Atheism and religious hate

[Ostroeuropa]

Anti-theists will, indeed, someday set about the violent destruction of religion. They preach for freedom and tolerance and yet they cannot tolerate people who merely wish to worship their god(s) in the private of their own homes. I can't wrap my head around them.

Tell me, if you did it privately in your own home, how would I know you are religious?

[Vestr-Norig]

I can't remember having ever hurt anyone because of my religious belief...?
The number you're talking about here would be extremely small, and almost non-existent in the Christian world. The vast majority of religions preach about love and tolerance, not hatred and violence, and so does the people of these religions.

That must by why the catholic church, the largest christian denomination, publically supports discrimination based on gender and sexuality.
I'm sure THAT doesn't inspire gay bashing at all.
I'm sure their insistence that condoms are bad doesn't kill millions of africans. etc.

The Catholic church does not support violence or hatred towards gay people. Yes, they do oppose to gay-marriage and gays adopting children, however, this is purely a political and ideological stance, indeed influenced by Christianity itself. However, their stance on these issues does not encourage neither hatred nor violence.

[Republic of Liberty and Freedom]

Anti-theists will, indeed, someday set about the violent destruction of religion. They preach for freedom and tolerance and yet they cannot tolerate people who merely wish to worship their god(s) in the private of their own homes. I can't wrap my head around them.

But they dont, every government has ministers and elected representatives who are religious and bend over to include their own religious beliefs in Laws and govt business. The judiciary is riddled with such creatures. I'd like to know what country this is that your talking about so I can move there

[Great Nepal]

Anti-theists will, indeed, someday set about the violent destruction of religion. They preach for freedom and tolerance and yet they cannot tolerate people who merely wish to worship their god(s) in the private of their own homes. I can't wrap my head around them.

Tell me, if you did it privately in your own home, how would I know you are religious?

Didn't you know, atheist hive-mind passed resolution yesterday, hiring spies to spy on theist and their homes.

[Ostroeuropa]

That must by why the catholic church, the largest christian denomination, publically supports discrimination based on gender and sexuality.
I'm sure THAT doesn't inspire gay bashing at all.
I'm sure their insistence that condoms are bad doesn't kill millions of africans. etc.

The Catholic church does not support violence or hatred towards gay people. Yes, they do oppose to gay-marriage and gays adopting children, however, this is purely a political and ideological stance, indeed influenced by Christianity itself. However, their stance on these issues does not encourage neither hatred nor violence.

It IS hatred.
It encourages violence by insinuating otherness. If you study psych or sociology you'll know exactly why that encourages violence.

[Europa Concordis]

Anti-theists are perhaps the worst people in the world.
Hypocritically, many of them are of the left wing and espouse values such as tolerance and equality, yet they can't tolerate religion when it does no harm to them.

Truly, conceited atheists are the scum of the globe for their intolerance, hypocrisy and just plain meanness.

Irony at its finest.

There's nothing ironic about it.
It would be ironic if I said all anti-theists should be killed. But I didn't.
I merely said that they're mean, which they objectively are. No irony whatsoever.

Anti-theists are perhaps the worst people in the world.
Hypocritically, many of them are of the left wing and espouse values such as tolerance and equality, yet they can't tolerate religion when it does no harm to them.

Truly, conceited atheists are the scum of the globe for their intolerance, hypocrisy and just plain meanness.

What a bastion of tolerance you are showing yourself to be. Look here good people for a true believer in good ole christian values, here is your idol.

Funny, isn't it? Considering I'm not a Christian. Oh well, I guess that's the way the world works.

[Divair]

There's nothing ironic about it.
It would be ironic if I said all anti-theists should be killed. But I didn't.
I merely said that they're mean, which they objectively are. No irony whatsoever.

It's ironic because you preach tolerance yet make sweeping generalizations of an entire group of varied people.

[The Equine Dominion]

Anti-theists will, indeed, someday set about the violent destruction of religion. They preach for freedom and tolerance and yet they cannot tolerate people who merely wish to worship their god(s) in the private of their own homes. I can't wrap my head around them.

Tell me, if you did it privately in your own home, how would I know you are religious?

I'm assuming the same way the inquisitions "knew" atheists were atheists. By guessing followed by torture.

[Mavorpen]

Tell me, if you did it privately in your own home, how would I know you are religious?

Didn't you know, atheist hive-mind passed resolution yesterday, hiring spies to spy on theist and their homes.

"Uh... I know you want to watch us to see if we're praying, but we're about to have sex."

*staring creepily at them* "I'm sorry ma'am, I can't do that. What if you pray afterwards?"

"Who prays after— You know what? Fuck it, I'll stop being a Christian."

BRILLIANT!

[Ostroeuropa]

Tell me, if you did it privately in your own home, how would I know you are religious?

I'm assuming the same way the inquisitions "knew" atheists were atheists. By guessing followed by torture.

Actually they didnt target atheists.
You are ignorant of history, which unsuprising given that you hold a belief one can ONLY hold by being ignorant of the history surrounding the events of the time. HURFDURF Census tax in Bethelhem (nope) etc.
They targetted Secret Jews and Secret Muslims.
How?
Offering people pork.
If you refused, they marked you down as a possible jew/muslim and stalked you for further evidence.

[Divair]

Tell me, if you did it privately in your own home, how would I know you are religious?

I'm assuming the same way the inquisitions "knew" atheists were atheists. By guessing followed by torture.

You know the inquisition was about the Jews.. right?

[Great Nepal]

Didn't you know, atheist hive-mind passed resolution yesterday, hiring spies to spy on theist and their homes.

"Uh... I know you want to watch us to see if we're praying, but we're about to have sex."

*staring creepily at them* "I'm sorry ma'am, I can't do that. What if you pray afterwards?"

"Who prays after— You know what? Fuck it, I'll stop being a Christian."

BRILLIANT!

Fine, but you must now be part of the hivemind which will involve complex procedure; transforming you to drone... that way, we can be sure you will abide by instructions issued by the hivemind are are not part of heresy.

[Vestr-Norig]

The Catholic church does not support violence or hatred towards gay people. Yes, they do oppose to gay-marriage and gays adopting children, however, this is purely a political and ideological stance, indeed influenced by Christianity itself. However, their stance on these issues does not encourage neither hatred nor violence.

It IS hatred.
It encourages violence by insinuating otherness. If you study psych or sociology you'll know exactly why that encourages violence.

Not at all. While some may interpret it in a way that they feel justifies violence, their means will still oppose radically to the church's stance on the issue. The same way you can say that a prominent atheist organization's bashing of Christians and Christianity could influence people into extreme hatred or even violence towards Christians.

[Europa Concordis]

There's nothing ironic about it.
It would be ironic if I said all anti-theists should be killed. But I didn't.
I merely said that they're mean, which they objectively are. No irony whatsoever.

It's ironic because you preach tolerance yet make sweeping generalizations of an entire group of varied people.

They're varied, but they share one thing: Anti-theism. I'm against anti-theism; I'm an anti-anti-theist, if you will. So, no. I'm not generalizing. I'm calling all intolerant people who advocate the destruction of religion for no good reason scum, which they are.

Just to clarify, here is what Dictionary.com has to say about the word "generalization".

"1. a proposition asserting something to be true of all members of a certain class or of an indefinite part of that class"
If I had said, "all anti-theists are objectivists". Then, yes, I'd be generalizing. But I said anti-theists are anti-theistic, which is not a generalization at all.

[Mavorpen]

"Uh... I know you want to watch us to see if we're praying, but we're about to have sex."

*staring creepily at them* "I'm sorry ma'am, I can't do that. What if you pray afterwards?"

"Who prays after— You know what? Fuck it, I'll stop being a Christian."

BRILLIANT!

Fine, but you must now be part of the hivemind which will involve complex procedure; transforming you to drone... that way, we can be sure you will abide by instructions issued by the hivemind are are not part of heresy.

Sounds kinky.

[Samuraikoku]

I merely said that they're mean, which they objectively are. No irony whatsoever.

There's plenty of fish in the sea, have you caught them all?

Gotta catch 'em all, GOTTA CATCH 'EM ALL!

[Ostroeuropa]

It IS hatred.
It encourages violence by insinuating otherness. If you study psych or sociology you'll know exactly why that encourages violence.

Not at all. While some may interpret it in a way that they feel justifies violence, their means will still oppose radically to the church's stance on the issue. The same way you can say that a prominent atheist's bashing of Christians and Christianity could influence people into extreme hatred or even violence towards Christians.

We aren't insinuating otherness. Noone here calls christianity unnatural. There is a big difference.
The posistion of anti-homosexuality insinuates otherness as justification, and that encourages violence.
Pick up a psychology text book and come back with a decent rebuttal other than just flatly denying it. Until then you are attempting to just magic up a response like revelation or some shit.
It isn't an interperatation, it's a fact. Otherness increases hostility.

[Samuraikoku]

They're varied, but they share one thing: Anti-theism. I'm against anti-theism; I'm an anti-anti-theist, if you will. So, no. I'm not generalizing. I'm calling all intolerant people who advocate the destruction of religion for no good reason scum, which they are.

Just to clarify, here is what Dictionary.com has to say about the word "generalization".

"1. a proposition asserting something to be true of all members of a certain class or of an indefinite part of that class"
If I had said, "all anti-theists are objectivists". Then, yes, I'd be generalizing. But I said anti-theists are anti-theistic, which is not a generalization at all.

Theravada Buddhism, atheist. Your argument is invalid.

[Divair]

It's ironic because you preach tolerance yet make sweeping generalizations of an entire group of varied people.

They're varied, but they share one thing: Anti-theism. I'm against anti-theism; I'm an anti-anti-theist, if you will. So, no. I'm not generalizing. I'm calling all intolerant people who advocate the destruction of religion for no good reason scum, which they are.

Just to clarify, here is what Dictionary.com has to say about the word "generalization".

"1. a proposition asserting something to be true of all members of a certain class or of an indefinite part of that class"
If I had said, "all anti-theists are objectivists". Then, yes, I'd be generalizing. But I said anti-theists are anti-theistic, which is not a generalization at all.

You're still making a generalization that anti-theists are some sort of oppressive authoritarian group that wants to execute the religious. This is objectively not true. There are people like that, but there are also other people in the anti-theist group. Say, people who only oppose organized religion. Or who advocate getting rid of religion through education, not violence.

[Republic of Liberty and Freedom]

It's ironic because you preach tolerance yet make sweeping generalizations of an entire group of varied people.

They're varied, but they share one thing: Anti-theism. I'm against anti-theism; I'm an anti-anti-theist, if you will. So, no. I'm not generalizing. I'm calling all intolerant people who advocate the destruction of religion for no good reason scum, which they are.

Just to clarify, here is what Dictionary.com has to say about the word "generalization".

"1. a proposition asserting something to be true of all members of a certain class or of an indefinite part of that class"
If I had said, "all anti-theists are objectivists". Then, yes, I'd be generalizing. But I said anti-theists are anti-theistic, which is not a generalization at all.

Religion and all other lies do nothing but hold back human progression and instill moronic and barbaric traditions such as circumcision in the populace. Religions are used by the ruling classes to keep the lower classes down, look at Russia where organized religion Organised Stupidity is making a comeback under Putin.Its a means to control the ignorant masses,nothing more.

[Sociobiology]

I never said against atheists, but yes. Do you know what apostasy is?
religious people use violence against lots of people with no justification beside religious ones.

I can't remember having ever hurt anyone because of my religious belief...?
The number you're talking about here would be extremely small, and almost non-existent in the Christian world. The vast majority of religions preach about love and tolerance, not hatred and violence, and so does the people of these religions.

so ireland, does not exist?
or the middle east or any one of a dozen places were people are killing for religion?
the KKK ceased to exist? pro-lifers did not just kill doctors? I wnet to school in a town were the locals tied a gay kid to fence and beat him to death. Whether or not you think it is a misinterpretation of religion it is still religion, because by using faith there can be no misinterpretations.

[Sociobiology]

They're varied, but they share one thing: Anti-theism. I'm against anti-theism; I'm an anti-anti-theist, if you will. So, no. I'm not generalizing. I'm calling all intolerant people who advocate the destruction of religion for no good reason scum, which they are.

Just to clarify, here is what Dictionary.com has to say about the word "generalization".

"1. a proposition asserting something to be true of all members of a certain class or of an indefinite part of that class"
If I had said, "all anti-theists are objectivists". Then, yes, I'd be generalizing. But I said anti-theists are anti-theistic, which is not a generalization at all.

Theravada Buddhism, atheist. Your argument is invalid.

you do realize there have been Buddhist religious wars right?
The Kalachakra Tantra even mentions them.

[Ostroeuropa]

I can think of no thing that religious faith has done that is good and could not have been done by secular means.
I can think of plenty of evil that has been done by religious faith that either hasn't been or COULDN'T be done by secular means.


With religion, no morality, one is permitted to commit any act. You just have to say the most evil words in the english language, god wills it / god on our side etc.

[Europa Concordis]

You're still making a generalization that anti-theists are some sort of oppressive authoritarian group that wants to execute the religious. This is objectively not true. There are people like that, but there are also other people in the anti-theist group. Say, people who only oppose organized religion. Or who advocate getting rid of religion through education, not violence.

Where did I say this?
I said anti-theists are intolerant of religion, which is undeniably a fact, the very term "anti-theist" supports this.

And what is there to educate? Atheists have no proof that a deity or deities of some sort don't exist. A people's beliefs are their own, to judge someone else or to think of them as inferior to yourself because of their faith is simply wrong.
Such a person is no different from say, Robespierre or Jacques Hébert. The only difference is that they haven't actually gotten as far as murdering people and defacing places of worship yet, and probably never will.

[Ostroeuropa]

You're still making a generalization that anti-theists are some sort of oppressive authoritarian group that wants to execute the religious. This is objectively not true. There are people like that, but there are also other people in the anti-theist group. Say, people who only oppose organized religion. Or who advocate getting rid of religion through education, not violence.

Where did I say this?
I said anti-theists are intolerant of religion, which is undeniably a fact, the very term "anti-theist" supports this.

And what is there to educate? Atheists have no proof that a deity or deities of some sort don't exist. A people's beliefs are their own, to judge someone else or to think of them as inferior to yourself because of their faith is simply wrong.
Such a person is no different from say, Robespierre or Jacques Hébert. The only difference is that they haven't actually gotten as far as murdering people and defacing places of worship yet, and probably never will.

Your ignorance of how proof works is one of the reasons I am intolerant.
Not knowing how logic works means I can't use it on you. So I just have to mock you etc.