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Postby Zephie » Thu Nov 01, 2012 11:54 am

The UK in Exile wrote:
Zephie wrote:what about tv fathers?


yeah, how come TV fathers are always played by men?

good point.

lol :clap:
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Postby Des-Bal » Thu Nov 01, 2012 11:57 am

Zephie wrote:Like what?


Basically everything Tahar Joblis has said so far? I'd go track down sources but this is his area of expertise and he's brought forward a wealth of sources.
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Postby The De Danann Nation » Thu Nov 01, 2012 11:58 am

Demirysis wrote:... Aaaand this is why I fucking hate feminists. They just want more sexism. It's like they fucking wallow in it.


I agree 100%.
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Postby Dainer » Thu Nov 01, 2012 11:58 am

The problem is that Men's Rights activists have a history of constantly and consistently fighting against gender equality. Also, there's this obnoxious tendency of screaming "WHAT ABOUT THE MEEEEEEEEEN?" every time they're around a discussion about the problems of women.

Zephie wrote:No, for some equality means an equal opportunity without discrimination.
For others, it literally means equality, like communist style.

Equality in the word of law only, is a farce. Just declaring the privileged and non-privileged equal by government fiat does nothing to remove prejudice or the hurdles disadvantaged people have to go through in life just to get even. There's no "equal opportunity" in that.
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Postby Great Yorkshire » Thu Nov 01, 2012 12:01 pm

Tahar Joblis wrote:A panel full of commentators on a TV show on a major television show, commenting on a more recent case and laughing their asses off in grand misandrist fashion as they speculate on what he did to deserve it and crack jokes about it.
I've seen this and it's pretty fucking disgusting.
In a crazy world were men were viewed as having feelings, and a right not to have to put up with assault, the show would have been pulled, there would have been an inquiry, public apologies, people would have lost their jobs.
Luckily the entire TV audience knew better.
The Queen of quips, the Sultan of snickering, the President of puns, the Generalissimo of jollity, the Tsar of zingers, the Guru of guffaws, the Jam Sahib of jokes, the Maharajah of mirth, the Chhatrapati of cheer, the Poligar of punch lines, the Rao Bahadur of revelry, the Baivarapatish of bullshit, the Chief Executive of chuckles, the Managing Director of merriment, the Deputy Financial Officer of damn funny observations, the Satrap of satire, who'll never give you a flat tire, 'cos she's not that dire, she used to have testicles, she still wears spectacles, the Edith Piaf of amateur table tennis (she regrets nothing about her backhand smashes) and the self-declared inventor of the prawn burrito... The one, the only... The chunter hunter... Great Yorkshire.

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Postby Zephie » Thu Nov 01, 2012 12:03 pm

Great Yorkshire wrote:
Tahar Joblis wrote:A panel full of commentators on a TV show on a major television show, commenting on a more recent case and laughing their asses off in grand misandrist fashion as they speculate on what he did to deserve it and crack jokes about it.
I've seen this and it's pretty fucking disgusting.
In a crazy world were men were viewed as having feelings, and a right not to have to put up with assault, the show would have been pulled, there would have been an inquiry, public apologies, people would have lost their jobs.
Luckily the entire TV audience knew better.

Being a white male sucks.
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Postby Great Yorkshire » Thu Nov 01, 2012 12:04 pm

Zephie wrote:
Great Yorkshire wrote:I've seen this and it's pretty fucking disgusting.
In a crazy world were men were viewed as having feelings, and a right not to have to put up with assault, the show would have been pulled, there would have been an inquiry, public apologies, people would have lost their jobs.
Luckily the entire TV audience knew better.

Being a white male sucks.
Being beaten sucks.
The Queen of quips, the Sultan of snickering, the President of puns, the Generalissimo of jollity, the Tsar of zingers, the Guru of guffaws, the Jam Sahib of jokes, the Maharajah of mirth, the Chhatrapati of cheer, the Poligar of punch lines, the Rao Bahadur of revelry, the Baivarapatish of bullshit, the Chief Executive of chuckles, the Managing Director of merriment, the Deputy Financial Officer of damn funny observations, the Satrap of satire, who'll never give you a flat tire, 'cos she's not that dire, she used to have testicles, she still wears spectacles, the Edith Piaf of amateur table tennis (she regrets nothing about her backhand smashes) and the self-declared inventor of the prawn burrito... The one, the only... The chunter hunter... Great Yorkshire.

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Postby The UK in Exile » Thu Nov 01, 2012 12:05 pm

Zephie wrote:
Great Yorkshire wrote:I've seen this and it's pretty fucking disgusting.
In a crazy world were men were viewed as having feelings, and a right not to have to put up with assault, the show would have been pulled, there would have been an inquiry, public apologies, people would have lost their jobs.
Luckily the entire TV audience knew better.

Being a white male sucks.


you know what I hate most about it? not getting maternity leave.
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Postby Zephie » Thu Nov 01, 2012 12:06 pm

The UK in Exile wrote:
Zephie wrote:Being a white male sucks.


you know what I hate most about it? not getting maternity leave.

I lost my job because my boss wouldn't let me pump milk during work.

Great Yorkshire wrote:
Zephie wrote:Being a white male sucks.
Being beaten sucks.

Being forced to suck on the affirmative action hating anyone who is successful shaft sucks
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Postby Great Yorkshire » Thu Nov 01, 2012 12:10 pm

Zephie wrote:
Great Yorkshire wrote:Being beaten sucks.

Being forced to suck on the affirmative action hating anyone who is successful shaft sucks
Perhaps I am missing something, has a new scientific theory emerged which shows that male flesh regenerates like wolverine's, or that PTSD is solely the product of a bruised ovary?
If not, then I'm gonna carry on being against abuse, regardless of demographics.
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The Queen of quips, the Sultan of snickering, the President of puns, the Generalissimo of jollity, the Tsar of zingers, the Guru of guffaws, the Jam Sahib of jokes, the Maharajah of mirth, the Chhatrapati of cheer, the Poligar of punch lines, the Rao Bahadur of revelry, the Baivarapatish of bullshit, the Chief Executive of chuckles, the Managing Director of merriment, the Deputy Financial Officer of damn funny observations, the Satrap of satire, who'll never give you a flat tire, 'cos she's not that dire, she used to have testicles, she still wears spectacles, the Edith Piaf of amateur table tennis (she regrets nothing about her backhand smashes) and the self-declared inventor of the prawn burrito... The one, the only... The chunter hunter... Great Yorkshire.

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Postby Ancient Empire » Thu Nov 01, 2012 12:11 pm

Dainer wrote:The problem is that Men's Rights activists have a history of constantly and consistently fighting against gender equality.

Source please.

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Postby Dyonis » Thu Nov 01, 2012 12:13 pm

If you ever get caught in a fire or other disaster (which I wish to no one) and you see a 5'2" 125 pounds, firewoman come to drag you out... you will appreciate your right to be equally toasted, so much better than the right to be actually saved.

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Postby Des-Bal » Thu Nov 01, 2012 12:16 pm

Dyonis wrote:If you ever get caught in a fire or other disaster (which I wish to no one) and you see a 5'2" 125 pounds, firewoman come to drag you out... you will appreciate your right to be equally toasted, so much better than the right to be actually saved.


The problem there is the 5'2 125 pound bit not the woman bit. We have the tendency to think of woman to intrinsicly mean a dainty woman. I've known women who were more than qualified to carry a two hundred pound man on their shoulders.
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Postby The Emerald Dawn » Thu Nov 01, 2012 12:18 pm

Des-Bal wrote:
Dyonis wrote:If you ever get caught in a fire or other disaster (which I wish to no one) and you see a 5'2" 125 pounds, firewoman come to drag you out... you will appreciate your right to be equally toasted, so much better than the right to be actually saved.


The problem there is the 5'2 125 pound bit not the woman bit. We have the tendency to think of woman to intrinsicly mean a dainty woman. I've known women who were more than qualified to carry a two hundred pound man on their shoulders.

I actively sleep with my wife, who is 6'2" 12.5 stones. Trust me, womens can be big and strong too.

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Postby Mavorpen » Thu Nov 01, 2012 12:23 pm

Shnercropolis wrote:what kind of weirdo puts up a poster advocating civil rights for men? I thought we always had them?

The same people advocating for a "white history month." What they fail to realize is that every month is white history month.
"The Nixon campaign in 1968, and the Nixon White House after that, had two enemies: the antiwar left and black people. You understand what I'm saying? We knew we couldn't make it illegal to be either against the war or black, but by getting the public to associate the hippies with marijuana and blacks with heroin, and then criminalizing both heavily, we could disrupt those communities. We could arrest their leaders. raid their homes, break up their meetings, and vilify them night after night on the evening news. Did we know we were lying about the drugs? Of course we did."—former Nixon domestic policy chief John Ehrlichman

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Postby Ancient Empire » Thu Nov 01, 2012 12:28 pm

Mavorpen wrote:
Shnercropolis wrote:what kind of weirdo puts up a poster advocating civil rights for men? I thought we always had them?

The same people advocating for a "white history month."

Source please.

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Postby Zephie » Thu Nov 01, 2012 12:29 pm

Mavorpen wrote:
Shnercropolis wrote:what kind of weirdo puts up a poster advocating civil rights for men? I thought we always had them?

The same people advocating for a "white history month." What they fail to realize is that every month is white history month.

Hah, white history month. There's more ethnicities of "white" people than countries in the world.
We'd need a lot of months for that.
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Postby Ancient Empire » Thu Nov 01, 2012 12:30 pm

Zephie wrote:
Mavorpen wrote:The same people advocating for a "white history month." What they fail to realize is that every month is white history month.

Hah, white history month. There's more ethnicities of "white" people than countries in the world.
We'd need a lot of months for that.

What does this "white history month" have to do with helping victims of abuse or rape regardless of whether they are male or female?

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Postby Zephie » Thu Nov 01, 2012 12:31 pm

Ancient Empire wrote:
Zephie wrote:Hah, white history month. There's more ethnicities of "white" people than countries in the world.
We'd need a lot of months for that.

What does this "white history month" have to do with helping victims of abuse or rape regardless of whether they are male or female?

Rape history month?
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Postby Mavorpen » Thu Nov 01, 2012 12:34 pm

Ancient Empire wrote:
Mavorpen wrote:The same people advocating for a "white history month."

Source please.

It's satire. What the fuck...?
"The Nixon campaign in 1968, and the Nixon White House after that, had two enemies: the antiwar left and black people. You understand what I'm saying? We knew we couldn't make it illegal to be either against the war or black, but by getting the public to associate the hippies with marijuana and blacks with heroin, and then criminalizing both heavily, we could disrupt those communities. We could arrest their leaders. raid their homes, break up their meetings, and vilify them night after night on the evening news. Did we know we were lying about the drugs? Of course we did."—former Nixon domestic policy chief John Ehrlichman

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Postby Zephie » Thu Nov 01, 2012 12:35 pm

Mavorpen wrote:
Ancient Empire wrote:Source please.

It's satire. What the fuck...?

A source, he wants. Just google the definition and copy/paste.
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Postby Mavorpen » Thu Nov 01, 2012 12:36 pm

Zephie wrote:
Mavorpen wrote:It's satire. What the fuck...?

A source, he wants. Just google the definition and copy/paste.

I was going to do that. Concluded it wasn't worth it.
"The Nixon campaign in 1968, and the Nixon White House after that, had two enemies: the antiwar left and black people. You understand what I'm saying? We knew we couldn't make it illegal to be either against the war or black, but by getting the public to associate the hippies with marijuana and blacks with heroin, and then criminalizing both heavily, we could disrupt those communities. We could arrest their leaders. raid their homes, break up their meetings, and vilify them night after night on the evening news. Did we know we were lying about the drugs? Of course we did."—former Nixon domestic policy chief John Ehrlichman

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Postby Dyonis » Thu Nov 01, 2012 12:37 pm

Des-Bal wrote:
Dyonis wrote:If you ever get caught in a fire or other disaster (which I wish to no one) and you see a 5'2" 125 pounds, firewoman come to drag you out... you will appreciate your right to be equally toasted, so much better than the right to be actually saved.


The problem there is the 5'2 125 pound bit not the woman bit. We have the tendency to think of woman to intrinsicly mean a dainty woman. I've known women who were more than qualified to carry a two hundred pound man on their shoulders.


You are right, I cannot deny your point. On the other hand, since women activists had a shot at having women to work in our fire departments(that is where I live), they have lowered the standards for physical prowess's in the exams, so to let more women in. Because, you have to have an equal number of men and women in every job or occupation. Since then, our fire workers are less fit and capable overall.

Reality is not one size fits all. Yes, all humans should be treated equally. No, not all humans have the same capabilities. Yes, some roles require special sets of aptitudes. Yes, genders favor specific sets of aptitudes. No, you should not evaluate someone on the basis of gender.

Rip all the posters you want, what you get? Ripped posters.

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Postby Ancient Empire » Thu Nov 01, 2012 12:39 pm

Mavorpen wrote:
Ancient Empire wrote:Source please.

It's satire. What the fuck...?

I don't think human rights for all and white history month are anywhere near comparable. Like I know that white history month is satire, but I don't think that people who advocate for equal rights are joking.

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Postby Crangy » Thu Nov 01, 2012 12:40 pm

Harrietharmman wrote:There's some interesting stories coming out of Canada with feminists objecting to posters which state "Men's rights are human rights". They've been ripping the posters down despite those posting them having permission to put them up.

How the hell can anyone disagree that men should have rights??(Image) Anyway, here's the video:

it's well worth watching and pretty entertaining stuff if you like to see idiots acting really dumb, skip to 2 mins 10 for the fun!


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Jz63_lGuSE

They've finally identified the "star" of the video who was organising the vandalism. Rather worryingly she a teacher:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yy0gryjLIsU
Here's a news report on the issue:
Posters in support of men's rights ripped down in Vancouver

There is backlash from both sexes after posters supporting men's rights were ripped down in Vancouver's Commercial Drive neighbourhood.

Some of the posters read "Stop violence against women, but not men, because men don't matter -- despite being more often the victims of violence." Many of the posters have been either taken down or defaced.

News1130 hit the streets to find out what you think about the controversial message. Men and women we spoke with say they should be left up because we don't hear enough about men's rights. They also believe Vancouver is an open-minded city.

"I can understand that there can be violence against men as well. I don't agree that they're being ripped down," says one man.

"I think these posters should definitely be good to go. I mean, anyone who's against violence against either men or women, I'm all behind that," adds a Vancouver woman.

Others say if you don't agree with the movement, then don't look at the posters -- but no one should have the right to vandalize.

"You don't hear a lot about [men's rights] and that's the surprising part. It is very surprising that they're being ripped down. Definitely, they should go back up. You see signs up for everything around here and to select which ones we put up and which ones we don't, it's a little bit ridiculous," explains another man.

In a written statement to News1130, the founder of the local men's rights blog MasculisM.ca, which is behind the movement, says he got involved because of his experiences on the Downtown Eastside.
I think the only solution to such censorship is for people to put up even more posters. What do other people think?

I think that quote that men aren't needed is the stupidest quote ever.
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