ensuring Israel's survival.
2. Not being assholes.

[Drekka]

Not quite a Zoinist but I can offer a valid reason.

Israel cannot afford to look weak, especially now with
the changes from the Arab Sping and it's current state with Iran .

[Cromarty]

This won't end well.

[Quintero]

How many Zionists are you planning on finding here on NS?
And I do agree, it seems that anyone even a little critical of Israel is labeled as an anti-semetic.

[Souseiseki]

How many Zionists are you planning on finding here on NS?
And I do agree, it seems that anyone even a little critical of Israel is labeled as an anti-semetic.

a lot

Not quite a Zoinist but I can offer a valid reason.

Israel cannot afford to look weak, especially now with
the changes from the Arab Sping and it's current state with Iran .

this is a pretty shit and vague reason

[Kakistopolis]

Jew in Haifa here.
Could a zionist please justify to me the Occupation in the West Bank. Some helpful reminders:
1. Yes, it is in fact an occupation. Israel controls the borders, the banks, the census, and the law.

And most importantly, Jordan doesn't want it back.

2. I have heard "yes, it is unfortunate, but the palestinians just aren't ready/don't want peace OR aren't real/go to jordan" too many times and are just catch phrases so no dice.

It's only fair. The Chinese occupy Tibet. The Iranians occupy Persia.

Obviously, I think the occupation is wrong and the removal of it should be the highest priority of the state, not "the price of cheese is too high!"

Would Israel still be providing Samaria with electricity and water?

[DogDoo 7]

Jew in Haifa here.
Could a zionist please justify to me the Occupation in the West Bank. Some helpful reminders:
1. Yes, it is in fact an occupation. Israel controls the borders, the banks, the census, and the law.

And most importantly, Jordan doesn't want it back.

2. I have heard "yes, it is unfortunate, but the palestinians just aren't ready/don't want peace OR aren't real/go to jordan" too many times and are just catch phrases so no dice.

It's only fair. The Chinese occupy Tibet. The Iranians occupy Persia.

Obviously, I think the occupation is wrong and the removal of it should be the highest priority of the state, not "the price of cheese is too high!"

Would Israel still be providing Samaria with electricity and water?

It doesn't matter what Jordan wants since they were never recognized as the legitimate sovereign between 1948 and 1967. So yeah, I agree that ownership of the territory itself is unclear but Israel can pick to either annex or disengage, not both. Just because the settler bloc and the military bloc can't agree isn't an excuse to do nothing.

Umm, everyone living within the borders of "Iranian-occupied Persia" is either Iranian or foreign. There is no internal military occupation there. Tibet is considered by the Chinese government to be an integral part of China. I dare you to find me an official governmental publication incorporating the West Bank into Israel (hint: you can't).

If by "providing electricity and water" you mean "selling electricity to the Palestinians at a 50% markup because Israel prohibits the Palestinians from generating their own electricity" and "taking water from Palestinian aquifiers to settlements" then no, I sincerely hope this ends.

[Arumdaum]

The Iranians occupy Persia.

I didn't bother to reply to the rest of you statement, but

lol

Really? Iran is how you say Persia in the Persian language.

[Pejic]

I don't really think you're Jewish...but I'm not a Zionist so I can't answer your question.

[DogDoo 7]

I don't really think you're Jewish...but I'm not a Zionist so I can't answer your question.

Well considering I had to get a signed letter from a rabbi "proving" my Jewishness so I could make Aliyah, both the rabbaneut and the state of Israel consider me to be one

[Yumyumsuppertime]

This won't end well.

This didn't begin well.

[Divair]

This won't end well.

This didn't begin well.

Ironically, this is much like the conflict itself.

[Nazis in Space]

Answer: Israel has been unable to secure a peace agreement with the Palestinians, and is unwilling to give up control of the West Bank until that happens. If and when a peace agreement is signed, Israel will abide by it, and withdraw from the lands designated as part of the new Palestinian state.

Israel's policy of contunually expanding its settlements in the area rather disagrees with this beautiful piece of fiction.

[The Ben Boys]

Israel's priorities:
1. Ensuring Israel's survival.
2. Not being assholes.

Sir, you are, quite possibly, smarter than eleven presidential administrations, most the Arab world, the entire UN assembly and Security Council, and a few prime ministers. Now we just need to find out how to translate it into Arabic.

[PostFreelasio]

Jew in Haifa here.
Could a zionist please justify to me the Occupation in the West Bank. Some helpful reminders:
1. Yes, it is in fact an occupation. Israel controls the borders, the banks, the census, and the law.
2. I have heard "yes, it is unfortunate, but the palestinians just aren't ready/don't want peace OR aren't real/go to jordan" too many times and are just catch phrases so no dice.

Obviously, I think the occupation is wrong and the removal of it should be the highest priority of the state, not "the price of cheese is too high!"

There is no justifying genocide. You have acknowledged the problem. Do not go backwards into denial. Don't ask for justification. Try and do something to fix the problem. I'm not saying you literally I'm saying you meaning the Israeli people and government.

[Globocom Enterprises]

You see, there are two kinds of people in this world... the people with loaded guns, and the people who dig.

Zionists don't dig.

[DogDoo 7]

Jew in Haifa here.
Could a zionist please justify to me the Occupation in the West Bank. Some helpful reminders:
1. Yes, it is in fact an occupation. Israel controls the borders, the banks, the census, and the law.
2. I have heard "yes, it is unfortunate, but the palestinians just aren't ready/don't want peace OR aren't real/go to jordan" too many times and are just catch phrases so no dice.

Obviously, I think the occupation is wrong and the removal of it should be the highest priority of the state, not "the price of cheese is too high!"

There is no justifying genocide. You have acknowledged the problem. Do not go backwards into denial. Don't ask for justification. Try and do something to fix the problem. I'm not saying you literally I'm saying you meaning the Israeli people and government.

Ok, I wouldn't call it genocide (merely well orchestrated subtle ethnic cleansing.) I mean, what is there to do? I honestly don't care about 2 state/1 state as long as alcohol, bacon, and miniskirts remain plentiful (oh yeah, and the green ID holders in the West Bank get their fundamental human rights). The problem is that from Israel's perspective, the current situation is better than peace, since they get sovereignty without having to deal with the demographics.

[DogDoo 7]

You see, there are two kinds of people in this world... the people with loaded guns, and the people who dig.

Zionists don't dig.

I'm pretty sure that one of the cornerstones of Zionism is agriculture, and that Israel is one of the world leaders in developing efficient agricultural technologies.

[Globocom Enterprises]

Peace may be the result of a solution, but Peace is never going to solve the problem over there...

I say take the gloves off, and stop playing games, tell everyone else in the world to butt out and finish what started thousands of years ago.

[Mizrah]

Jew in Haifa here.
Could a zionist please justify to me the Occupation in the West Bank. Some helpful reminders:
1. Yes, it is in fact an occupation. Israel controls the borders, the banks, the census, and the law.
2. I have heard "yes, it is unfortunate, but the palestinians just aren't ready/don't want peace OR aren't real/go to jordan" too many times and are just catch phrases so no dice.

Obviously, I think the occupation is wrong and the removal of it should be the highest priority of the state, not "the price of cheese is too high!"

You don't seem real Jewish.