Atheism and religious hate

[Grimlundt]

But it is a sort of belief.

Atheism is a sort of belief in that there is no God or spiritual force.

Wrong. Atheism is the lack of belief in a God/gods.

OMG
Atheism is a "belief."
But it is not a religion.
Not all beliefs are religious. LOL

[Mavorpen]

Wrong. Atheism is the lack of belief in a God/gods.

OMG
Atheism is a "belief."
But it is not a religion.
Not all beliefs are religious. LOL

atheism Pronunciation: /ˈeɪθɪɪz(ə)m/
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Definition of atheism
noun
[mass noun]
disbelief or lack of belief in the existence of God or gods.

[Grimlundt]

Absolutely.
Atheism is not "just another religion"
Christianity, esp. is a religion of "faith" -- ipso facto, "trust in things unseen" as it says in the Bible
This is opposite of atheism

[Tlaceceyaya]

Absolutely.
Atheism is not "just another religion"
Christianity, esp. is a religion of "faith" -- ipso facto, "trust in things unseen" as it says in the Bible
This is opposite of atheism

Atheism is not a religion at all.
However, not collecting stamps is a hobby. Billions of people partake in it.

[Grimlundt]

Absolutely.
Atheism is not "just another religion"
Christianity, esp. is a religion of "faith" -- ipso facto, "trust in things unseen" as it says in the Bible
This is opposite of atheism

Atheism is not a religion at all.
However, not collecting stamps is a hobby. Billions of people partake in it.

If Christians are "justified" (i.e. going to Heaven) by *faith*"
Then isn't it sort of ... um crazy? to accuse the faithless of having *faith* -- ?

[Grimlundt]

P.s. Bonobos rule!

[Cestyr]

Some people don't get it. You can be a thiest, or you can be an athiest. Thiesm isn't a religion in itself, it just means you believe in a religion. Athiesm is the opposite of Thiesm therefore it also isn't a religion.

[Yankee Empire]

It's good to see that atheists admit they support hate when it suits them, then again this was observed in the communist factions of Russia and Spain.

Try reading through the thread. If you actually READ, you'd see that those same people also say that they don't give a shit if you ridicule them. Also, they NEVER said anything about hate.

Try again, but this time try to base your post in reality.

"base you post in reality", duuhh OK.

I'll refrain from putting it in unreality next time, master of all reality as you clearly are...

[Grimlundt]

Well
I have a magic little poodle in my pocket.
What?
You don't believe me?

I put it to you that your non-belief in my pocket poodle is as active and affirmative as, say, my own belief in my pocket poodle (he's magic!).

That does not make both beliefs "equal" or "the same" ...

But Atheism is not simply a lack of belief. It is a wold view based, perhaps, in skepticism? Perhaps in disgust with the deeds of religions ...

I think it is a mistake to see knowledge -- or beliefs -- as "positive" or "negative"
I am not saying that there is no difference between belief in God and disbelief -- quite the opposite!
But disbelief is an activity. It is an act?
Not an act of faith, though.

But I am by no means sure ...

[Tlaceceyaya]

Well
I have a magic little poodle in my pocket.
What?
You don't believe me?

I put it to you that your non-belief in my pocket poodle is as active and affirmative as, say, my own belief in my pocket poodle (he's magic!).

That does not make both beliefs "equal" or "the same" ...

But Atheism is not simply a lack of belief. It is a wold view based, perhaps, in skepticism? Perhaps in disgust with the deeds of religions ...

I think it is a mistake to see knowledge -- or beliefs -- as "positive" or "negative"
I am not saying that there is no difference between belief in God and disbelief -- quite the opposite!
But disbelief is an activity. It is an act?
Not an act of faith, though.

But I am by no means sure ...

Please stop posting like that. The partial sentences with, in many cases, a new line each sentence and little direct continuity is annoying.

1: My disbelief in your pocket poodle is not the same as your belief in it. I simply lack belief in it.
2: Atheism is, simply, a lack of belief. Its from the greek Atheos, which means without god. It itself has two components - a and theos. A meaning not/negative/without/etc. and theos meaning god. Atheism is the lack of belief in a deity or deities, nothing more.

And I honestly can't follow your line of thought after that.

[Grimlundt]

Well
I have a magic little poodle in my pocket.
What?
You don't believe me?

I put it to you that your non-belief in my pocket poodle is as active and affirmative as, say, my own belief in my pocket poodle (he's magic!).

That does not make both beliefs "equal" or "the same" ...

But Atheism is not simply a lack of belief. It is a wold view based, perhaps, in skepticism? Perhaps in disgust with the deeds of religions ...

I think it is a mistake to see knowledge -- or beliefs -- as "positive" or "negative"
I am not saying that there is no difference between belief in God and disbelief -- quite the opposite!
But disbelief is an activity. It is an act?
Not an act of faith, though.

But I am by no means sure ...

Please stop posting like that. The partial sentences with, in many cases, a new line each sentence and little direct continuity is annoying.

1: My disbelief in your pocket poodle is not the same as your belief in it. I simply lack belief in it.
2: Atheism is, simply, a lack of belief. Its from the greek Atheos, which means without god. It itself has two components - a and theos. A meaning not/negative/without/etc. and theos meaning god. Atheism is the lack of belief in a deity or deities, nothing more.

And I honestly can't follow your line of thought after that.

So you think hate is a lack of love and all that yada yada
And you think that evolution is self-evident, yada yada
LOL

By the way, don;t you think arguing from definitions is sort schoolboy debating?

[Ardunshin]

In response to the content of the OT: I certainly hope no one actually wishes me harm because I believe in a greater sense of being.
If they do, they need psychiatric help. And, failing that, a bullet in the face. And, before someone accuses me of advocating violence, I merely advocate self defence.

[Erinkita]

In response to the content of the OT: I certainly hope no one actually wishes me harm because I believe in a greater sense of being.
If they do, they need psychiatric help. And, failing that, a bullet in the face. And, before someone accuses me of advocating violence, I merely advocate self defence.

No one does.

[New Rogernomics]

Please stop posting like that. The partial sentences with, in many cases, a new line each sentence and little direct continuity is annoying.

1: My disbelief in your pocket poodle is not the same as your belief in it. I simply lack belief in it.
2: Atheism is, simply, a lack of belief. Its from the greek Atheos, which means without god. It itself has two components - a and theos. A meaning not/negative/without/etc. and theos meaning god. Atheism is the lack of belief in a deity or deities, nothing more.

And I honestly can't follow your line of thought after that.

So you think hate is a lack of love and all that yada yada
And you think that evolution is self-evident, yada yada
LOL

By the way, don;t you think arguing from definitions is sort schoolboy debating?

Better than being a slut to Jesus.

[Ardunshin]

In response to the content of the OT: I certainly hope no one actually wishes me harm because I believe in a greater sense of being.
If they do, they need psychiatric help. And, failing that, a bullet in the face. And, before someone accuses me of advocating violence, I merely advocate self defence.

No one does.

Fair enough, I was merely voicing an opinion regarding the topic of the thread. The concept of hatred based on difference in beliefs sounds like pure nonsense to me.

[Grimlundt]

I really want to know how you can assert something and not see it as an act?
As merely the absence negation of an act.
Didn't Sartre teach you that even the decision not to decide is still a decision?

Please stop posting like that. The partial sentences with, in many cases, a new line each sentence and little direct continuity is annoying.

1: My disbelief in your pocket poodle is not the same as your belief in it. I simply lack belief in it.
2: Atheism is, simply, a lack of belief. Its from the greek Atheos, which means without god. It itself has two components - a and theos. A meaning not/negative/without/etc. and theos meaning god. Atheism is the lack of belief in a deity or deities, nothing more.

And I honestly can't follow your line of thought after that.

So you think hate is a lack of love and all that yada yada
And you think that evolution is self-evident, yada yada
LOL

By the way, don;t you think arguing from definitions is sort schoolboy debating?

[New England and The Maritimes]

I don't see any need to pretend that I respect religion. I think it's a petty, mostly-useless safety blanket that should have been tossed aside a very long time ago, as it's long outlived its usefulness. The idea that something being popular should also mean it can't be criticized is a bad idea.

[Tlaceceyaya]

Please stop posting like that. The partial sentences with, in many cases, a new line each sentence and little direct continuity is annoying.

1: My disbelief in your pocket poodle is not the same as your belief in it. I simply lack belief in it.
2: Atheism is, simply, a lack of belief. Its from the greek Atheos, which means without god. It itself has two components - a and theos. A meaning not/negative/without/etc. and theos meaning god. Atheism is the lack of belief in a deity or deities, nothing more.

And I honestly can't follow your line of thought after that.

So you think hate is a lack of love and all that yada yada
And you think that evolution is self-evident, yada yada
LOL

By the way, don;t you think arguing from definitions is sort schoolboy debating?

1: No. Love is an emotion. Hate is a different emotion. Feeling a lack of love is a lack of love. Feeling a lack of hate is a lack of hate.

2: Evolution is an observation, so... I suppose, depending on the parameters of what you would consider to make something self-evident, yes.

3: First, you are insisting that a word does not mean what it means. Is it some sort of crime to use a dictionary to show that someone is using a word incorrectly? Secondly, if by schoolboy debating, you mean that it is immature, then I do find excessive smilies and text speech to be a sign of immaturity in a debate.

[Erinkita]

No one does.

Fair enough, I was merely voicing an opinion regarding the topic of the thread. The concept of hatred based on difference in beliefs sounds like pure nonsense to me.

Depends on what beliefs we're talking about, but in the vast majority of cases I agree with you.

[Ardunshin]

Fair enough, I was merely voicing an opinion regarding the topic of the thread. The concept of hatred based on difference in beliefs sounds like pure nonsense to me.

Depends on what beliefs we're talking about, but in the vast majority of cases I agree with you.

I see what you mean, beliefs which are a threat to other people's human rights are worthy of hatred at least.

[New Rogernomics]

I really want to know how you can assert something and not see it as an act?
As merely the absence negation of an act.
Didn't Sartre teach you that even the decision not to decide is still a decision?

Didn't Phil 101 teach you that repeating BS, doesn't make it true. If it did you did you would stop pushing that man was made out of mud, coupled with a rib woman; and accept the theory of evolution.

[New Rogernomics]

I don't see any need to pretend that I respect religion. I think it's a petty, mostly-useless safety blanket that should have been tossed aside a very long time ago, as it's long outlived its usefulness. The idea that something being popular should also mean it can't be criticized is a bad idea.

Yep, but it makes great memes.

[Tlaceceyaya]

I really want to know how you can assert something and not see it as an act?
As merely the absence negation of an act.
Didn't Sartre teach you that even the decision not to decide is still a decision?

Didn't Phil 101 teach you that repeating BS, doesn't make it true. If it did you did you would stop pushing that man was made out of mud, coupled with a rib woman; and accept the theory of evolution.

Observation of evolution. The theory's evolution by natural selection.

[Erinkita]

Depends on what beliefs we're talking about, but in the vast majority of cases I agree with you.

I see what you mean, beliefs which are a threat to other people's human rights are worthy of hatred at least.

Unfortunately so. Hatred isn't a very useful emotion and it would be nice to be able to do without it, but it doesn't seem possible.
We can at least reserve it for people who are actually a threat to our wellbeing.

[Ardunshin]

I see what you mean, beliefs which are a threat to other people's human rights are worthy of hatred at least.

Unfortunately so. Hatred isn't a very useful emotion and it would be nice to be able to do without it, but it doesn't seem possible.
We can at least reserve it for people who are actually a threat to our wellbeing.

True, where there are humans, there will be disagreement. And also hatred. I don't like either. But, as they are an integral part of humanity, I try to accept both. And only resort to the latter in serious situations.