Atheism and religious hate

[Dyakovo]

Shit.

I got nothing.

I know that feeling. If someone refuses to accept facts and logic.. what do you do? How do you end the debate?

With mockery.

[The Emerald Dawn]

I know that feeling. If someone refuses to accept facts and logic.. what do you do? How do you end the debate?

With mockery.

And STYLE.

[Divair]

I know that feeling. If someone refuses to accept facts and logic.. what do you do? How do you end the debate?

With mockery.

Works for me.

[Ovisterra]

I know that feeling. If someone refuses to accept facts and logic.. what do you do? How do you end the debate?

With mockery.

All my debates are like that.

I'm just a dick, basically. You should try it, it's fun.

[Grimlundt]

ostoeuropa --
You think it's good to ridicule people for unfounded beliefs
So you ridicule people for liking music?
because there are 2 ways to make a well-founded claim:
1/ based on evidence OR
2/ based on widely held beliefs.

there is NO evidential basis for any ethics or aesthetics
So you ought to ridicule people for being artists -- or doing good deeds
That would at least be consistent with your position

[Ostroeuropa]

ostoeuropa --
You think it's good to ridicule people for unfounded beliefs
So you ridicule people for liking music?
because there are 2 ways to make a well-founded claim:
1/ based on evidence OR
2/ based on widely held beliefs.

there is NO evidential basis for any ethics or aesthetics
So you ought to ridicule people for being artists -- or doing good deeds
That would at least be consistent with your position

I would mock someone for claiming music was inherently good.
You have a very firm foundation to claim you like music. (You like it. that's all you need to do to make that claim. Or you dislike it.)
That's the consistency.

[Divair]

Did you not see what I posted? Denmark, Norway and Sweden always appear in the top 10 of the lists of GDP per capita.

you didnt post anything about russia or ukraine and about poland just the unemployme.t ratio from who knows which year. i will post the facts frpm the ecb and imf when i ce home. plus i really can aswer on every ppst.

Russia and Ukraine are even worse off.

Russia: $13,000 GDP per capita.
Ukraine: $7,200 GDP per capita.

[Scholencia]

okay it is true that religious countries hadnt money at the begining but yet they are having economic development while countries like north korea or uk were far more better in the past. it is a fact whether like it or not.

compare the gdp ratio of poland and sweden and there you will see it. i am on a pone now so it is diffucult for me right now.

According to the IMF:

Sweden: $57,638 per capita
Poland: $13,469 per capita

Obviously, Poland is better.

EDIT: Norway is even better, at $97,607

Ooh, Denmark managed $59,709

Poland has more people than swesen which is why you cqnnot compare per capita. the issue here is on gdp growth per year.

[Divair]

According to the IMF:

Sweden: $57,638 per capita
Poland: $13,469 per capita

Obviously, Poland is better.

EDIT: Norway is even better, at $97,607

Ooh, Denmark managed $59,709

Poland has more people than swesen which is why you cqnnot compare per capita. the issue here is on gdp growth per year.

Do you know what "per capita" means?

[Mavorpen]

According to the IMF:

Sweden: $57,638 per capita
Poland: $13,469 per capita

Obviously, Poland is better.

EDIT: Norway is even better, at $97,607

Ooh, Denmark managed $59,709

Poland has more people than swesen which is why you cqnnot compare per capita. the issue here is on gdp growth per year.

Backwards. Per capita is the one that takes population into account.

[Dyakovo]

With mockery.

All my debates are like that.

I'm just a dick, basically. You should try it, it's fun.

Have you read my posts?
You're preaching to the choir...

[New Sapienta]

ostoeuropa --
You think it's good to ridicule people for unfounded beliefs
So you ridicule people for liking music?
because there are 2 ways to make a well-founded claim:
1/ based on evidence OR
2/ based on widely held beliefs.

there is NO evidential basis for any ethics or aesthetics
So you ought to ridicule people for being artists -- or doing good deeds
That would at least be consistent with your position

I would mock someone for claiming music was inherently good.
You have a very firm foundation to claim you like music. (You like it. that's all you need to do to make that claim. Or you dislike it.)
That's the consistency.

Murder of innocents is bad.

Now prove that, or ridicule me.

[Ovisterra]

According to the IMF:

Sweden: $57,638 per capita
Poland: $13,469 per capita

Obviously, Poland is better.

EDIT: Norway is even better, at $97,607

Ooh, Denmark managed $59,709

Poland has more people than swesen which is why you cqnnot compare per capita. the issue here is on gdp growth per year.

Per capita means "per person", so yes, you can compare.

[Scholencia]

you didnt post anything about russia or ukraine and about poland just the unemployme.t ratio from who knows which year. i will post the facts frpm the ecb and imf when i ce home. plus i really can aswer on every ppst.

Russia and Ukraine are even worse off.

Russia: $13,000 GDP per capita.
Ukraine: $7,200 GDP per capita.

and again russia and ukraine gave more populatin than sweden so the result is that russia has more gdp than sweden.

[The Emerald Dawn]

Poland has more people than swesen which is why you cqnnot compare per capita. the issue here is on gdp growth per year.

Do you know what "per capita" means?

Fact. Immune.

[Divair]

Russia and Ukraine are even worse off.

Russia: $13,000 GDP per capita.
Ukraine: $7,200 GDP per capita.

and again russia and ukraine gave more populatin than sweden so the result is that russia has more gdp than sweden.

Do you know what "per capita" means?

[Ovisterra]

All my debates are like that.

I'm just a dick, basically. You should try it, it's fun.

Have you read my posts?
You're preaching to the choir...

Calling people dicks without consulting them first seems rude. I just assume good faith.

[Ostroeuropa]

I would mock someone for claiming music was inherently good.
You have a very firm foundation to claim you like music. (You like it. that's all you need to do to make that claim. Or you dislike it.)
That's the consistency.

Murder of innocents is bad.

Now prove that, or ridicule me.

You'll need to define bad first.
I define it as contrary to the wishes of those whose consent would be required.
For good reasons we inherited a lot of our morality from our biology. The rest is a social construct.

[Common Territories]

Your wrong. There are various beliefs held by Atheists that vary from person to person. Like I explained some believe in different things while the basic is yes as you stated the "No God" principle which most believe in if not all.

No, atheists just don't believe in a god.
Is Not Believing in the pink unicorn an act of faith?
Is not believing that elvis is still alive "Just your opinion and equal of value since it's faith based"?
No ofcourse not.

Your being ignorantly wrong. You choose your faith so if you believe Elvis is still alive or that a pink unicorn then you can choose to believe it. Some people believe the Holocaust didn't happen, yes they are dumb and ignorant to facts but guess what. It's a faith because they believe in that being the truth no matter how idiotic it is. Im not gonna bother with re-explaining things to the NS community because it seems that most of you don't under stand what religion truly is. Faith is one thing you people are skipping over for one.

[New Sapienta]

Have you read my posts?
You're preaching to the choir...

Calling people dicks without consulting them first seems rude. I just assume good faith.

Mock.

Haha.

Ridicule.

[Grimlundt]

Music is amoral, duh

Ethics is the field where we discuss good and evil
And there is NO EVIDENTIARY basis for ethics

[Dyakovo]

Poland has more people than swesen which is why you cqnnot compare per capita. the issue here is on gdp growth per year.

Do you know what "per capita" means?

Obviously not... Just like he has no clue about economics...

[Ostroeuropa]

No, atheists just don't believe in a god.
Is Not Believing in the pink unicorn an act of faith?
Is not believing that elvis is still alive "Just your opinion and equal of value since it's faith based"?
No ofcourse not.

Your being ignorantly wrong. You choose your faith so if you believe Elvis is still alive or that a pink unicorn then you can choose to believe it. Some people believe the Holocaust didn't happen, yes they are dumb and ignorant to facts but guess what. It's a faith because they believe in that being the truth no matter how idiotic it is. Im not gonna bother with re-explaining things to the NS community because it seems that most of you don't under stand what religion truly is. Faith is one thing you people are skipping over for one.

You have utterly missed the point.
Do you believe in the invisible pink unicorn?
If you don't, are you being equally faithful as I am for believing in the unicorn?

[Norsklow]

I would mock someone for claiming music was inherently good.
You have a very firm foundation to claim you like music. (You like it. that's all you need to do to make that claim. Or you dislike it.)
That's the consistency.

Murder of innocents is bad.

Now prove that, or ridicule me.

You're a nutter who identifies with that unglorious asshole Bon Vismarck. You smell, dog!

[New Sapienta]

Murder of innocents is bad.

Now prove that, or ridicule me.

You'll need to define bad first.
I define it as contrary to the wishes of those whose consent would be required.
For good reasons we inherited a lot of our morality from our biology. The rest is a social construct.

Bad, as in objectivaly bad.

Like it or not, their is no universal bad. Their is no obejctive bad. That means acting like their is, is making a ridiculous claim.

They then deserve ridicule.