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Postby LochNessMontropolis » Fri Nov 09, 2012 3:35 pm

Prime Minister Thatcher said, "...and Socialist governments traditionally do make a financial mess. They [socialists] always run out of other people's money. It's quite a characteristic of them."

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Postby Franklin Delano Bluth » Fri Nov 09, 2012 3:36 pm

LochNessMontropolis wrote:Prime Minister Thatcher said, "...and Socialist governments traditionally do make a financial mess. They [socialists] always run out of other people's money. It's quite a characteristic of them."


Once again, we see that Margaret Thatcher hadn't the slightest idea what she was talking about.
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Postby Chestaan » Fri Nov 09, 2012 3:37 pm

LochNessMontropolis wrote:Prime Minister Thatcher said, "...and Socialist governments traditionally do make a financial mess. They [socialists] always run out of other people's money. It's quite a characteristic of them."


Oh Thatcher opposed it did she? Well that right there is one of the best arguments to support socialism!
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Postby Jassysworth 1 » Fri Nov 09, 2012 7:17 pm

LochNessMontropolis wrote:Prime Minister Thatcher said, "...and Socialist governments traditionally do make a financial mess. They [socialists] always run out of other people's money. It's quite a characteristic of them."


And Churchill said this...

''The inherent vice of capitalism is the uneven division of blessings, while the inherent virtue of socialism is the equal division of misery''

Another good anti-socialist quote... :)
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Postby Mavorpen » Fri Nov 09, 2012 7:18 pm

Jassysworth 1 wrote:
LochNessMontropolis wrote:Prime Minister Thatcher said, "...and Socialist governments traditionally do make a financial mess. They [socialists] always run out of other people's money. It's quite a characteristic of them."


And Churchill said this...

''The inherent vice of capitalism is the uneven division of blessings, while the inherent virtue of socialism is the equal division of misery''

Another good anti-socialist quote... :)

Since when are quotes that promote ignorance good?
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Postby Jassysworth 1 » Fri Nov 09, 2012 7:28 pm

Mavorpen wrote:
Jassysworth 1 wrote:
And Churchill said this...

''The inherent vice of capitalism is the uneven division of blessings, while the inherent virtue of socialism is the equal division of misery''

Another good anti-socialist quote... :)

Since when are quotes that promote ignorance good?


Churchill was a man of wisdom... he made it to the Prime Minister's position. Ok? He knew what he was talking about...

This is why socialism and its unhealthy emphasis on redistribution of wealth is no way to ensure a country's long term prosperity.

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Postby Mavorpen » Fri Nov 09, 2012 7:29 pm

Jassysworth 1 wrote:Churchill was a man of wisdom... he made it to the Prime Minister's position. Ok? He knew what he was talking about...

What does being the Prime Minister have to do with wisdom?
Jassysworth 1 wrote:This is why socialism and its unhealthy emphasis on redistribution of wealth is no way to ensure a country's long term prosperity.

It's a good thing socialism has no emphasis on redistribution of wealth.
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Postby Quintium » Fri Nov 09, 2012 7:39 pm

"I do not agree that the dog in a manger has the final right to the manger even though he may have lain there for a very long time. I do not admit that right. I do not admit for instance, that a great wrong has been done to the Red Indians of America or the black people of Australia. I do not admit that a wrong has been done to these people by the fact that a stronger race, a higher-grade race, a more worldly wise race to put it that way, has come in and taken their place." - Winston Churchill, 1937

It's great how you can always find some nasty things in quotes from politicians all the way up to the 1970s.
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Postby Of the Free Socialist Territories » Sat Nov 10, 2012 8:31 am

Jassysworth 1 wrote:
Mavorpen wrote:Since when are quotes that promote ignorance good?


Churchill was a man of wisdom... he made it to the Prime Minister's position. Ok? He knew what he was talking about...


This'll be the Churchill who was a drunken imperialist imbecile who completely buggered up Gallipoli and was simply the right man for the job in WWII but was otherwise a wholly incapable politician, correct? Also, Churchill clearly didn't understand what socialism is.

This is why socialism and its unhealthy emphasis on redistribution of wealth is no way to ensure a country's long term prosperity.


Please do explain why workers' control of the means of production is unhealthy for a country.
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Postby Souseiseki » Sat Nov 10, 2012 8:54 am

Jassysworth 1 wrote:
Mavorpen wrote:Since when are quotes that promote ignorance good?


Churchill was a man of wisdom... he made it to the Prime Minister's position. Ok? He knew what he was talking about...

This is why socialism and its unhealthy emphasis on redistribution of wealth is no way to ensure a country's long term prosperity.

I do not understand this squeamishness about the use of gas. We have definitely adopted the position at the Peace Conference of arguing in favour of the retention of gas as a permanent method of warfare. It is sheer affectation to lacerate a man with the poisonous fragment of a bursting shell and to boggle at making his eyes water by means of lachrymatory gas.

I am strongly in favour of using poisoned gas against uncivilised tribes. The moral effect should be so good that the loss of life should be reduced to a minimum. It is not necessary to use only the most deadly gasses: gasses can be used which cause great inconvenience and would spread a lively terror and yet would leave no serious permanent effects on most of those affected.

fuck churchill

fuck thatcher
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Postby Chestaan » Sat Nov 10, 2012 8:55 am

Jassysworth 1 wrote:
Mavorpen wrote:Since when are quotes that promote ignorance good?


Churchill was a man of wisdom... he made it to the Prime Minister's position. Ok? He knew what he was talking about...

This is why socialism and its unhealthy emphasis on redistribution of wealth is no way to ensure a country's long term prosperity.


:rofl:

You think that you need to be wise to become Prime Minister!! Oh thanks for that, I needed a laugh!
Seriously, you should come over to Ireland and tell people that you need to be wise to be the Prime Minister!
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Postby Chestaan » Sat Nov 10, 2012 8:57 am

Souseiseki wrote:
Jassysworth 1 wrote:
Churchill was a man of wisdom... he made it to the Prime Minister's position. Ok? He knew what he was talking about...

This is why socialism and its unhealthy emphasis on redistribution of wealth is no way to ensure a country's long term prosperity.

I do not understand this squeamishness about the use of gas. We have definitely adopted the position at the Peace Conference of arguing in favour of the retention of gas as a permanent method of warfare. It is sheer affectation to lacerate a man with the poisonous fragment of a bursting shell and to boggle at making his eyes water by means of lachrymatory gas.

I am strongly in favour of using poisoned gas against uncivilised tribes. The moral effect should be so good that the loss of life should be reduced to a minimum. It is not necessary to use only the most deadly gasses: gasses can be used which cause great inconvenience and would spread a lively terror and yet would leave no serious permanent effects on most of those affected.

fuck churchill

fuck thatcher


Hear, Hear!
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Postby Charles Montgomery Burns » Sat Nov 10, 2012 9:26 am

Because the evil communists want to impurify our precious bodily fluids! :eek:

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Postby Divair » Sat Nov 10, 2012 9:26 am

Charles Montgomery Burns wrote:Because the evil communists want to infiltrate our precious bodily fluids! :eek:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rKR32ImWYzw

This novelty account isn't very funny.

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Postby Charles Montgomery Burns » Sat Nov 10, 2012 9:31 am

Divair wrote:
Charles Montgomery Burns wrote:Because the evil communists want to infiltrate our precious bodily fluids! :eek:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rKR32ImWYzw

This novelty account isn't very funny.


Neither is the gargantuan failure that is communism.
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Postby Vazdania » Sat Nov 10, 2012 9:33 am

Charles Montgomery Burns wrote:
Divair wrote:This novelty account isn't very funny.


Neither is the gargantuan failure that is communism.

OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH BBBBUUUUUURRRRRRNNNNNN!!!!!!11
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Postby Divair » Sat Nov 10, 2012 9:34 am

Charles Montgomery Burns wrote:
Divair wrote:This novelty account isn't very funny.


Neither is the gargantuan failure that is communism.

And these failures, you have evidence of them?


Vazdania wrote:
Charles Montgomery Burns wrote:
Neither is the gargantuan failure that is communism.

OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH BBBBUUUUUURRRRRRNNNNNN!!!!!!11

What a pun.

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Postby Vazdania » Sat Nov 10, 2012 9:35 am

Divair wrote:
Charles Montgomery Burns wrote:
Neither is the gargantuan failure that is communism.

And these failures, you have evidence of them?


Vazdania wrote:OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH BBBBUUUUUURRRRRRNNNNNN!!!!!!11

What a pun.


1.) The USSR though it wasn't "true" communism, it took from communist ideals
2.) thats not a pun.
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Postby Mavorpen » Sat Nov 10, 2012 9:36 am

Vazdania wrote:1.) The USSR though it wasn't "true" communism, it took from communist ideals

It claimed to be in transition to communism. That's about the ONLY thing linking it to communism.
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Postby Divair » Sat Nov 10, 2012 9:36 am

Vazdania wrote:1.) The USSR though it wasn't "true" communism, it took from communist ideals

No. The USSR wasn't communist. Period. It was Stalinist, which is a transition stage (although in reality it wasn't going anywhere).


Vazdania wrote:2.) thats not a pun.

It is. Look very carefully.
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Postby Vazdania » Sat Nov 10, 2012 9:37 am

Divair wrote:
Vazdania wrote:1.) The USSR though it wasn't "true" communism, it took from communist ideals

No. The USSR wasn't communist. Period. It was Stalinist.

Vazdania wrote:2.) thats not a pun.

It is. Look very carefully.

2.) o_O i still dont see it...please explain
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Postby Divair » Sat Nov 10, 2012 9:37 am

Vazdania wrote:
Divair wrote:No. The USSR wasn't communist. Period. It was Stalinist.


It is. Look very carefully.

2.) o_O i still dont see it...please explain

Look at the novelty account's name.

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Postby Vazdania » Sat Nov 10, 2012 9:38 am

Divair wrote:
Vazdania wrote:2.) o_O i still dont see it...please explain

Look at the novelty account's name.

Oh my gawsh xD did I do that? THATS HILARIOUS!
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Postby Kvatchdom » Sat Nov 10, 2012 10:03 am

Jassysworth 1 wrote:
Mavorpen wrote:Since when are quotes that promote ignorance good?


Churchill was a man of wisdom... he made it to the Prime Minister's position. Ok? He knew what he was talking about...

This is why socialism and its unhealthy emphasis on redistribution of wealth is no way to ensure a country's long term prosperity.


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Postby LochNessMontropolis » Sat Nov 10, 2012 12:35 pm

Okay, I've heard a lot about how great socialism is - SO, tell me why it's so great. Convince me.

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