Atheism and religious hate

[Srboslavija]

I can't speak for all but with time I think even the more conservative Christians will be more accepting of the LGBT community, instead of simply condemning it.

And your evidence for this is?

I believe it's part of a growing global trend.

[Meridiani Planum]

I do not hate atheists

Thank you. I don't hate you either.

the only cause I've been given to hate on certain atheists is when a certain group of atheists (I'm referring to the Anti-Theist crowd) decide to hate on religion, to call it's proponents stupid, to claim that it is a disease, to claim it is a cancer on the Earth, that it must be fought with a Secular Crusade (oxymoron?) and completely annihilated

I dislike that sort of atheist. I'm not an anti-theist, though I wouldn't mind seeing religion disappear naturally, like shadows in the dawn.

or in the case of the some big wigs in the U.K. merely most public displays of religion should be annihilated.

If such displays are using government property, I would agree. I personally favor a separation of church and state, but that doesn't mean that public displays of religion should be against the law. Rather, no one should be able to use the government (or its property) as a tool for spreading religion.

I have no problem with the atheists that say "I do not believe in God because I find there is no proof of God". I do however harbor a passionate dislike for someone who says, for example, that by funding my local catholic church, helping in St. Vincent de Paul, ect. that I'm stupid, ignorant, blind, and diseased, that if I do not forsake my religious beliefs that I should be put to death or ostracized from society.

I'm totally with you there.

My question to you is have you seen this coming tide?

Honestly, I think that you are exaggerating, and this isn't a "coming tide". It's more assholes being assholes. I don't think that anything like real persecution of theists is arriving in the West. You seem to have a martyr complex.

That said, I do think that anti-theism is on the rise among atheists, and even if that remains harmless politically, I don't think that it is such a good thing for their sake. Atheists need an educated and balanced view of religion, not some hysterical extremism that satisfies their need to distance themselves psychologically from religion.

[Esternial]

And your evidence for this is?

I believe it's part of a growing global trend.

Emphasis on believe

That's not even a big crowd, but I'm admitting that it's slowly restoring whatever is left of the device that restores faith in humanity.

[Indira]

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This image made my day and I'm straight:D

[Divair]

This image made my day and I'm straight:D

Not hard to appreciate tolerance

[Nidaria]

The poll makes me even more afraid....
In any case, there is always another group hating another group because of that group's beliefs. This is the most recent and the deepest conflict so far.

[Tlaceceyaya]

The poll makes me even more afraid....
In any case, there is always another group hating another group because of that group's beliefs. This is the most recent and the deepest conflict so far.

Can't people just read the first page or two? They'd realize then that the people voting aren't advocating violence, but are okay with ridicule.

[Divair]

The poll makes me even more afraid....
In any case, there is always another group hating another group because of that group's beliefs. This is the most recent and the deepest conflict so far.

Can't people just read the first page or two? They'd realize then that the people voting aren't advocating violence, but are okay with ridicule.

Because free speech is cool.

[Nidaria]

Can't people just read the first page or two? They'd realize then that the people voting aren't advocating violence, but are okay with ridicule.

Because free speech is cool.

There is a line between "free speech" and "hate speech."

[Divair]

Because free speech is cool.

There is a line between "free speech" and "hate speech."

Subjective and arbitrary.

[Ifreann]

I approve of a tide of secularism, and reject the premise that it will be any more violent than the normal course of human affairs.

[Meridiani Planum]

Because free speech is cool.

There is a line between "free speech" and "hate speech."

Yes, free speech is speech critical of others that we tolerate, and hate speech is speech critical of others that we don't. It's all very objective.

[Tlaceceyaya]

Because free speech is cool.

There is a line between "free speech" and "hate speech."

Yep. Hate speech is inflammatory. I haven't seen any atheist in this thread advocate hate speech yet.

[Sociobiology]

There is a line between "free speech" and "hate speech."

Yep. Hate speech is inflammatory. I haven't seen any atheist in this thread advocate hate speech yet.

this.

[Furious Grandmothers]

For me, I just want humanity to question everything and think critically. Religion is basically antithetical to that.

[Socialist Monarchies]

For me, I just want humanity to question everything and think critically. Religion is basically antithetical to that.

I don't think so, I'm religious and I question everything critically, then again, I'm also a cynical asshole who knows thinks he knows everything. You think that might have something to do with it?

[Seperates]

For me, I just want humanity to question everything and think critically. Religion is basically antithetical to that.

I don't think so, I'm religious and I question everything critically, then again, I'm also a cynical asshole who knows thinks he knows everything. You think that might have something to do with it?

You really aren't questioning if you never consider the possibility that you could be absolutely and completely wrong.

[Nidaria]

I don't think so, I'm religious and I question everything critically, then again, I'm also a cynical asshole who knows thinks he knows everything. You think that might have something to do with it?

You really aren't questioning if you never consider the possibility that you could be absolutely and completely wrong.

And if you do consider the possibility? I have considered it myself, and I am somewhat religious.

[Mavorpen]

You really aren't questioning if you never consider the possibility that you could be absolutely and completely wrong.

And if you do consider the possibility? I have considered it myself, and I am somewhat religious.

*Looks at your sig*

Loyal Roman Catholic.

Seems legit.

[Socialist Monarchies]

I don't think so, I'm religious and I question everything critically, then again, I'm also a cynical asshole who knows thinks he knows everything. You think that might have something to do with it?

You really aren't questioning if you never consider the possibility that you could be absolutely and completely wrong.

I always that, but then I remember that I'm always right and scold myself for doubting myself.

[Divair]

And if you do consider the possibility? I have considered it myself, and I am somewhat religious.

*Looks at your sig*

Loyal Roman Catholic.

Seems legit.

I'd focus more on the "anti-gay, anti-choice" part.

[Seperates]

You really aren't questioning if you never consider the possibility that you could be absolutely and completely wrong.

And if you do consider the possibility? I have considered it myself, and I am somewhat religious.

Keep searching. It's not getting to the truth that's important... it's the life long journey.

[Socialist Monarchies]

*Looks at your sig*

Loyal Roman Catholic.

Seems legit.

I'd focus more on the "anti-gay, anti-choice" part.

Freakin' Catholics!

[Nidaria]

*Looks at your sig*

Loyal Roman Catholic.

Seems legit.

I'd focus more on the "anti-gay, anti-choice" part.

If you are going to quote me, then at least put down the exact wording, and type "pro-life."

[Divair]

I'd focus more on the "anti-gay, anti-choice" part.

Freakin' Catholics!

Er, no connection. I've met plenty of decent Catholics. It's the level of extremism that's being debated.