Time to put North Korea out of its misery?

[Divair]

What is it then?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Juche

[Long Island Nation]

What is it then?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Juche

Take a look at the article's categories...

[Of the Free Socialist Territories]

It isn't communist tyranny. It's tyranny, but not communist.

What is it then?

Juche, or to put it another way, crazy shit. Given that they've been systematically erasing all references to communism from all official documents since about 1992, and they weren't even communist before that, "communist" is not the adjective you're looking for.

Juche is essentially militarism and isolationism with a bit of Fuehrerprinzip and autarky thrown in.

[Crangy]

Really? Tokyoni hasn't come in here and started ranting about imperialist America and how great the DPRK is? Really?

I'm amazed.

No he came. Only once, but still he did come.

[Laerod]

It isn't communist tyranny. :palm: It's tyranny, but not communist.

What is it then?

Relevant to NK.. how?

I think it's time the massive western world stops standing by idly while some despot tortures millions.

Rightwingers hate it when people do that. Just look at all the Flak Obama got for helping the Libyans.

[Crangy]

What is it then?

Juche, or to put it another way, crazy shit. Given that they've been systematically erasing all references to communism from all official documents since about 1992, and they weren't even communist before that, "communist" is not the adjective you're looking for.

Juche is essentially militarism and isolationism with a bit of Fuehrerprinzip and autarky thrown in.

Agreed *nods*

[Divair]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Juche

Take a look at the article's categories...

Take a look at what communism is:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Communism

"Communism (from Latin communis - common, universal) is a revolutionary socialist movement to create a classless, moneyless, and stateless social order structured upon common ownership of the means of production"

Not North Korea by any means.

[The Joseon Dynasty]

What is it then?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Juche

Nominally.

[The God-Realm]

Leave them.

I need to liberate them and become Eternal President of the Two Koryos.

[Long Island Nation]

What is it then?



I think it's time the massive western world stops standing by idly while some despot tortures millions.

Rightwingers hate it when people do that. Just look at all the Flak Obama got for helping the Libyans.

Mainly because we can't trust the Middle East. I don't see why Koreans would have any problem with us.

[Laerod]

Rightwingers hate it when people do that. Just look at all the Flak Obama got for helping the Libyans.

Mainly because we can't trust the Middle East. I don't see why Koreans would have any problem with us.

Your hypocrisy is not surprising.

[Wolfine]

We should keep North Korea the way it is just to see what happens.

[Sailsia]

I fail to understand why North Korea is still running.

Read 1984 and all will be clear. North Korea runs because it is extremely isolated. The only thing more isolated than North Korea, is the average North Korean themselves. By eliminating trust between families and friends, it is impossible for any popular revolt to take place. The only way their govt can topple from within is if the people suddenly realized what a pit their nation is; but they believe they have it better than anyone in the world. They believe that they are free. How can you revolt when you are already living in a Utopia?

[The God-Realm]

I fail to understand why North Korea is still running.

Read 1984 and all will be clear. North Korea runs because it is extremely isolated. The only thing more isolated than North Korea, is the average North Korean themselves. By eliminating trust between families and friends, it is impossible for any popular revolt to take place. The only way their govt can topple from within is if the people suddenly realized what a pit their nation is; but they believe they have it better than anyone in the world. They believe that they are free. How can you revolt when you are already living in a Utopia?

But they are starving.

[Divair]

Read 1984 and all will be clear. North Korea runs because it is extremely isolated. The only thing more isolated than North Korea, is the average North Korean themselves. By eliminating trust between families and friends, it is impossible for any popular revolt to take place. The only way their govt can topple from within is if the people suddenly realized what a pit their nation is; but they believe they have it better than anyone in the world. They believe that they are free. How can you revolt when you are already living in a Utopia?

But they are starving.

They don't have a clue as to what is going on outside NK.

[The God-Realm]

But they are starving.

They don't have a clue as to what is going on outside NK.

So that is why I am going to go there and tell the truth!

(Not really. Not yet.)

[Arkan Tigers]

I mean,even a harsh capitalist system would be better than what they currently have up there.
Though I'm strictly against military action,I support that the western governments and particularly S.Korea should try everything they can to organise an opposition in the north.

[Divair]

They don't have a clue as to what is going on outside NK.

So that is why I am going to go there and tell the truth!

(Not really. Not yet.)

If only it were that easy.

[North California]

No.


North Korea isn't worth our time, money and lives. Let them work it out themselves. We don't need another war.

[The God-Realm]

So that is why I am going to go there and tell the truth!

(Not really. Not yet.)

If only it were that easy.

First I will overthrow the governments of Haiti, Liberia, and The Gambia.

I will train Propaganda Masters and Black Ops soldiers with the help of the II realism masters.

[Sailsia]

Read 1984 and all will be clear. North Korea runs because it is extremely isolated. The only thing more isolated than North Korea, is the average North Korean themselves. By eliminating trust between families and friends, it is impossible for any popular revolt to take place. The only way their govt can topple from within is if the people suddenly realized what a pit their nation is; but they believe they have it better than anyone in the world. They believe that they are free. How can you revolt when you are already living in a Utopia?

But they are starving.

If you've never had enough to eat, and everyone you know has never had enough to eat, you believe that pain in your stomach is normal. When you are told that the American slaves and their South Korean cohorts aren't eating at all, that one slice of bread, or potato, or cup of rice, becomes a luxury. Imagine a nation where they eat thanksgiving dinner every night, and compare it to a normal American family who says "think of the starving kids in Africa". While they might now be eating as much as the Thanksgiving Every Day people, they still believe they are blessed to not be the Africans.

[The God-Realm]

But they are starving.

If you've never had enough to eat, and everyone you know has never had enough to eat, you believe that pain in your stomach is normal. When you are told that the American slaves and their South Korean cohorts aren't eating at all, that one slice of bread, or potato, or cup of rice, becomes a luxury. Imagine a nation where they eat thanksgiving dinner every night, and compare it to a normal American family who says "think of the starving kids in Africa". While they might now be eating as much as the Thanksgiving Every Day people, they still believe they are blessed to not be the Africans.

I see.

And this.

[Long Island Nation]

Mainly because we can't trust the Middle East. I don't see why Koreans would have any problem with us.

Your hypocrisy is not surprising.

Please elaborate. Last time I checked, Koreans weren't rioting over films. Al Qaeda doesn't have strongholds in Korea.

[The Joseon Dynasty]

But they are starving.

If you've never had enough to eat, and everyone you know has never had enough to eat, you believe that pain in your stomach is normal. When you are told that the American slaves and their South Korean cohorts aren't eating at all, that one slice of bread, or potato, or cup of rice, becomes a luxury. Imagine a nation where they eat thanksgiving dinner every night, and compare it to a normal American family who says "think of the starving kids in Africa". While they might now be eating as much as the Thanksgiving Every Day people, they still believe they are blessed to not be the Africans.

Except North Korea doesn't tell its people that, and hasn't done for about a decade.

[Pragia]

Ok let's compare democratic USA and Europe with North Korea

- US and EU economy going down the drain and Americans/Europeans still worried about N.Korea. I don't need to provide any link, people know for themselves how expensive life has become in the West and how growth rates are plummeting.

- Unemployment rising in the West

- Crime much higher in USA than N.Korea

- Around 30 million people in USA depend on "food stamps", what a disgrace.

- USA and EU has more dishonorable people than N.Korea swarming with honorable and enlightened people, the average American doesn't even know the alphabet and the average European is a liberal or bi sexual person part of the materialist pop culture. While north Koreans are militaristic and honorable, they cry for their leader because they have true faith and know what loyalty means, that;ls the kind of people you need.

At the end of the day the North Koreans will win because their population is sued to hardship. Let's see what the Europeans and Americans do when they are put on rations, especially liberals and materialists or people part of technocracy, cargo cult, they will perish within the first few months because they will not be able to handle the hardships of life! Only honorable and faithful people can do which USA especially EU lacks.

North Korea is also at a disadvantage because it's the entire world vs North Korea and still they prevail.

Why should N.Korea become a liberal and dishonorable nation like USA or any other EU nation which in fact is becoming much worse and poorer than N.Korea...

In addition have any of you people been to N.Korea? Nope, so how can you be sure it's such a hell hole?

I respect N.Korea and if Kim Jong Un, the secret pan Turkist is reading this message I urge him to try harder and build more nukes so when the times comes and they try to take you down, you will force generations yet unborn to cry out in anguish. On the contrary nobody and nobody has the guts to take you down, all people can do nowadays is criticize you on the Internet or make lies about you, but the same people wouldn't dare say such thing to the faces of North Koreas, why? Because they are dishonorable.

1. Unemployment is going back up, and we're in a recession, what do you expect?
2. Hmmmm free will tends to cause difference in beliefs which can make crime. Also I wouldn't want to commit any crimes if I would be abducted from my home and work in a labor camp for the rest of my life, or be executed.
3. And everyone in NK is relying on foreign aid food, what a disgrace
4. Yes Kim family are all gods, and Korea totally has higher literacy and education rates that the west, Kim Jong Un even went to Switzerland. Loyalty due to complete indoctrination and crying because now where is their food going to come from
5. Wow got this far then realized this post was just to get a rise out of people, sorry all

As to the arguement, I feel as though there will eventually be some event where China drops them and they start begging for food from other countries and the other countries will either say no or require massive reform.