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How much gun control are you in favor of?

An entire ban of guns, guns are designed to do one thing and thats kill.
31
13%
We need more tighter gun control, but not an entire ban on every firearm people do have rights to bear arms.
74
32%
Less gun control is what we need, most of our gun laws do nothing to stop violent crime.
69
30%
We dont want any gun control at all, if the police and the military can have them then so should us civies.
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24%
 
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Postby Chernoslavia » Sun Oct 28, 2012 3:13 pm

The only gun control that im in favor of is having to do Form 4473 and wait for approval and if your record's clean then your good. I dont support a ban on a certain category of firearms because no matter what laws you write to the people that obey them, your not gonna get violent criminals to suddenly just obey the law.
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Postby Galla- » Sun Oct 28, 2012 3:16 pm

Gun laws in the USA should go back to pre-1934.

I want to be able to order an F2000 from FN in their brochure and have it delivered to my house. ):
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Postby Divair » Sun Oct 28, 2012 3:19 pm

"Common-sense" gun control.

Want the rifle and a few pistols? Sure.
The mini-gun and automatic AR's? I don't think so.

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Postby Blazedtown » Sun Oct 28, 2012 3:22 pm

Gun Control is a misnomer. It should be called victim disarmament.
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Postby Genivaria » Sun Oct 28, 2012 3:22 pm

Divair wrote:"Common-sense" gun control.

Want the rifle and a few pistols? Sure.
The mini-gun and automatic AR's? I don't think so.

Also no suppressors or AP rounds.

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Postby Divair » Sun Oct 28, 2012 3:22 pm

Genivaria wrote:
Divair wrote:"Common-sense" gun control.

Want the rifle and a few pistols? Sure.
The mini-gun and automatic AR's? I don't think so.

Also no suppressors or AP rounds.

That too.

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Postby SD_Film Artists » Sun Oct 28, 2012 3:23 pm

Tightly controlled licences should be given to farmers and other professions.
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Postby Galla- » Sun Oct 28, 2012 3:23 pm

Divair wrote:"Common-sense" gun control.

Want the rifle and a few pistols? Sure.
The mini-gun and automatic AR's? I don't think so.


There's been two crimes done with legal automatic weapons in the last three quarter century.

Maybe three.

Vast majority are done with pistols.

Yes, clearly baby seeking cop killing machines.
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Postby Dorlania » Sun Oct 28, 2012 3:24 pm

Divair wrote:"Common-sense" gun control.

Want the rifle and a few pistols? Sure.
The mini-gun and automatic AR's? I don't think so.

iirc automatic rifles can't be sold

it's all semi-auto i think
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Postby Chernoslavia » Sun Oct 28, 2012 3:24 pm

Galla- wrote:Gun laws in the USA should go back to pre-1934.

I want to be able to order an F2000 from FN in their brochure and have it delivered to my house. ):


Those were the days...But then Al Capone ruined it for the rest of us :(
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Postby Long Island Nation » Sun Oct 28, 2012 3:24 pm

Gun control is firing a precise series of shots at a target.

Aside from background checks, we don't need no stinkin' gun control. The new regulation I would want is the elimination of gun shows where you can get a gun no questions asked. Aside from that, let people do what they want.

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Postby Divair » Sun Oct 28, 2012 3:25 pm

Dorlania wrote:
Divair wrote:"Common-sense" gun control.

Want the rifle and a few pistols? Sure.
The mini-gun and automatic AR's? I don't think so.

iirc automatic rifles can't be sold

it's all semi-auto i think

Some states give a permit, no?

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Postby SD_Film Artists » Sun Oct 28, 2012 3:25 pm

I think the poll is a bit US-centric.
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Postby Chernoslavia » Sun Oct 28, 2012 3:25 pm

Dorlania wrote:
Divair wrote:"Common-sense" gun control.

Want the rifle and a few pistols? Sure.
The mini-gun and automatic AR's? I don't think so.

iirc automatic rifles can't be sold

it's all semi-auto i think


If its registered with the BATF before May 19, 1986. Then its legal to own. You must also pay a $200 tax since full-autos are NFA regulated.
What would things have been like if every security operative, when he went out at night to make an arrest, had been uncertain whether he would return alive? Or if during periods of mass arrests, as for example in Leningrad, when they arrested a quarter of the entire city, people had not simply sat in their lairs, paling with terror at every bang of the downstairs door and at every step on the staircase, but had understood they had nothing left to lose and had boldly set up in the downstairs hall an ambush of half a dozen people with axes, hammers, pokers, or whatever else was at hand? The Organs would quickly have suffered a shortage of officers and transport and, notwithstanding all of Stalin's thirst, the cursed machine would have ground to a halt!

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Postby Galla- » Sun Oct 28, 2012 3:25 pm

Dorlania wrote:
Divair wrote:"Common-sense" gun control.

Want the rifle and a few pistols? Sure.
The mini-gun and automatic AR's? I don't think so.

iirc automatic rifles can't be sold

it's all semi-auto i think


I can buy an RPG-7 and PG-7V HEAT round for a bunch of $$$.

And a Vickers HMG.
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Postby Chernoslavia » Sun Oct 28, 2012 3:27 pm

Long Island Nation wrote:Gun control is firing a precise series of shots at a target.

Aside from background checks, we don't need no stinkin' gun control. The new regulation I would want is the elimination of gun shows where you can get a gun no questions asked. Aside from that, let people do what they want.


Uh, in gun shows if you want to buy a gun, you must go through the same procedures as if you were buying them from an FFL dealer.
What would things have been like if every security operative, when he went out at night to make an arrest, had been uncertain whether he would return alive? Or if during periods of mass arrests, as for example in Leningrad, when they arrested a quarter of the entire city, people had not simply sat in their lairs, paling with terror at every bang of the downstairs door and at every step on the staircase, but had understood they had nothing left to lose and had boldly set up in the downstairs hall an ambush of half a dozen people with axes, hammers, pokers, or whatever else was at hand? The Organs would quickly have suffered a shortage of officers and transport and, notwithstanding all of Stalin's thirst, the cursed machine would have ground to a halt!

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Postby Blazedtown » Sun Oct 28, 2012 3:27 pm

Long Island Nation wrote:Gun control is firing a precise series of shots at a target.

Aside from background checks, we don't need no stinkin' gun control. The new regulation I would want is the elimination of gun shows where you can get a gun no questions asked. Aside from that, let people do what they want.


The so called gun show "loophole" is not just the 2nd Amendment, but the 1st as well. A gun show is nothing more than an assembly of private sellers and collectors. The only way to prevent it would be to ban private sales of firearms between individuals. That's a serious intrusion of privacy.
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Postby Dorlania » Sun Oct 28, 2012 3:27 pm

Galla- wrote:
Dorlania wrote:iirc automatic rifles can't be sold

it's all semi-auto i think


I can buy an RPG-7 and PG-7V HEAT round for a bunch of $$$.

And a Vickers HMG.

well shit

sounds fun
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Postby Shady Deals » Sun Oct 28, 2012 3:27 pm

These threads always turns into vitriolic pissing contests of "No! You're wrong!" Let the games begin.

As for my two cents. Instead of a knee-jerk reaction, why not investigate what happened prior to a shooting. By understanding the chain of events leading up to it, perhaps we can make better judgment calls.

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Postby Long Island Nation » Sun Oct 28, 2012 3:28 pm

Chernoslavia wrote:
Long Island Nation wrote:Gun control is firing a precise series of shots at a target.

Aside from background checks, we don't need no stinkin' gun control. The new regulation I would want is the elimination of gun shows where you can get a gun no questions asked. Aside from that, let people do what they want.


Uh, in gun shows if you want to buy a gun, you must go through the same procedures as if you were buying them from an FFL dealer.


Apparently it's possible, though.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2011/01 ... nd-checks/

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Postby Nyr Hrafn-Heim » Sun Oct 28, 2012 3:28 pm

Divair wrote:"Common-sense" gun control.

Want the rifle and a few pistols? Sure.
The mini-gun and automatic AR's? I don't think so.

I see nothing wrong with automatic, but as soon as you start stocking up on FMJ rounds and M203s then theres an issue.
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Postby Estralia » Sun Oct 28, 2012 3:29 pm

I support sensible gun control (bans on violent criminals owning guns, banning assualt rifles, ect.)
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Postby Galla- » Sun Oct 28, 2012 3:29 pm

Chernoslavia wrote:
Long Island Nation wrote:Gun control is firing a precise series of shots at a target.

Aside from background checks, we don't need no stinkin' gun control. The new regulation I would want is the elimination of gun shows where you can get a gun no questions asked. Aside from that, let people do what they want.


Uh, in gun shows if you want to buy a gun, you must go through the same procedures as if you were buying them from an FFL dealer.


Only if you buy them from a professional dealer with a booth. Avoid the dealers and go for the guy selling his Savage .308 or something. Private sellers don't have to.
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Postby Dorlania » Sun Oct 28, 2012 3:29 pm

Chernoslavia wrote:
Dorlania wrote:iirc automatic rifles can't be sold

it's all semi-auto i think


If its registered with the BATF before May 19, 1986. Then its legal to own. You must also pay a $200 tax since full-autos are NFA regulated.

i was assuming pre-ban
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Postby Chernoslavia » Sun Oct 28, 2012 3:29 pm

Divair wrote:
Dorlania wrote:iirc automatic rifles can't be sold

it's all semi-auto i think

Some states give a permit, no?


Most states dont require a permit to posses a firearm of any find, but most states do have permits that allow you to conceal carry in public where allowed to.
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