NATION

PASSWORD

Why is homosexuality wrong?

For discussion and debate about anything. (Not a roleplay related forum; out-of-character commentary only.)

Advertisement

Remove ads

User avatar
Condunum
Postmaster of the Fleet
 
Posts: 26273
Founded: Apr 26, 2011
Ex-Nation

Postby Condunum » Tue Oct 30, 2012 2:03 am

Lingray wrote:
Condunum wrote:Really? You just got back from a ban.

But the cares.. they're not there? It's a ban. Did it hurt me emotionally no? It's a game.

All I'm doing is letting you know that your attitude is not a wise one, or one I'd advise. You're likely to ride your way to a DEAT doing that.

The fact that he thinks that LGBT is a disease makes him a moron.

No, it does not. It makes him someone who has an opinion contrary to yours. Believe it or not, those people are not morons.
password scrambled

User avatar
Tubbsalot
Powerbroker
 
Posts: 9196
Founded: Oct 17, 2008
Ex-Nation

Postby Tubbsalot » Tue Oct 30, 2012 2:04 am

Condunum wrote:Believe it or not, those people are not morons.

Now let's not say things we can't take back.
"Twats love flags." - Yootopia

User avatar
New Rogernomics
Powerbroker
 
Posts: 9423
Founded: Aug 22, 2006
Left-wing Utopia

Postby New Rogernomics » Tue Oct 30, 2012 2:05 am

Lingray wrote:
Exi1and wrote:
Some are still prepared to resist, thank God.

http://rt.com/politics/moscow-gay-propaganda-ban-890/


Which 'god'?

Allah?
Thor?
Odin?
Gay bashing by the Orthodox Church is a Russian tradition; much like attacking foreign students is for Russian far-right groups. Don't expect things to change for another hundred years or so. :meh:
Herald (Vice-Delegate) of Lazarus
First Citizen (PM) of Lazarus
Chocolate & Italian ice addict
"Ooh, we don't talk about Bruno, no, no, no..."
  • Former Proedroi (Minister) of Foreign Affairs of Lazarus
  • Former Lazarus Delegate (Humane Republic of Lazarus, 2015)
  • Minister of Culture & Media (Humane Republic of Lazarus)
  • Foreign Minister of The Ascendancy (RIP, and purged)
  • Senator of The Ascendancy (RIP, and purged)
  • Interior Commissioner of Lazarus (Pre-People's Republic of Lazarus)
  • At some point a member of the Grey family...then father vanished...
  • Foreign Minister of The Last Kingdom (RIP)
  • ADN:DSA Rep for Eastern Roman Empire
  • Honoratus Servant of the Holy Land (Eastern Roman Empire)
  • UN/WA Delegate of Trans Atlantice (RIP)

User avatar
Lingray
Attaché
 
Posts: 70
Founded: Oct 25, 2012
Ex-Nation

Postby Lingray » Tue Oct 30, 2012 2:05 am

Condunum wrote:
Lingray wrote:But the cares.. they're not there? It's a ban. Did it hurt me emotionally no? It's a game.

All I'm doing is letting you know that your attitude is not a wise one, or one I'd advise. You're likely to ride your way to a DEAT doing that.

The fact that he thinks that LGBT is a disease makes him a moron.

No, it does not. It makes him someone who has an opinion contrary to yours. Believe it or not, those people are not morons.


No it makes him a moron.

Stupid things that are said like that shouldn't be classed as an 'opinion'.

I'm bisexual, I don't have a disease at all. I was born with this sexuality and only recently discovered it. It wasn't a choice, it's not a mental illness or whatever you people want to call it.
Johnson 2012

User avatar
Tubbsalot
Powerbroker
 
Posts: 9196
Founded: Oct 17, 2008
Ex-Nation

Postby Tubbsalot » Tue Oct 30, 2012 2:08 am

Lingray wrote:Stupid things that are said like that shouldn't be classed as an 'opinion'.

Stupid things like 'if I think something is stupid it can't be classified as an opinion'?
"Twats love flags." - Yootopia

User avatar
Lingray
Attaché
 
Posts: 70
Founded: Oct 25, 2012
Ex-Nation

Postby Lingray » Tue Oct 30, 2012 2:10 am

Tubbsalot wrote:
Lingray wrote:Stupid things that are said like that shouldn't be classed as an 'opinion'.

Stupid things like 'if I think something is stupid it can't be classified as an opinion'?


But that wasn't a stupid thing to say.

Why can't people just TREAT LGBT as fellow human beings?

Do they have skin colour? Yes.

Have they evolved from primitive creatures? Yes.

Do they have the ability to speak and have the 5/6 senses of the human body? Yes.

Do they have the ability to think? Yes.

They're human beings.

Like it or not.

Accept them or be attacked for it.

I call shit how it is and I don't really care for people who become annoyed with the fact I speak what I see.
Johnson 2012

User avatar
Condunum
Postmaster of the Fleet
 
Posts: 26273
Founded: Apr 26, 2011
Ex-Nation

Postby Condunum » Tue Oct 30, 2012 2:11 am

Tubbsalot wrote:
Condunum wrote:Believe it or not, those people are not morons.

Now let's not say things we can't take back.

I'll admit, it hurt me a little to say that, considering who we're talking about. Regardless of the fact that I consider him to be hopelessly caught in an Ayn Rand Objectivist trap, and delusional about homosexuality, he is not necessarily a moron.

Lingray wrote:
Condunum wrote:All I'm doing is letting you know that your attitude is not a wise one, or one I'd advise. You're likely to ride your way to a DEAT doing that.


No, it does not. It makes him someone who has an opinion contrary to yours. Believe it or not, those people are not morons.


No it makes him a moron.

You just love digging holes, don't you?

Stupid things that are said like that shouldn't be classed as an 'opinion'.

Except they are opinions. That is his view; thus, that is his opinion. Pretty simple stuff.

I'm bisexual, I don't have a disease at all. I was born with this sexuality and only recently discovered it. It wasn't a choice, it's not a mental illness or whatever you people want to call it.

Likewise, I am bisexual too. However, I have the emotional restraint to maintain a (somewhat) even head on these forums.
password scrambled

User avatar
Freiheit Reich
Negotiator
 
Posts: 5510
Founded: May 27, 2012
Ex-Nation

Postby Freiheit Reich » Tue Oct 30, 2012 2:11 am

It goes against nature. If all humans were homosexual than the humanrace would die out. It is a sexual perversion just as having sex with animals is. I don't hate them but I think their actions are disgusting and immoral.

I find it easier to just avoid talking about the issue and then I can get along with homosexual people. Ignore that one thing and you can pretend they are normal. Maybe in most other things they are in fact normal.

Gay marriage is wrong because it means the government supports and recognizes homosexuality as acceptable and OK.
Your political compass
Economic Left/Right: 3.00
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -0.87

User avatar
Tubbsalot
Powerbroker
 
Posts: 9196
Founded: Oct 17, 2008
Ex-Nation

Postby Tubbsalot » Tue Oct 30, 2012 2:11 am

Lingray wrote:
Tubbsalot wrote:Stupid things like 'if I think something is stupid it can't be classified as an opinion'?

But that wasn't a stupid thing to say.

Why can't people just TREAT LGBT as fellow human beings?

Do they have skin colour? Yes.

Have they evolved from primitive creatures? Yes.

Do they have the ability to speak and have the 5/6 senses of the human body? Yes.

Do they have the ability to think? Yes.

They're human beings.

Like it or not.

Accept them or be attacked for it.

I call shit how it is and I don't really care for people who become annoyed with the fact I speak what I see.

Sorry, how is any of that relevant to the fact that you said "if I think it's stupid, it can't be an opinion"?
"Twats love flags." - Yootopia

User avatar
Condunum
Postmaster of the Fleet
 
Posts: 26273
Founded: Apr 26, 2011
Ex-Nation

Postby Condunum » Tue Oct 30, 2012 2:12 am

Lingray wrote:
Tubbsalot wrote:Stupid things like 'if I think something is stupid it can't be classified as an opinion'?


But that wasn't a stupid thing to say.

Why can't people just TREAT LGBT as fellow human beings?

Do they have skin colour? Yes.

Have they evolved from primitive creatures? Yes.

Do they have the ability to speak and have the 5/6 senses of the human body? Yes.

Do they have the ability to think? Yes.

They're human beings.

Like it or not.

Accept them or be attacked for it.

I call shit how it is and I don't really care for people who become annoyed with the fact I speak what I see.

You aren't 'calling shit how it is', actually. You just lumped us all together as anti-LGBT, twice.
password scrambled

User avatar
Lingray
Attaché
 
Posts: 70
Founded: Oct 25, 2012
Ex-Nation

Postby Lingray » Tue Oct 30, 2012 2:13 am

Tubbsalot wrote:
Lingray wrote:
But that wasn't a stupid thing to say.

Why can't people just TREAT LGBT as fellow human beings?

Do they have skin colour? Yes.

Have they evolved from primitive creatures? Yes.

Do they have the ability to speak and have the 5/6 senses of the human body? Yes.

Do they have the ability to think? Yes.

They're human beings.

Like it or not.

Accept them or be attacked for it.

I call shit how it is and I don't really care for people who become annoyed with the fact I speak what I see.

Sorry, how is any of that relevant to the fact that you said "if I think it's stupid, it can't be an opinion"?


Because I ended my reply to you and added a new subject onto it.

Problem?

Anyhow.. anyone else who quotes my replies.. I won't reply.. I have college. Good pie.
Johnson 2012

User avatar
Tubbsalot
Powerbroker
 
Posts: 9196
Founded: Oct 17, 2008
Ex-Nation

Postby Tubbsalot » Tue Oct 30, 2012 2:14 am

Freiheit Reich wrote:It goes against nature. If all humans were homosexual than the humanrace would die out. It is a sexual perversion just as having sex with animals is. I don't hate them but I think their actions are disgusting and immoral.

:roll: Homosexuality is exhibited by many animals, including humans, all of whom are entirely natural. You can't use 'it's unnatural' as an argument because it's almost self-evidently natural.

Of course that'd be a shit argument anyway - "burn down your disgusting unnatural houses!!!" - but we don't even get as far as considering whether it's compelling, because it's invalid in the first place.

Freiheit Reich wrote:Gay marriage is wrong because it means the government supports and recognizes homosexuality as acceptable and OK.

Which it is.
"Twats love flags." - Yootopia

User avatar
Lingray
Attaché
 
Posts: 70
Founded: Oct 25, 2012
Ex-Nation

Postby Lingray » Tue Oct 30, 2012 2:14 am

Condunum wrote:
Lingray wrote:
But that wasn't a stupid thing to say.

Why can't people just TREAT LGBT as fellow human beings?

Do they have skin colour? Yes.

Have they evolved from primitive creatures? Yes.

Do they have the ability to speak and have the 5/6 senses of the human body? Yes.

Do they have the ability to think? Yes.

They're human beings.

Like it or not.

Accept them or be attacked for it.

I call shit how it is and I don't really care for people who become annoyed with the fact I speak what I see.

You aren't 'calling shit how it is', actually. You just lumped us all together as anti-LGBT, twice.


No I didn't.

It wasn't aimed at anyone specifically.
Johnson 2012

User avatar
Lingray
Attaché
 
Posts: 70
Founded: Oct 25, 2012
Ex-Nation

Postby Lingray » Tue Oct 30, 2012 2:14 am

Tubbsalot wrote:
Freiheit Reich wrote:Gay marriage is wrong because it means the government supports and recognizes homosexuality as acceptable and OK.

Which it is.
Johnson 2012

User avatar
Condunum
Postmaster of the Fleet
 
Posts: 26273
Founded: Apr 26, 2011
Ex-Nation

Postby Condunum » Tue Oct 30, 2012 2:15 am

Lingray wrote:
Tubbsalot wrote:Sorry, how is any of that relevant to the fact that you said "if I think it's stupid, it can't be an opinion"?


Because I ended my reply to you and added a new subject onto it.

Problem?

Anyhow.. anyone else who quotes my replies.. I won't reply.. I have college. Good pie.


Somehow, I highly doubt a college student would not have the restraint necessary to operate on this forum. Then again, we've seen worse.
password scrambled

User avatar
Tubbsalot
Powerbroker
 
Posts: 9196
Founded: Oct 17, 2008
Ex-Nation

Postby Tubbsalot » Tue Oct 30, 2012 2:15 am

Lingray wrote:Anyhow.. anyone else who quotes my replies.. I won't reply.. I have college. Good pie.

With that sort of inquisitive and equivocal behaviour, I'm sure you'll last whole months at college before it becomes physically impossible for you to achieve the level of development required to actually pass your courses.
"Twats love flags." - Yootopia

User avatar
Lingray
Attaché
 
Posts: 70
Founded: Oct 25, 2012
Ex-Nation

Postby Lingray » Tue Oct 30, 2012 2:16 am

Condunum wrote:
Lingray wrote:
Because I ended my reply to you and added a new subject onto it.

Problem?

Anyhow.. anyone else who quotes my replies.. I won't reply.. I have college. Good pie.


Somehow, I highly doubt a college student would not have the restraint necessary to operate on this forum. Then again, we've seen worse.


You cannot base someone's personality on their age or status.

But you judge it on by what you see. I have the restraint necessary, but I'm not going to use it on THIS particular thread.
Johnson 2012

User avatar
Lingray
Attaché
 
Posts: 70
Founded: Oct 25, 2012
Ex-Nation

Postby Lingray » Tue Oct 30, 2012 2:17 am

Tubbsalot wrote:
Lingray wrote:Anyhow.. anyone else who quotes my replies.. I won't reply.. I have college. Good pie.

With that sort of inquisitive and equivocal behaviour, I'm sure you'll last whole months at college before it becomes physically impossible for you to achieve the level of development required to actually pass your courses.


My personality in real life differs from the one I use on the internet.

I care more about my education in REAL LIFE than the one I get on the internet, I've been at my college for over a year.

So how about, shut the fuck up? What goes on in real life stays away from these forums, I'm doing quite well at college anyhow thank you for your concern oh great 'intelligent' person.
Last edited by Lingray on Tue Oct 30, 2012 2:18 am, edited 1 time in total.
Johnson 2012

User avatar
Condunum
Postmaster of the Fleet
 
Posts: 26273
Founded: Apr 26, 2011
Ex-Nation

Postby Condunum » Tue Oct 30, 2012 2:18 am

Lingray wrote:
Condunum wrote:
Somehow, I highly doubt a college student would not have the restraint necessary to operate on this forum. Then again, we've seen worse.


You cannot base someone's personality on their age or status.

But you judge it on by what you see. I have the restraint necessary, but I'm not going to use it on THIS particular thread.

Can someone explain to me why I supported that damn rule that was just enacted?
password scrambled

User avatar
New Rogernomics
Powerbroker
 
Posts: 9423
Founded: Aug 22, 2006
Left-wing Utopia

Postby New Rogernomics » Tue Oct 30, 2012 2:18 am

Condunum wrote:
Lingray wrote:
Because I ended my reply to you and added a new subject onto it.

Problem?

Anyhow.. anyone else who quotes my replies.. I won't reply.. I have college. Good pie.


Somehow, I highly doubt a college student would not have the restraint necessary to operate on this forum. Then again, we've seen worse.
College degrees usually don't impact bigotry and ignorance, Ann Coulter being the best example. :meh:
Herald (Vice-Delegate) of Lazarus
First Citizen (PM) of Lazarus
Chocolate & Italian ice addict
"Ooh, we don't talk about Bruno, no, no, no..."
  • Former Proedroi (Minister) of Foreign Affairs of Lazarus
  • Former Lazarus Delegate (Humane Republic of Lazarus, 2015)
  • Minister of Culture & Media (Humane Republic of Lazarus)
  • Foreign Minister of The Ascendancy (RIP, and purged)
  • Senator of The Ascendancy (RIP, and purged)
  • Interior Commissioner of Lazarus (Pre-People's Republic of Lazarus)
  • At some point a member of the Grey family...then father vanished...
  • Foreign Minister of The Last Kingdom (RIP)
  • ADN:DSA Rep for Eastern Roman Empire
  • Honoratus Servant of the Holy Land (Eastern Roman Empire)
  • UN/WA Delegate of Trans Atlantice (RIP)

User avatar
Condunum
Postmaster of the Fleet
 
Posts: 26273
Founded: Apr 26, 2011
Ex-Nation

Postby Condunum » Tue Oct 30, 2012 2:21 am

New Rogernomics wrote:
Condunum wrote:
Somehow, I highly doubt a college student would not have the restraint necessary to operate on this forum. Then again, we've seen worse.
College degrees usually don't impact bigotry and ignorance, Ann Coulter being the best example. :meh:

True... In this case, it's more of immaturity.
password scrambled

User avatar
San Leggera
Postmaster-General
 
Posts: 13414
Founded: Dec 15, 2011
Ex-Nation

Postby San Leggera » Tue Oct 30, 2012 2:24 am

Freiheit Reich wrote:If all humans were homosexual than the humanrace would die out.
By that logic, being infertile is wrong, too; plus you're forgetting that fertile homosexuals can reproduce - they're just not attracted to the opposite sex.
It is a sexual perversion just as having sex with animals is.
Humans can consent to sex with other humans. Animals can't, conventionally.
Ignore that one thing and you can pretend they are normal. Maybe in most other things they are in fact normal.
Except that they are normal. Entirely, entirely normal. Not being heterosexual is only abnormal in that it is less common than heterosexuality is. It is not in any way an inferiority.
Gay marriage is wrong because it means the government supports and recognizes homosexuality as acceptable and OK.
People can't choose whether they want to be straight, gay, bi, or whatever. Discriminating against homosexuals simply because of their sexuality is as wrong as discriminating against blacks because of their skin colour.
#JusticeForGat
Flag | CoA | Map (bigger!)
I Just Want to Sell Out My Funeral

User avatar
EnragedMaldivians
Powerbroker
 
Posts: 8450
Founded: Feb 01, 2010
Corrupt Dictatorship

Postby EnragedMaldivians » Tue Oct 30, 2012 2:28 am

Freiheit Reich wrote:It goes against nature. If all humans were homosexual than the humanrace would die out.


Becoming a pilot is a bad thing because if everone on earth were a pilot there would be no neuro-surgeons. Also, planes are unnatural. Disgusting, immoral contraptions.
Taking a break.

User avatar
NERVUN
Retired Moderator
 
Posts: 29451
Founded: Mar 24, 2005
Ex-Nation

Postby NERVUN » Tue Oct 30, 2012 2:56 am

Lingray wrote:
Objectiveland wrote:Agreed science should provide the cure.

You've just won 'Moron of the Week'.

You just won *** a three day ban ***. Keep it up and you'll win an all expense paid trip back to the nation creation page.
To those who feel, life is a tragedy. To those who think, it's a comedy.
"Men, today you'll be issued small trees. Do what you can for the emperor's glory." -Daistallia 2104 on bonsai charges in WWII
Science may provide the means while religion provides the motivation but humanity and humanity alone provides the vehicle -DaWoad

One-Stop Rules Shop, read it, love it, live by it. Getting Help Mod email: nervun@nationstates.net NSG Glossary
Add 10,145 to post count from Jolt: I have it from an unimpeachable source, that Dark Side cookies look like the Death Star. The other ones look like butterflies, or bunnies, or something.-Grave_n_Idle

Proud Member of FMGADHPAC. Join today!

User avatar
EnragedMaldivians
Powerbroker
 
Posts: 8450
Founded: Feb 01, 2010
Corrupt Dictatorship

Postby EnragedMaldivians » Tue Oct 30, 2012 2:59 am

NERVUN wrote:
Lingray wrote:You've just won 'Moron of the Week'.

You just won *** a three day ban ***. Keep it up and you'll win an all expense paid trip back to the nation creation page.


Ummm, please explain to me how posting that homosexuality is something that needs to be cured...is not flamebaiting?
Last edited by EnragedMaldivians on Tue Oct 30, 2012 3:00 am, edited 1 time in total.
Taking a break.

PreviousNext

Advertisement

Remove ads

Return to General

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: Custadia, Page, Thermodolia

Advertisement

Remove ads