NATION

PASSWORD

Why is homosexuality wrong?

For discussion and debate about anything. (Not a roleplay related forum; out-of-character commentary only.)

Advertisement

Remove ads

Topic locked
User avatar
Divair
Khan of Spam
 
Posts: 63434
Founded: May 06, 2009
Ex-Nation

Postby Divair » Mon Oct 29, 2012 8:49 am

Scholencia wrote:
Farnhamia wrote:Ancient American societies? Like the Aztecs and Incas?

yes. In every society from the existance of humanity there have been homosexual persons according to the liberal agenda. so there have been revolts of slaves in the past who fought fir more rights. why havent the gays in past fought for their rights to?

I repeat:
Saudi Arabia.
Top
User avatar
Veceria
Postmaster of the Fleet
 
Posts: 24832
Founded: Jul 12, 2009
Ex-Nation

Postby Veceria » Mon Oct 29, 2012 8:50 am

Ifreann wrote:
Farnhamia wrote:Please explain what you think the Spartacus War was about.

Slow motion violence and/or sex.

I love that show.
[FT]|Does not use NS stats.
Zeth Rekia wrote:You making Zeno horny.

DesAnges wrote:People don't deserve respect, they earn it.

10,000,000th post.
FoxTropica wrote:And then Hurdegaryp kissed Thafoo, Meanwhile Fox-Mary-"Sue"-Tropica saved TET from destruction and everyone happily forever.

Then suddenly fights broke out because hey, it's the internet.

Hurd is Hurd is Hurd.
Discord: Fenrisúlfr#3521
(send me a TG before sending me a friend request though)
I'm Austrian, if you need german translations, feel free to send me a TG.
Top
User avatar
Dominion of Nova Scotia
Attaché
 
Posts: 72
Founded: Aug 18, 2012
Ex-Nation

Postby Dominion of Nova Scotia » Mon Oct 29, 2012 8:50 am

Scholencia wrote:
Farnhamia wrote:Ancient American societies? Like the Aztecs and Incas?

yes. In every society from the existance of humanity there have been homosexual persons according to the liberal agenda. so there have been revolts of slaves in the past who fought fir more rights. why havent the gays in past fought for their rights to?


I made a post referencing your questions.
Nova Scotia
ABC News

Head of State: His Excellency the Right Honourable Robert F. Barnes IV, Governor General of Nova Scotia
Head of Government: The Right Honourable Rachel MacDonald, Prime Minister of Nova Scotia

Ministry of Foreign Affairs: Protocol (Embassies), Public Affairs
Top
User avatar
Ifreann
Post Overlord
 
Posts: 159012
Founded: Aug 07, 2005
Scandinavian Liberal Paradise

Postby Ifreann » Mon Oct 29, 2012 8:53 am

Scholencia wrote:
Farnhamia wrote:Ancient American societies? Like the Aztecs and Incas?

yes. In every society from the existance of humanity there have been homosexual persons according to the liberal agenda. so there have been revolts of slaves in the past who fought fir more rights. why havent the gays in past fought for their rights to?

Again, how is this relevant? I mean, it may well be an interesting historical/anthropological/sociological question. Just what pushes an oppressed minority to fight back against their oppressors? In which situations will they be cowed, in which will they revolt violently, etc, etc. But what does it have to do with the topic at hand? How is it germane to why homosexuality is wrong?
Top
User avatar
Farnhamia
Game Moderator
 
Posts: 111671
Founded: Jun 20, 2006
Left-Leaning College State

Postby Farnhamia » Mon Oct 29, 2012 8:53 am

Scholencia wrote:
Farnhamia wrote:Ancient American societies? Like the Aztecs and Incas?

yes. In every society from the existance of humanity there have been homosexual persons according to the liberal agenda. so there have been revolts of slaves in the past who fought fir more rights. why havent the gays in past fought for their rights to?

Perhaps they didn't need to do so, as they weren't denied any rights based on their sexual orientation.

What's the big deal? Are homosexuals bothering you? I doubt you're old enough to be married but on the off-chance you are, does the thought of homosexual marriage somehow make your own marriage feel dirty? Or do you just parrot what some guy on the radio or some other guy in a pulpit tells you?
Make Earth Great Again: Stop Continental Drift!
And Jesus was a sailor when he walked upon the water ...
"Make yourself at home, Frank. Hit somebody." RIP Don Rickles
My country, right or wrong; if right, to be kept right; and if wrong, to be set right. ~ Carl Schurz
<Sigh> NSG...where even the atheists are Augustinians. ~ The Archregimancy
Now the foot is on the other hand ~ Kannap
RIP Dyakovo ... Ashmoria (Freedom ... or cake)
This is the eighth line. If your signature is longer, it's too long.
Top
User avatar
Ifreann
Post Overlord
 
Posts: 159012
Founded: Aug 07, 2005
Scandinavian Liberal Paradise

Postby Ifreann » Mon Oct 29, 2012 8:54 am

Veceria wrote:

I love that show.

I found it entertaining.
Top
User avatar
Mavorpen
Khan of Spam
 
Posts: 63266
Founded: Dec 20, 2011
Ex-Nation

Postby Mavorpen » Mon Oct 29, 2012 9:04 am

Scholencia wrote:
Farnhamia wrote:Ancient American societies? Like the Aztecs and Incas?

yes. In every society from the existance of humanity there have been homosexual persons according to the liberal agenda. so there have been revolts of slaves in the past who fought fir more rights. why havent the gays in past fought for their rights to?

Because in the past homosexuals realized that marriage was a completely idiotic system, and were glad to not take part in that.
"The Nixon campaign in 1968, and the Nixon White House after that, had two enemies: the antiwar left and black people. You understand what I'm saying? We knew we couldn't make it illegal to be either against the war or black, but by getting the public to associate the hippies with marijuana and blacks with heroin, and then criminalizing both heavily, we could disrupt those communities. We could arrest their leaders. raid their homes, break up their meetings, and vilify them night after night on the evening news. Did we know we were lying about the drugs? Of course we did."—former Nixon domestic policy chief John Ehrlichman
Top
User avatar
Divair
Khan of Spam
 
Posts: 63434
Founded: May 06, 2009
Ex-Nation

Postby Divair » Mon Oct 29, 2012 9:04 am

Mavorpen wrote:
Scholencia wrote:yes. In every society from the existance of humanity there have been homosexual persons according to the liberal agenda. so there have been revolts of slaves in the past who fought fir more rights. why havent the gays in past fought for their rights to?

Because in the past homosexuals realized that marriage was a completely idiotic system, and were glad to not take part in that.

And then legal benefits came along.
Top
User avatar
Mavorpen
Khan of Spam
 
Posts: 63266
Founded: Dec 20, 2011
Ex-Nation

Postby Mavorpen » Mon Oct 29, 2012 9:07 am

Divair wrote:
Mavorpen wrote:Because in the past homosexuals realized that marriage was a completely idiotic system, and were glad to not take part in that.

And then legal benefits came along.

Indeed. It's like heterosexuals WANTED homosexuals to fight for the right to marriage.
"The Nixon campaign in 1968, and the Nixon White House after that, had two enemies: the antiwar left and black people. You understand what I'm saying? We knew we couldn't make it illegal to be either against the war or black, but by getting the public to associate the hippies with marijuana and blacks with heroin, and then criminalizing both heavily, we could disrupt those communities. We could arrest their leaders. raid their homes, break up their meetings, and vilify them night after night on the evening news. Did we know we were lying about the drugs? Of course we did."—former Nixon domestic policy chief John Ehrlichman
Top
User avatar
Scholencia
Minister
 
Posts: 3017
Founded: Feb 02, 2012
Ex-Nation

Postby Scholencia » Mon Oct 29, 2012 9:07 am

Veceria wrote:
Scholencia wrote:spartakus slave revolt says the oposite.

Wat. Why do you compare slaves with homosexuals? Homosexuals aren't enslaved, aren't they? And you comment has nothing to do with what I just said. Or was that slave revolt in the last few years?

Well, slaves and gays didnt have natural right which they really wanted. So,we have in the past slaves fighting for their freedom. Why havent gays demanded legal marriages and adotion of kids in the past? Do you get it know?
Top
User avatar
Mavorpen
Khan of Spam
 
Posts: 63266
Founded: Dec 20, 2011
Ex-Nation

Postby Mavorpen » Mon Oct 29, 2012 9:08 am

Scholencia wrote:
Veceria wrote:Wat. Why do you compare slaves with homosexuals? Homosexuals aren't enslaved, aren't they? And you comment has nothing to do with what I just said. Or was that slave revolt in the last few years?

Well, slaves and gays didnt have natural right which they really wanted. So,we have in the past slaves fighting for their freedom. Why havent gays demanded legal marriages and adotion of kids in the past? Do you get it know?

Because marriages and raising kids are horrible experiences. Image
"The Nixon campaign in 1968, and the Nixon White House after that, had two enemies: the antiwar left and black people. You understand what I'm saying? We knew we couldn't make it illegal to be either against the war or black, but by getting the public to associate the hippies with marijuana and blacks with heroin, and then criminalizing both heavily, we could disrupt those communities. We could arrest their leaders. raid their homes, break up their meetings, and vilify them night after night on the evening news. Did we know we were lying about the drugs? Of course we did."—former Nixon domestic policy chief John Ehrlichman
Top
User avatar
Farnhamia
Game Moderator
 
Posts: 111671
Founded: Jun 20, 2006
Left-Leaning College State

Postby Farnhamia » Mon Oct 29, 2012 9:08 am

Scholencia wrote:
Veceria wrote:Wat. Why do you compare slaves with homosexuals? Homosexuals aren't enslaved, aren't they? And you comment has nothing to do with what I just said. Or was that slave revolt in the last few years?

Well, slaves and gays didnt have natural right which they really wanted. So,we have in the past slaves fighting for their freedom. Why havent gays demanded legal marriages and adotion of kids in the past? Do you get it know?

No, just fucking say it.
Make Earth Great Again: Stop Continental Drift!
And Jesus was a sailor when he walked upon the water ...
"Make yourself at home, Frank. Hit somebody." RIP Don Rickles
My country, right or wrong; if right, to be kept right; and if wrong, to be set right. ~ Carl Schurz
<Sigh> NSG...where even the atheists are Augustinians. ~ The Archregimancy
Now the foot is on the other hand ~ Kannap
RIP Dyakovo ... Ashmoria (Freedom ... or cake)
This is the eighth line. If your signature is longer, it's too long.
Top
User avatar
Scholencia
Minister
 
Posts: 3017
Founded: Feb 02, 2012
Ex-Nation

Postby Scholencia » Mon Oct 29, 2012 9:09 am

Mavorpen wrote:
Scholencia wrote:yes. In every society from the existance of humanity there have been homosexual persons according to the liberal agenda. so there have been revolts of slaves in the past who fought fir more rights. why havent the gays in past fought for their rights to?

Because in the past homosexuals realized that marriage was a completely idiotic system, and were glad to not take part in that.

Ok, but why do they participate now and have kids if they hadnt problems with this in the past?
Top
User avatar
Divair
Khan of Spam
 
Posts: 63434
Founded: May 06, 2009
Ex-Nation

Postby Divair » Mon Oct 29, 2012 9:09 am

Scholencia wrote:
Veceria wrote:Wat. Why do you compare slaves with homosexuals? Homosexuals aren't enslaved, aren't they? And you comment has nothing to do with what I just said. Or was that slave revolt in the last few years?

Well, slaves and gays didnt have natural right which they really wanted. So,we have in the past slaves fighting for their freedom. Why havent gays demanded legal marriages and adotion of kids in the past? Do you get it know?

I repeat for the fourth time:
Saudi Arabia.
Top
User avatar
Mavorpen
Khan of Spam
 
Posts: 63266
Founded: Dec 20, 2011
Ex-Nation

Postby Mavorpen » Mon Oct 29, 2012 9:09 am

Farnhamia wrote:
Scholencia wrote:Well, slaves and gays didnt have natural right which they really wanted. So,we have in the past slaves fighting for their freedom. Why havent gays demanded legal marriages and adotion of kids in the past? Do you get it know?

No, just fucking say it.

Basically homosexuals are "too stoopid to fight for their rights, so why give them rights?"
"The Nixon campaign in 1968, and the Nixon White House after that, had two enemies: the antiwar left and black people. You understand what I'm saying? We knew we couldn't make it illegal to be either against the war or black, but by getting the public to associate the hippies with marijuana and blacks with heroin, and then criminalizing both heavily, we could disrupt those communities. We could arrest their leaders. raid their homes, break up their meetings, and vilify them night after night on the evening news. Did we know we were lying about the drugs? Of course we did."—former Nixon domestic policy chief John Ehrlichman
Top
User avatar
Mavorpen
Khan of Spam
 
Posts: 63266
Founded: Dec 20, 2011
Ex-Nation

Postby Mavorpen » Mon Oct 29, 2012 9:10 am

Scholencia wrote:
Mavorpen wrote:Because in the past homosexuals realized that marriage was a completely idiotic system, and were glad to not take part in that.

Ok, but why do they participate now and have kids if they hadnt problems with this in the past?

Legal benefits. Marriage has ALWAYS been about economic benefits in a large part.
Last edited by Mavorpen on Mon Oct 29, 2012 9:10 am, edited 1 time in total.
"The Nixon campaign in 1968, and the Nixon White House after that, had two enemies: the antiwar left and black people. You understand what I'm saying? We knew we couldn't make it illegal to be either against the war or black, but by getting the public to associate the hippies with marijuana and blacks with heroin, and then criminalizing both heavily, we could disrupt those communities. We could arrest their leaders. raid their homes, break up their meetings, and vilify them night after night on the evening news. Did we know we were lying about the drugs? Of course we did."—former Nixon domestic policy chief John Ehrlichman
Top
User avatar
The Joseon Dynasty
Negotiator
 
Posts: 6015
Founded: Jan 16, 2012
Ex-Nation

Postby The Joseon Dynasty » Mon Oct 29, 2012 9:11 am

Scholencia wrote:
Veceria wrote:Wat. Why do you compare slaves with homosexuals? Homosexuals aren't enslaved, aren't they? And you comment has nothing to do with what I just said. Or was that slave revolt in the last few years?

Well, slaves and gays didnt have natural right which they really wanted. So,we have in the past slaves fighting for their freedom. Why havent gays demanded legal marriages and adotion of kids in the past? Do you get it know?


There are probably many reasons, not least of all because forming a cohesive group when the potential members cannot be identified, nor want to be identified (due to social stigmas), is near impossible.
Last edited by The Joseon Dynasty on Mon Oct 29, 2012 9:13 am, edited 1 time in total.
  • No, I'm not Korean. I'm British and as white as the Queen's buttocks.
  • Bio: I'm a PhD student in Statistics. Interested in all sorts of things. Currently getting into statistical signal processing for brain imaging. Currently co-authoring a paper on labour market dynamics, hopefully branching off into a test of the Markov property for labour market transition rates.
Top
User avatar
Mavorpen
Khan of Spam
 
Posts: 63266
Founded: Dec 20, 2011
Ex-Nation

Postby Mavorpen » Mon Oct 29, 2012 9:12 am

The Joseon Dynasty wrote:
Scholencia wrote:Well, slaves and gays didnt have natural right which they really wanted. So,we have in the past slaves fighting for their freedom. Why havent gays demanded legal marriages and adotion of kids in the past? Do you get it know?


There are probably many reasons, not least of all because forming a cohesive group when the potential members cannot be identified, nor want to be identified (due to social stigmas) is near impossible.

Pretty much this, especially in Rome, where you have a lot of males engaging in homosexual acts, making it hard to discern who was actually homosexual and who wasn't. Not to mention that they usually had wives anyway.
"The Nixon campaign in 1968, and the Nixon White House after that, had two enemies: the antiwar left and black people. You understand what I'm saying? We knew we couldn't make it illegal to be either against the war or black, but by getting the public to associate the hippies with marijuana and blacks with heroin, and then criminalizing both heavily, we could disrupt those communities. We could arrest their leaders. raid their homes, break up their meetings, and vilify them night after night on the evening news. Did we know we were lying about the drugs? Of course we did."—former Nixon domestic policy chief John Ehrlichman
Top
User avatar
Veceria
Postmaster of the Fleet
 
Posts: 24832
Founded: Jul 12, 2009
Ex-Nation

Postby Veceria » Mon Oct 29, 2012 9:12 am

Scholencia wrote:
Veceria wrote:Wat. Why do you compare slaves with homosexuals? Homosexuals aren't enslaved, aren't they? And you comment has nothing to do with what I just said. Or was that slave revolt in the last few years?

Well, slaves and gays didnt have natural right which they really wanted. So,we have in the past slaves fighting for their freedom. Why havent gays demanded legal marriages and adotion of kids in the past? Do you get it know?

Homosexuals had the same rights as any other citizen back then. Your argument is invalid.
[FT]|Does not use NS stats.
Zeth Rekia wrote:You making Zeno horny.

DesAnges wrote:People don't deserve respect, they earn it.

10,000,000th post.
FoxTropica wrote:And then Hurdegaryp kissed Thafoo, Meanwhile Fox-Mary-"Sue"-Tropica saved TET from destruction and everyone happily forever.

Then suddenly fights broke out because hey, it's the internet.

Hurd is Hurd is Hurd.
Discord: Fenrisúlfr#3521
(send me a TG before sending me a friend request though)
I'm Austrian, if you need german translations, feel free to send me a TG.
Top
User avatar
Scholencia
Minister
 
Posts: 3017
Founded: Feb 02, 2012
Ex-Nation

Postby Scholencia » Mon Oct 29, 2012 9:13 am

Mavorpen wrote:
Scholencia wrote:Ok, but why do they participate now and have kids if they hadnt problems with this in the past?

Legal benefits. Marriage has ALWAYS been about economic benefits in a large part.

Yes, so why didnt they want the same thing 2000 years ago?ž

For example Alexander the Great supposed to be gay, why didnt he just married some another gay king and made his empire greater but he married the persian princess instead.
Last edited by Scholencia on Mon Oct 29, 2012 9:14 am, edited 1 time in total.
Top
User avatar
Ifreann
Post Overlord
 
Posts: 159012
Founded: Aug 07, 2005
Scandinavian Liberal Paradise

Postby Ifreann » Mon Oct 29, 2012 9:13 am

Scholencia wrote:
Veceria wrote:Wat. Why do you compare slaves with homosexuals? Homosexuals aren't enslaved, aren't they? And you comment has nothing to do with what I just said. Or was that slave revolt in the last few years?

Well, slaves and gays didnt have natural right which they really wanted. So,we have in the past slaves fighting for their freedom. Why havent gays demanded legal marriages and adotion of kids in the past? Do you get it know?

No, I don't. I understand what you're asking, just not why you think it matters.

Scholencia wrote:
Mavorpen wrote:Because in the past homosexuals realized that marriage was a completely idiotic system, and were glad to not take part in that.

Ok, but why do they participate now and have kids if they hadnt problems with this in the past?

Haven't a notion. What does it matter?
Top
User avatar
Ifreann
Post Overlord
 
Posts: 159012
Founded: Aug 07, 2005
Scandinavian Liberal Paradise

Postby Ifreann » Mon Oct 29, 2012 9:14 am

Scholencia wrote:
Mavorpen wrote:Legal benefits. Marriage has ALWAYS been about economic benefits in a large part.

Yes, so why didnt they want the same thing 2000 years ago?

What makes you think they didn't?
Top
User avatar
Divair
Khan of Spam
 
Posts: 63434
Founded: May 06, 2009
Ex-Nation

Postby Divair » Mon Oct 29, 2012 9:14 am

Scholencia wrote:
Mavorpen wrote:Legal benefits. Marriage has ALWAYS been about economic benefits in a large part.

Yes, so why didnt they want the same thing 2000 years ago?

I repeat for the fifth time:
Saudi Arabia.
Top
User avatar
Wind in the Willows
Negotiator
 
Posts: 6770
Founded: Apr 02, 2012
Ex-Nation

Postby Wind in the Willows » Mon Oct 29, 2012 9:14 am

It's not. Everyone has the right to be whatever sexuality they want.
Top
User avatar
Ifreann
Post Overlord
 
Posts: 159012
Founded: Aug 07, 2005
Scandinavian Liberal Paradise

Postby Ifreann » Mon Oct 29, 2012 9:15 am

Wind in the Willows wrote:It's not. Everyone has the right to be whatever sexuality they want.

Doesn't tend to be something people do because they want to.
Top
PreviousNext
Topic locked

Advertisement

Remove ads

Return to General

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: Edush, Ifreann

Powered by phpBB® Forum Software © phpBB Group

Advertisement

Remove ads