Why is homosexuality wrong?

[Mavorpen]

No point made there. Never plagiarized a passage as my own thought.

Generally when you include quotes, you preface it with a name, for example, "as Ayn Rand said, '[Speech]'"

Alternately you could do it like this:

[Speech]

And if you forget the source (I sometimes do this), don't fight people when they ask you for it. Seriously, it takes 5 seconds to provide the source.

[Objectiveland]

No point made there. Never plagiarized a passage as my own thought.

Generally when you include quotes, you preface it with a name, for example, "as Ayn Rand said, '[Speech]'"

Alternately you could do it like this:

[Speech]

I knew a hall monitor would look it up and they did. Pointless.

[The Emerald Dawn]

Generally when you include quotes, you preface it with a name, for example, "as Ayn Rand said, '[Speech]'"

Alternately you could do it like this:

I knew a hall monitor would look it up and they did. Pointless.

Much like everything you tend to write. Can we move on with the homosexuality thing now? We've determined that Objectiveland doesn't understand how debates work.

[Objectiveland]

Generally when you include quotes, you preface it with a name, for example, "as Ayn Rand said, '[Speech]'"

Alternately you could do it like this:

And if you forget the source (I sometimes do this), don't fight people when they ask you for it. Seriously, it takes 5 seconds to provide the source.

no one asked me. was dictated to by someone who knew the source and wanted to act as hall monitor. so it was pointless.

[CVT Temp]

My views are objective.

A bold claim, but it needs more support than simple proof-by-assertion.

[Mavorpen]

I knew a hall monitor would look it up and they did. Pointless.

Much like everything you tend to write. Can we move on with the homosexuality thing now? We've determined that Objectiveland doesn't understand how debates work.

Still waiting on him to prove that nature determines what is objectively moral.

[CVT Temp]

Still waiting on him to prove that nature determines what is objectively moral.

I'm still waiting to hear how something can be immoral without causing any tangible harm. Morality which is abstracted from consequence is incoherent.

[Objectiveland]

I knew a hall monitor would look it up and they did. Pointless.

Much like everything you tend to write. Can we move on with the homosexuality thing now? We've determined that Objectiveland doesn't understand how debates work.

I understand them but find it unnecessary to follow bureaucratic nonsense just for the sake of bureaucratic hall monitors.

[The Emerald Dawn]

Much like everything you tend to write. Can we move on with the homosexuality thing now? We've determined that Objectiveland doesn't understand how debates work.

Still waiting on him to prove that nature determines what is objectively moral.

He won't, because he can't. That's like waiting for someone to come up with proof that nature intended men to have giant neon tentacle penises growing out of their ears. It is absurd, and any half-trained science student is going to be able to refute any assertion to the contrary.

[Objectiveland]

Much like everything you tend to write. Can we move on with the homosexuality thing now? We've determined that Objectiveland doesn't understand how debates work.

Still waiting on him to prove that nature determines what is objectively moral.

sex is morally important because it promotes ones life and happiness. Rational self interest.

[Mavorpen]

Still waiting on him to prove that nature determines what is objectively moral.

sex is morally important because it promotes ones life and happiness. Rational self interest.

Thank you for completely refusing to address anything in my post. I'm asking you to prove that nature determines objective morality.

[CVT Temp]

sex is morally important because it promotes ones life and happiness. Rational self interest.

And this proves homosexuality is immoral how, exactly?

[Raeyh]

Still waiting on him to prove that nature determines what is objectively moral.

sex is morally important because it promotes ones life and happiness. Rational self interest.

But sex can also lead to heartbreak and obsession. How can you say it's objectively good or bad? I would understand saying it is subjectively good or bad, though, and people often do.

[Yumyumsuppertime]

Much like everything you tend to write. Can we move on with the homosexuality thing now? We've determined that Objectiveland doesn't understand how debates work.

I understand them but find it unnecessary to follow bureaucratic nonsense just for the sake of bureaucratic hall monitors.

My concern was that for good or for ill, your failure to provide proper attribution meant that you were refusing to give credit to another for their work, whether I agreed with the point of that work or not. Your statement that you knew someone else would look it up signifies that you were perfectly happy to allow another to do the work that was your responsibility, which I believe is the outlook of a moocher off of the efforts of another.

Your reference to me as a "hall monitor" is simply a meaningless ad hominem comment, and is unworthy of any reply beyond this sentence.

[CVT Temp]

How can you say it's objectively good or bad?

Simple. It's good or bad depending on the particular consequences that it causes in particular circumstances. Sometimes it's good, and sometimes it isn't. Something can be objective without being absolute. It is also possible to make objectively correct or incorrect statements about subjective states of affairs.

[Samuraikoku]

My views are objective

[Seperates]

It isn't. Ok. That was easy.

[Raeyh]

How can you say it's objectively good or bad?

Simple. It's good or bad depending on the particular consequences that it causes in particular circumstances. Sometimes it's good, and sometimes it isn't. Something can be objective without being absolute. It is also possible to make objectively correct or incorrect statements about subjective states of affairs.

It seems like a poor plan to wait until the end results before deciding if it was a good idea or not.

[Objectiveland]

sex is morally important because it promotes ones life and happiness. Rational self interest.

And this proves homosexuality is immoral how, exactly?

Because ""The essence of femininity is hero worship" (Ayn Rand, "About a Woman President," in The Voice of Reason, ed. Leonard Peikoff [New York: Penguin, 1989], 268) meaning attraction to men as producers. Therefore a woman of self esteem wants to be ruled (sexually) by a man worthy of ruling her and a man of self esteem wants to rule (sexually) a woman worthy of being ruled. Therefore if ones nature is to be homosexual these feeling will manifest in a homosexual relationship and be moral. If one is not homosexual and acts on a homosexual fetish it would be immoral.

[Samuraikoku]

Still waiting on him to prove that nature determines what is objectively moral.

sex is morally important because it promotes ones life and happiness. Rational self interest.

Asexuality. Your argument is invalid.

[The Emerald Dawn]

And this proves homosexuality is immoral how, exactly?

Because ""The essence of femininity is hero worship" (Ayn Rand, "About a Woman President," in The Voice of Reason, ed. Leonard Peikoff [New York: Penguin, 1989], 268) meaning attraction to men as producers. Therefore a woman of self esteem wants to be ruled (sexually) by a man worthy of ruling her and a man of self esteem wants to rule (sexually) a woman worthy of being ruled. Therefore if ones nature is to be homosexual these feeling will manifest in a homosexual relationship and be moral. If one is not homosexual and acts on a homosexual fetish it would be immoral.

All women must be feminine?

[Yumyumsuppertime]

And this proves homosexuality is immoral how, exactly?

Because ""The essence of femininity is hero worship" (Ayn Rand, "About a Woman President," in The Voice of Reason, ed. Leonard Peikoff [New York: Penguin, 1989], 268) meaning attraction to men as producers. Therefore a woman of self esteem wants to be ruled (sexually) by a man worthy of ruling her and a man of self esteem wants to rule (sexually) a woman worthy of being ruled. Therefore if ones nature is to be homosexual these feeling will manifest in a homosexual relationship and be moral. If one is not homosexual and acts on a homosexual fetish it would be immoral.

And that is providing proper attribution.

[Objectiveland]

I understand them but find it unnecessary to follow bureaucratic nonsense just for the sake of bureaucratic hall monitors.

My concern was that for good or for ill, your failure to provide proper attribution meant that you were refusing to give credit to another for their work, whether I agreed with the point of that work or not. Your statement that you knew someone else would look it up signifies that you were perfectly happy to allow another to do the work that was your responsibility, which I believe is the outlook of a moocher off of the efforts of another.

Your reference to me as a "hall monitor" is simply a meaningless ad hominem comment, and is unworthy of any reply beyond this sentence.

Thank god

[Mavorpen]

My views are objective

[Samuraikoku]

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Your Honor, he said "My views". Therefore, it's his views, logically. And since they're are his views, the views of a single subject, his views are subjective.

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