Socialismphobia

[Blakk Metal]

Does Stalinism advocate for a stateless, classless, moneyless society? No, it doesn't. Therefore sadly, it is not a communist ideology however despicable, at least a more realistic ideology than communism.

Fixed for you. Br00tally raped.

Corrected.

[Jassysworth 1]

Fixed for you. Br00tally raped.

Corrected.

You mean ''brutally raped''?

Spelling issues?

[Arumdaum]

Corrected.

You mean ''brutally raped''?

Spelling issues?

Do you really not like Blakk that much to pretend not to notice that it's a purposeful misspelling and instead make a cheap attack out of it?

[CTALNH]

Does Stalinism advocate for a stateless, classless, moneyless society? No, it doesn't. Therefore, it is not a communist ideology.

Actually, yes it does. Stalin himself stated that Russia was in transition to communism socialism.

Now your right....

[Jassysworth 1]

You mean ''brutally raped''?

Spelling issues?

Do you really not like Blakk that much to pretend not to notice that it's a purposeful misspelling and instead make a cheap attack out of it?

I am not a racist if that is what you are implying...

[Mushet]

Do you really not like Blakk that much to pretend not to notice that it's a purposeful misspelling and instead make a cheap attack out of it?

I am not a racist if that is what you are implying...

[Mezdumorje]

Do you really not like Blakk that much to pretend not to notice that it's a purposeful misspelling and instead make a cheap attack out of it?

I am not a racist if that is what you are implying...

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[Kvatchdom]

He was a Marxian Socialist, who followed a less violent version of Marxism called Libertarian Socialism. So yeah, he is a socialist by marxist definition.

You contradicted yourself,yes,Orwell liked Marx,but Libertarian Socialism(also known as Social Anarchy) is,slightly(especially regarding individualism) but still different from Marx's socialism,so no,he can't be a Marxist socialist by Marx's definition but a libertarian socialist.

It isn't Marxist Socialism, but it is one of those I count as Marxian Socialism. Ideologies that represent democratic Marxism. He wasn't a Marxist, but he was very much a radical socialist. His ideology represented Marxism more than Marxism-Leninism or State-Socialism do.

[Camelza]

You contradicted yourself,yes,Orwell liked Marx,but Libertarian Socialism(also known as Social Anarchy) is,slightly(especially regarding individualism) but still different from Marx's socialism,so no,he can't be a Marxist socialist by Marx's definition but a libertarian socialist.

It isn't Marxist Socialism, but it is one of those I count as Marxian Socialism. Ideologies that represent democratic Marxism. He wasn't a Marxist, but he was very much a radical socialist. His ideology represented Marxism more than Marxism-Leninism or State-Socialism do.

Therefore,despite his beliefs are similar to those of a marxist socialist,he can't be described as a socialist by the marxist definition,my point exactly.

...and Marxism-Leninism or State-Socialism don't exactly adhere to marxist ideals.

[CTALNH]

You contradicted yourself,yes,Orwell liked Marx,but Libertarian Socialism(also known as Social Anarchy) is,slightly(especially regarding individualism) but still different from Marx's socialism,so no,he can't be a Marxist socialist by Marx's definition but a libertarian socialist.

It isn't Marxist Socialism, but it is one of those I count as Marxian Socialism. Ideologies that represent democratic Marxism. He wasn't a Marxist, but he was very much a radical socialist. His ideology represented Marxism more than Marxism-Leninism or State-Socialism do.

Orwell and radical socialist in the same sentence? Buh
You people are crazy!

[Kvatchdom]

It isn't Marxist Socialism, but it is one of those I count as Marxian Socialism. Ideologies that represent democratic Marxism. He wasn't a Marxist, but he was very much a radical socialist. His ideology represented Marxism more than Marxism-Leninism or State-Socialism do.

Orwell and radical socialist in the same sentence? Buh
You people are crazy!

I wouldn't call you a radical socialist. A socialist is someone who supports a worker-controlled economy, being radical means that they support it more actively.

[Camelza]

It isn't Marxist Socialism, but it is one of those I count as Marxian Socialism. Ideologies that represent democratic Marxism. He wasn't a Marxist, but he was very much a radical socialist. His ideology represented Marxism more than Marxism-Leninism or State-Socialism do.

Orwell and radical socialist in the same sentence? Buh
You people are crazy!

Have you actually read Orwell's works?

[Kvatchdom]

It isn't Marxist Socialism, but it is one of those I count as Marxian Socialism. Ideologies that represent democratic Marxism. He wasn't a Marxist, but he was very much a radical socialist. His ideology represented Marxism more than Marxism-Leninism or State-Socialism do.

Therefore,despite his beliefs are similar to those of a marxist socialist,he can't be described as a socialist by the marxist definition,my point exactly.

...and Marxism-Leninism or State-Socialism don't exactly adhere to marxist ideals.

No,he can. He cannot be described as a Marxist Socialist, but he is a socialist by every definition.

They claim they do.

[Camelza]

Therefore,despite his beliefs are similar to those of a marxist socialist,he can't be described as a socialist by the marxist definition,my point exactly.

...and Marxism-Leninism or State-Socialism don't exactly adhere to marxist ideals.

No,he can. He cannot be described as a Marxist Socialist, but he is a socialist by every definition.

I thought you claimed he is a Marxist socialist.

They claim they do.

...and Argentina claims the Falklands,so what?

[CTALNH]

No,he can. He cannot be described as a Marxist Socialist, but he is a socialist by every definition.

I thought you claimed he is a Marxist socialist.

They claim they do.

...and Argentina claims the Falklands,so what?

And Greece claims half of Turkey,Cyprus and the half the Balkans!

[Chestaan]

It isn't Marxist Socialism, but it is one of those I count as Marxian Socialism. Ideologies that represent democratic Marxism. He wasn't a Marxist, but he was very much a radical socialist. His ideology represented Marxism more than Marxism-Leninism or State-Socialism do.

Orwell and radical socialist in the same sentence? Buh
You people are crazy!

Well he actually fought for socialism in the Spanish Civil War (with the Trotskyists, I believe). I'd consider that pretty radical.

[Camelza]

I thought you claimed he is a Marxist socialist.

...and Argentina claims the Falklands,so what?

And Greece claims half of Turkey,Cyprus and the half the Balkans!

No,that's just you and the golden dawn guys.

except Cyprus,that's a different subject.

[CTALNH]

And Greece claims half of Turkey,Cyprus and the half the Balkans!

No,that's just you and the golden dawn guys.

except Cyprus,that's a different subject.

Not really Ask any Greek and he will tell you what we claim....

The governments stance is a whole other matter.

[Europe and Asia]

I shall say one thing. Go socialism.

[CTALNH]

Orwell and radical socialist in the same sentence? Buh
You people are crazy!

Well he actually fought for socialism in the Spanish Civil War (with the Trotskyists, I believe). I'd consider that pretty radical.

Wow and so he fought in the Spanish Civil war....
A simple question....

Do you know who supplied all their weapons?

[Chestaan]

Well he actually fought for socialism in the Spanish Civil War (with the Trotskyists, I believe). I'd consider that pretty radical.

Wow and so he fought in the Spanish Civil war....
A simple question....

Do you know who supplied all their weapons?

Wow big whoop Stalin gave them weapons. Why didn't he send troops? Why did he abandon his fellow socialists? The fascists sent troops.

And what, you don't believe that fighting for an ideal proves that you radically believe in it?

[Norsklow]

Wow and so he fought in the Spanish Civil war....
A simple question....

Do you know who supplied all their weapons?

Wow big whoop Stalin gave them weapons. Why didn't he send troops? Why did he abandon his fellow socialists? The fascists sent troops.

And what, you don't believe that fighting for an ideal proves that you radically believe in it?

Wuxtra! Wuxtra! Read all about it! Pick up a copy of 'For whom the bell tolls' to find out why the POUM was a bunch of absolute incompetent adolescents! Ernest Hemingway, author.

So the radical left and the radical right fight a war. The radical right forms a common front.
The radical left refuses the establishment of a Common Front totally. They loose the war against the Common Front. Sounds familiar?

[Jassysworth 1]

Wow big whoop Stalin gave them weapons. Why didn't he send troops? Why did he abandon his fellow socialists? The fascists sent troops.

And what, you don't believe that fighting for an ideal proves that you radically believe in it?

Wuxtra! Wuxtra! Read all about it! Pick up a copy of 'For whom the bell tolls' to find out why the POUM was a bunch of absolute incompetent adolescents! Ernest Hemingway, author.

So the radical left and the radical right fight a war. The radical right forms a common front.
The radical left refuses the establishment of a Common Front totally. They loose the war against the Common Front. Sounds familiar?

This is why we have so little to fear from the radical left... their rigid, dogmatic, and inflexible rejection of any form of rigid hierarchy, unity, and order (even when it is absolutely necessary to defeat a powerful, well-organized foe) will ALWAYS be their own greatest weakness.

The radical right... with their capabilities and willingness to organize through firmly hierarchical structures with firm leadership is a far more dangerous enemy.

The left generally remains a useless, disorganized segmented mess. The leaders of various groups within the left hate each other almost MORE than they hate the right... and everyone just feels SOOO entitled (just think of squabbling unions and strikers... each and every person only thinks of himself and feels all entitled. The shoe factory strike doesn't give a damn about the brick factory strike and vice versa, even when they could benefit from uniting their natural tendency is to oppose each other where there is the slightest doubt, however unfounded, that their interests may clash. Each leftist paramilitary caught in its own universe, feeling all entitled under that cloak of ''equality'')

Communism is self-defeating in that its firm rejection of hierarchy will always mean its inability to win battles in its revolution against more organized conservative elements.

[Chestaan]

Wuxtra! Wuxtra! Read all about it! Pick up a copy of 'For whom the bell tolls' to find out why the POUM was a bunch of absolute incompetent adolescents! Ernest Hemingway, author.

So the radical left and the radical right fight a war. The radical right forms a common front.
The radical left refuses the establishment of a Common Front totally. They loose the war against the Common Front. Sounds familiar?

This is why we have so little to fear from the radical left... their rigid, dogmatic, and inflexible rejection of any form of rigid hierarchy, unity, and order (even when it is absolutely necessary to defeat a powerful, well-organized foe) will ALWAYS be their own greatest weakness.

The radical right... with their capabilities and willingness to organize through firmly hierarchical structures with firm leadership is a far more dangerous enemy.

The left generally remains a useless, disorganized segmented mess. The leaders of various groups within the left hate each other almost MORE than they hate the right... and everyone just feels SOOO entitled (just think of squabbling unions and strikers... each and every person only thinks of himself and feels all entitled. The shoe factory strike doesn't give a damn about the brick factory strike and vice versa, even when they could benefit from uniting their natural tendency is to oppose each other where there is the slightest doubt, however unfounded, that their interests may clash. Each leftist paramilitary caught in its own universe, feeling all entitled under that cloak of ''equality'')

Communism is self-defeating in that its firm rejection of hierarchy will always mean its inability to win battles in its revolution against more organized conservative elements.

Yet SYRIZA made huge gains in the last general election. Funny that...

[Norsklow]

Yet SYRIZA made huge gains in the last general election. Funny that...

No one stays stupid forever. See?
GOP take note. History forgets those who insists to be the exception to that Rule.