Feminists destroy posters advocating human rights for men

[The Emerald Dawn]

The problem is, you aren't recognizing that women need to learn to control their urges as well. You lessen women by saying that they don't have the same primal urges men do.

I wouldn't say "primal".

Sex is a psychological need; which is to say, it's not dysfunctional, but a part of normal human psychological operations.

Besides, it feels great, and it's good for you.

I would just keep it to people within our own age groups.

We already know the implications of having sex with children and the elderly, though I suppose it's not as bad if it's with the elderly.

Primal, as in basic. The instinctive need for something.

[The Rich Port]

I think "Feminazi" is an appropriate word for an extremist. I call the mannists "Andronazis".

Those are both propagandistic and insulting terms. As though tearing down a poster or expressing an unpopular opinion is tantamount to murdering millions of people.

I wouldn't use either if I wanted to be taken seriously.

Very well.

And noted. I'll keep it to when I'm mocking both groups.

[Choronzon]

I think some urges are stronger in the average man, while others are stronger in the average women.

It is possible. I've dealt with some...urgy women in my life.

I said "the average woman" for a reason. They're out there. The need to procreate is in all humans. And some women are just as horny as your average frat boy.

Just like some men have very little interest in fucking.

[The Emerald Dawn]

It is possible. I've dealt with some...urgy women in my life.

I said "the average woman" for a reason. They're out there. The need to procreate is in all humans. And some women are just as horny as your average frat boy.

Just like some men have very little interest in fucking.

I'm not hep enough to say that I know the average woman well enough to say that they don't want sex as much as the average guy. I try to stay out of other people's bedrooms, unless they invite me in.

[AiliailiA]

I think it's a good slogan, not cringeworthy at all.

Any other campaign could be similarly criticized: why should feminists campaign for equal wages or reproductive rights just because those issues particularly concern women ... surely there are more pressing matters of human rights?

Or why campaign for children's rights, since those are just human rights?

Don't let the perfect be the enemy of the good.

because they had much better slogans?

and dare I say it, a point?

So your point is that "men's rights are human rights" just isn't a good slogan. The only reason you gave is "why not campaign for human rights" but now you don't want to defend even that.

Would "women's rights are human rights" also be a bad slogan?

[Urya (Ancient)]

Fuck logic.(And Feminists)

[The UK in Exile]

because they had much better slogans?

and dare I say it, a point?

So your point is that "men's rights are human rights" just isn't a good slogan. The only reason you gave is "why not campaign for human rights" but now you don't want to defend even that.

Would "women's rights are human rights" also be a bad slogan?

yes. X is Y is always a bad slogan.

[Question Everything]

Not suprised. Feminists applauded when Lorena Bobbit cut her husband's schlong off, so this is just another day at the job for them. They only see suffering and injustice when it happens to women. Today's feminsts are a disgrace. I can guarantee the real feminists of the late 19th to early 20th century would spit at them if they met them.

[Choronzon]

Feminists applauded when Lorena Bobbit cut her husband's schlong off

Source this unsubstantiated bullshit, please.

I can guarantee the real feminists of the late 19th to early 20th century would spit at them if they met them.

Your guarantee means jack shit, especially when its obvious that you're clueless.

[Merriwhether]

I don't know where I did that to be honest. I never suggested that men were mindless beasts driven to rape and grope. In fact, the societal mindset I'm arguing against is the one doing that.

The idea of women leading men on, suggests that women owe men sex. That they have a right to expect it, under certain conditions. And that if it is not given, the woman is in the wrong. She is bad, dirty, wrong. Such a mindset fosters entitlement. Entitlement leads some men to the belief that they can take "what is owed to them". Changing this mindset demonstrates respect to both men and women:

Women - that they have a right to control their bodies, and change their minds about things.

Men - that they can control their urges, and recognise women as having rights.

It is the responsibility of both men and women to respect the rights of the other.

It's one thing to fairly punish a single man for rape.
It's another to take away the rights of all man kind for it.

[Saint Jade IV]

I don't know where I did that to be honest. I never suggested that men were mindless beasts driven to rape and grope. In fact, the societal mindset I'm arguing against is the one doing that.

The idea of women leading men on, suggests that women owe men sex. That they have a right to expect it, under certain conditions. And that if it is not given, the woman is in the wrong. She is bad, dirty, wrong. Such a mindset fosters entitlement. Entitlement leads some men to the belief that they can take "what is owed to them". Changing this mindset demonstrates respect to both men and women:

Women - that they have a right to control their bodies, and change their minds about things.

Men - that they can control their urges, and recognise women as having rights.

The problem is, you aren't recognizing that women need to learn to control their urges as well. You lessen women by saying that they don't have the same primal urges men do.

Actually, the problem, societally speaking, is more that women are discouraged from expressing their sexuality, or their urges. The "leading a man on" mindset tells women that if they do express sexuality, they are expected to go full-steam ahead, with whatever the man wants, since he has a right to expect that. They are not taught that it is acceptable for them to express their sexuality at a level comfortable for them, without being expected to go further. Women are, from a societal standpoint, pretty much told, "If you don't want to have sex, don't be sexual. At all. Ever."

[Saint Jade IV]

I don't know where I did that to be honest. I never suggested that men were mindless beasts driven to rape and grope. In fact, the societal mindset I'm arguing against is the one doing that.

The idea of women leading men on, suggests that women owe men sex. That they have a right to expect it, under certain conditions. And that if it is not given, the woman is in the wrong. She is bad, dirty, wrong. Such a mindset fosters entitlement. Entitlement leads some men to the belief that they can take "what is owed to them". Changing this mindset demonstrates respect to both men and women:

Women - that they have a right to control their bodies, and change their minds about things.

Men - that they can control their urges, and recognise women as having rights.

It is the responsibility of both men and women to respect the rights of the other.

It's one thing to fairly punish a single man for rape.
It's another to take away the rights of all man kind for it.

and where exactly did I suggest taking away the rights of all mankind?

[Neo Art]

Actually, the problem, societally speaking, is more that women are discouraged from expressing their sexuality, or their urges. The "leading a man on" mindset tells women that if they do express sexuality, they are expected to go full-steam ahead, with whatever the man wants, since he has a right to expect that. They are not taught that it is acceptable for them to express their sexuality at a level comfortable for them, without being expected to go further. Women are, from a societal standpoint, pretty much told, "If you don't want to have sex, don't be sexual. At all. Ever."

Funny, I would have thought that between getting dinner ready and doing the laundry you wouldn't have time to learn how to read.

Where did you get shoes?

[Neo Art]

and where exactly did I suggest taking away the rights of all mankind?

When you suggested that men don't have the right to take sex when they want it, of course.

[The Emerald Dawn]

The problem is, you aren't recognizing that women need to learn to control their urges as well. You lessen women by saying that they don't have the same primal urges men do.

Actually, the problem, societally speaking, is more that women are discouraged from expressing their sexuality, or their urges. The "leading a man on" mindset tells women that if they do express sexuality, they are expected to go full-steam ahead, with whatever the man wants, since he has a right to expect that. They are not taught that it is acceptable for them to express their sexuality at a level comfortable for them, without being expected to go further. Women are, from a societal standpoint, pretty much told, "If you don't want to have sex, don't be sexual. At all. Ever."

You likely travel in different societal circles than I do. I've seen plenty of both men, and women, give in to the urge to get drunk, give in to the urge to get naked, give in to the urge to start stupid stuff.

It's why I said both, instead of just one. If everyone learned to control their urges, and to plan for exigencies, everyone would benefit.

[Question Everything]

Feminists applauded when Lorena Bobbit cut her husband's schlong off

Source this unsubstantiated bullshit, please.

I can guarantee the real feminists of the late 19th to early 20th century would spit at them if they met them.

Your guarantee means jack shit, especially when its obvious that you're clueless.

I'd be wasting my time trying to explain anything on a website like this. People here are so deluded by their own echo chambers that facts rarely ever get through. That's why I don't seriously debate on this website anymore, because it's very similar to watching an evolutionist debate a creationist. Both sides just clamor on and resort to verbal abuse when they run out of ideas. Nope. I'm done with that. Take my statement or don't. I really don't care.

[Choronzon]

Source this unsubstantiated bullshit, please.

Your guarantee means jack shit, especially when its obvious that you're clueless.

I'd be wasting my time trying to explain anything on a website like this. People here are so deluded by their own echo chambers that facts rarely ever get through. That's why I don't seriously debate on this website anymore, because it's very similar to watching an evolutionist debate a creationist. Both sides just clamor on and resort to verbal abuse when they run out of ideas. Nope. I'm done with that. Take my statement or don't. I really don't care.

So, you have absolutely nothing to back up that feminists celebrated when a man's gentiles were mutilated, other than your victimization complex? Unlike (I suspect) you, I actually know feminists. Intelligent ones, you write about this shit and try and get published. Not a single feminist that I'm aware of was celebrating.

At this point its not unfair of me to say that you're totally full of shit.

[Neo Art]

Source this unsubstantiated bullshit, please.

Your guarantee means jack shit, especially when its obvious that you're clueless.

I'd be wasting my time trying to explain anything on a website like this. People here are so deluded by their own echo chambers that facts rarely ever get through. That's why I don't seriously debate on this website anymore, because it's very similar to watching an evolutionist debate a creationist. Both sides just clamor on and resort to verbal abuse when they run out of ideas. Nope. I'm done with that. Take my statement or don't. I really don't care.

Oh! Oh! Call them sheeple! And then go listen to the Decemberists.

It'll be a hipster trifecta.

[Merriwhether]

It is the responsibility of both men and women to respect the rights of the other.

It's one thing to fairly punish a single man for rape.
It's another to take away the rights of all man kind for it.

and where exactly did I suggest taking away the rights of all mankind?

You aren't, but that's what the feminists are suggesting, that because some men are evil all men are evil, which is the farthest stretch from the truth I've personally ever heard. This is coming from a 14 year old guy who only guesses is the only person his age who has never smoked anything, drank any form of alcohol, nor committed any remotely sexual act ever, and would prefer it remained so.

But I digress. The point is, feminists are taking irrelevant information and using it to suppress rights for men, which would therein create a new inequality, as our rights are currently as equal as they're going to get.

[Souseiseki]

Source this unsubstantiated bullshit, please.

Your guarantee means jack shit, especially when its obvious that you're clueless.

I'd be wasting my time trying to explain anything on a website like this. People here are so deluded by their own echo chambers that facts rarely ever get through. That's why I don't seriously debate on this website anymore, because it's very similar to watching an evolutionist debate a creationist. Both sides just clamor on and resort to verbal abuse when they run out of ideas. Nope. I'm done with that. Take my statement or don't. I really don't care.

Is this a very very long way of saying you're not going to provide a source and we're expected to just "Take [your] statement" without one?

[Choronzon]

I'd be wasting my time trying to explain anything on a website like this. People here are so deluded by their own echo chambers that facts rarely ever get through. That's why I don't seriously debate on this website anymore, because it's very similar to watching an evolutionist debate a creationist. Both sides just clamor on and resort to verbal abuse when they run out of ideas. Nope. I'm done with that. Take my statement or don't. I really don't care.

Is this a very very long way of saying you're not going to provide a source and we're expected to just "Take [your] statement" without one?

He doesn't even care if we take his statement, cause we're not his REAL political message board!

[Souseiseki]

and where exactly did I suggest taking away the rights of all mankind?

You aren't, but that's what the feminists are suggesting, that because some men are evil all men are evil, which is the farthest stretch from the truth I've personally ever heard. This is coming from a 14 year old guy who only guesses is the only person his age who has never smoked anything, drank any form of alcohol, nor committed any remotely sexual act ever, and would prefer it remained so.

But I digress. The point is, feminists are taking irrelevant information and using it to suppress rights for men, which would therein create a new inequality, as our rights are currently as equal as they're going to get.

now i hate to imply that a 14 year old guy might not have a full comprehension of feminism when they say feminists are suggesting taking away the rights of all men because all men are evil, but is it just even remotely possible that, just maybe

[Choronzon]

This is coming from a 14 year old guy

Theres your problem.

[Merriwhether]

This is coming from a 14 year old guy

Theres your problem.

The problem being?

[Choronzon]

Theres your problem.

The problem being?

Your being a 14 year old boy might have something to do with your total mischaracterization of feminism.

Thats me giving you the benefit of the doubt. Its the best you'll get.