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Postby Orcoa » Wed Oct 31, 2012 7:58 pm

Menassa wrote:
Kintuckistan wrote:As I Christian, i do think we will be pushed further and further to the boundaries of society.

I honestly would not be surprised if we had a Soviet-style type internment or something like that.
Either way, I'll take martyrdom. I just get to see Jesus faster.

That's a very twisted view of your purpose in the world....... why would you want to die?

Some men would rather die for their religion then to use it as Fuel to make the world a better place.

If ever something such as a soviet-style type of persecution happens (Most likely it won't) then you will find me fighting agasint it with my all 8)
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Postby Orcoa » Wed Oct 31, 2012 7:59 pm

Mavorpen wrote:
Menassa wrote:That's a very twisted view of your purpose in the world....... why would you want to die?

In heaven, you don't have to poop.

Shhh don't tell them that, then god will have to change it where everybody has to poop...I can't even think of what the lines are going to be like at those Heavenly public bathrooms :p
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Postby Gallowfield » Wed Oct 31, 2012 7:59 pm

Menassa wrote:
Gallowfield wrote:You know, atheists get it a lot rougher than many groups of people. A shame, most atheists I know are alright people

The Poor Persecuted Peoples.

Let me put it this way- If I were atheist, I definitely wouldn't be too vocal about it. I wouldn't want my neighbors to be afraid of me :(
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Postby Big Jim P » Wed Oct 31, 2012 8:02 pm

Gallowfield wrote:
Menassa wrote:The Poor Persecuted Peoples.

Let me put it this way- If I were atheist, I definitely wouldn't be too vocal about it. I wouldn't want my neighbors to be afraid of me :(


:rofl: Afraid of you because you are an atheist. :rofl:
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Postby Menassa » Wed Oct 31, 2012 8:02 pm

Big Jim P wrote:
Gallowfield wrote:Let me put it this way- If I were atheist, I definitely wouldn't be too vocal about it. I wouldn't want my neighbors to be afraid of me :(


:rofl: Afraid of you because you are an atheist. :rofl:

I was just thinking the same thing.
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Postby Orcoa » Wed Oct 31, 2012 8:03 pm

Big Jim P wrote:
Gallowfield wrote:Let me put it this way- If I were atheist, I definitely wouldn't be too vocal about it. I wouldn't want my neighbors to be afraid of me :(


:rofl: Afraid of you because you are an atheist. :rofl:

Its those rumors that they like to eat babies and shit fire....I would be scared too if some dude come up to me eating a baby and shitting out a jet of flame. :p
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Postby Gallowfield » Wed Oct 31, 2012 8:04 pm

Big Jim P wrote:
Gallowfield wrote:Let me put it this way- If I were atheist, I definitely wouldn't be too vocal about it. I wouldn't want my neighbors to be afraid of me :(


:rofl: Afraid of you because you are an atheist. :rofl:


I live in Southwest Virginia. The stupidity that some people have is painful. Like watching Fox News while chewing a hardback Glenn Beck book painful.
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Postby Menassa » Wed Oct 31, 2012 8:04 pm

Gallowfield wrote:
Big Jim P wrote:
:rofl: Afraid of you because you are an atheist. :rofl:


I live in Southwest Virginia. The stupidity that some people have is painful. Like watching Fox News while chewing a hardback Glenn Beck book painful.

I figure they would be more afraid of Jews than atheists.
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Postby Norstal » Wed Oct 31, 2012 8:05 pm

Orcoa wrote:
Menassa wrote:That's a very twisted view of your purpose in the world....... why would you want to die?

Some men would rather die for their religion then to use it as Fuel to make the world a better place.

If ever something such as a soviet-style type of persecution happens (Most likely it won't) then you will find me fighting agasint it with my all 8)

I would too, but Christians are not in that kind of danger in a thousand years.

Well, unless Jesus showed up. Funny that eh? The only one who will kill all Christians is Jesus himself.
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Postby Manahakatouki » Wed Oct 31, 2012 8:05 pm

Gallowfield wrote:
Menassa wrote:The Poor Persecuted Peoples.

Let me put it this way- If I were atheist, I definitely wouldn't be too vocal about it. I wouldn't want my neighbors to be afraid of me :(


At least you aren't a satanist...

I got flak just by joking about it with one of my more religious teachers...

It is Halloween though, and what better way to celebrate it but by scaring the crap out of fundie Christians with my deadpan attempt to joke on the feasting of sacrificial goats and child heart...
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Postby Arkania 5 » Wed Oct 31, 2012 8:05 pm

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Postby Gallowfield » Wed Oct 31, 2012 8:06 pm

Menassa wrote:
Gallowfield wrote:
I live in Southwest Virginia. The stupidity that some people have is painful. Like watching Fox News while chewing a hardback Glenn Beck book painful.

I figure they would be more afraid of Jews than atheists.


Oddly enough, Jews are never talked about here. Everyone is going on about how the end of the world is happening because modern people are turning away from the church in droves. I think the church has turned away from modern people, honestly.
Facts are arbitrary. Pleasure is the only truth.
I worship tea.
Here's why I prefer strength over brains- beating a computer at chess is hard, but beating a computer at kickboxing is something anyone can do.
Violence isn't the answer. It's a question and the answer is yes.

Someday, I shall meet Lian and learn the ways of Chinese martial arts, or die trying. More likely the latter, admittedly.

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Postby Orcoa » Wed Oct 31, 2012 8:06 pm

Norstal wrote:
Orcoa wrote:Some men would rather die for their religion then to use it as Fuel to make the world a better place.

If ever something such as a soviet-style type of persecution happens (Most likely it won't) then you will find me fighting agasint it with my all 8)

I would too, but Christians are not in that kind of danger in a thousand years.

Well, unless Jesus showed up. Funny that eh? The only one who will kill all Christians is Jesus himself.

Or the Anti-Christ ;)
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Postby Norstal » Wed Oct 31, 2012 8:07 pm

Menassa wrote:
Gallowfield wrote:
I live in Southwest Virginia. The stupidity that some people have is painful. Like watching Fox News while chewing a hardback Glenn Beck book painful.

I figure they would be more afraid of Jews than atheists.

Please, it was the Romans who killed Jesus. And they became Italians.
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Postby Menassa » Wed Oct 31, 2012 8:08 pm

Gallowfield wrote:
Menassa wrote:I figure they would be more afraid of Jews than atheists.


Oddly enough, Jews are never talked about here. Everyone is going on about how the end of the world is happening because modern people are turning away from the church in droves. I think the church has turned away from modern people, honestly.

Ah...... bit of a sensitive topic for them eh?
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Postby Menassa » Wed Oct 31, 2012 8:09 pm

Norstal wrote:
Menassa wrote:I figure they would be more afraid of Jews than atheists.

Please, it was the Romans who killed Jesus. And they became Italians.

Not according to Matthew 22:27 it wasn't.
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"God said: you must teach, as I taught, without a fee."
"Against your will you are formed, against your will you are born, against your will you live, against your will you die, and against your will you are destined to give a judgement and accounting before the king, king of all kings..."

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Postby Yankee Empire » Wed Oct 31, 2012 8:10 pm

It's good to see that atheists admit they support hate when it suits them, then again this was observed in the communist factions of Russia and Spain.
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Postby Gallowfield » Wed Oct 31, 2012 8:11 pm

Menassa wrote:
Gallowfield wrote:
Oddly enough, Jews are never talked about here. Everyone is going on about how the end of the world is happening because modern people are turning away from the church in droves. I think the church has turned away from modern people, honestly.

Ah...... bit of a sensitive topic for them eh?


I just feel bad for the atheists. A shame a person can't publicly say they're atheist in America and be treated like a normal person. It bothers me how other religious people are so scared of everything.
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Here's why I prefer strength over brains- beating a computer at chess is hard, but beating a computer at kickboxing is something anyone can do.
Violence isn't the answer. It's a question and the answer is yes.

Someday, I shall meet Lian and learn the ways of Chinese martial arts, or die trying. More likely the latter, admittedly.

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Postby Atollus » Wed Oct 31, 2012 8:11 pm

Manahakatouki wrote:
Gallowfield wrote:Let me put it this way- If I were atheist, I definitely wouldn't be too vocal about it. I wouldn't want my neighbors to be afraid of me :(


At least you aren't a satanist...

I got flak just by joking about it with one of my more religious teachers...

It is Halloween though, and what better way to celebrate it but by scaring the crap out of fundie Christians with my deadpan attempt to joke on the feasting of sacrificial goats and child heart...


That's hilarious. I should try that sometime. :lol2:
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Postby Mavorpen » Wed Oct 31, 2012 8:11 pm

Yankee Empire wrote:It's good to see that atheists admit they support hate when it suits them, then again this was observed in the communist factions of Russia and Spain.

Try reading through the thread. If you actually READ, you'd see that those same people also say that they don't give a shit if you ridicule them. Also, they NEVER said anything about hate.

Try again, but this time try to base your post in reality.
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Postby Celarctaia » Wed Oct 31, 2012 8:20 pm

I am an atheist, would I like to see a world with no religion? yes. Do I think we need to get there through violence? no. I understand the point of religion but I personally am not pleased by "because the bible/god/jesus said so" I am not saying people who believe in religion are in anyway lower then me or on any different level. I have many friends who are very religious, hell I went to my girlfriend's brothers conformation two weeks ago was I happy about it? not really. Did I mock and dismantle everything that was said? you bet I did but I kept them to myself because I respect people's beliefs. Every religion/idea system has their "nut jobs", I only get defensive about my atheism when people try to shove their religion on me because it is not something that should be imposed on people, it is up to them on what they want to believe (or not believe) in.

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Postby Orcoa » Wed Oct 31, 2012 8:25 pm

I kinda wish there was a "I'm a theist and I don't really give a shit" option on the poll :p
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Postby Menassa » Wed Oct 31, 2012 8:27 pm

Orcoa wrote:I kinda wish there was a "I'm a theist and I don't really give a shit" option on the poll :p

Me too :D
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Postby Orcoa » Wed Oct 31, 2012 8:29 pm

Menassa wrote:
Orcoa wrote:I kinda wish there was a "I'm a theist and I don't really give a shit" option on the poll :p

Me too :D

Here here my jewish friend!

Its like, what the fuck do I care if there are a little more atheists in the world? Those people have decided to go their own path and good luck to them.

It's not going to change what I believe in so I don't know why some people are freaking out about this coming "Wave"
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Postby Menassa » Wed Oct 31, 2012 8:31 pm

Orcoa wrote:
Menassa wrote:Me too :D

Here here my jewish friend!

Its like, what the fuck do I care if there are a little more atheists in the world? Those people have decided to go their own path and good luck to them.

It's not going to change what I believe in so I don't know why some people are freaking out about this coming "Wave"

Creeds rise and fall..... once paganism.... now, not so much.

As long as no one's being slaughtered in the synagogue I'm fine with that.
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"God said: you must teach, as I taught, without a fee."
"Against your will you are formed, against your will you are born, against your will you live, against your will you die, and against your will you are destined to give a judgement and accounting before the king, king of all kings..."

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