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Postby Alaje » Mon Oct 29, 2012 12:10 pm

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Postby Condunum » Mon Oct 29, 2012 12:10 pm

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Postby New Rogernomics » Mon Oct 29, 2012 12:11 pm

Rising Dragons wrote:The biggest issue i have with homosexuality, is that they don't contribute their genes to future generations. They also are causing to many issues on a wide scale.
False: http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Surrogacy
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Postby Condunum » Mon Oct 29, 2012 12:11 pm

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Rising Dragons wrote:The biggest issue i have with homosexuality, is that they don't contribute their genes to future generations. They also are causing to many issues on a wide scale.
False: http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Surrogacy

I'm honestly waiting for someone to come along and say that's a waste of our resources or some shit like that.
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Postby The Emerald Dawn » Mon Oct 29, 2012 12:12 pm

New Rogernomics wrote:
Rising Dragons wrote:The biggest issue i have with homosexuality, is that they don't contribute their genes to future generations. They also are causing to many issues on a wide scale.
False: http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Surrogacy

Not to mention the fact that:
    1. Humanity could use a good pruning.
    2. We're talking about at most 15% of the population. A population of over 7 billion.
    3. Lesbians like being moms, and like giving birth. Well, maybe not "like" giving birth, but they enjoy the process of granting life.
    4. Puppies.

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Postby The Laughing Goats » Mon Oct 29, 2012 12:16 pm

Samuraikoku wrote:
The Laughing Goats wrote:Because it's gross. Duh.


You're free not to watch, you know.


Doesn't change the fact that it's still disgusting.

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Postby Neutraligon » Mon Oct 29, 2012 12:17 pm

The Laughing Goats wrote:
Samuraikoku wrote:
You're free not to watch, you know.


Doesn't change the fact that it's still disgusting.


Then don't watch. If you don't see it how is it disgusting?
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Postby Mavorpen » Mon Oct 29, 2012 12:17 pm

The Laughing Goats wrote:
Samuraikoku wrote:
You're free not to watch, you know.


Doesn't change the fact that it's still disgusting.


Riiight.
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Postby The Emerald Dawn » Mon Oct 29, 2012 12:19 pm

Neutraligon wrote:
The Laughing Goats wrote:
Doesn't change the fact that it's still disgusting.


Then don't watch. If you don't see it how is it disgusting?

To be fair, I don't watch Roseanne Barr and her mate have sex, but it is still objectively disgusting. Much like watching someone vomit up a half-eaten Gnu, I don't have to see it to call it.

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Postby The Laughing Goats » Mon Oct 29, 2012 12:19 pm

Neutraligon wrote:
The Laughing Goats wrote:
Doesn't change the fact that it's still disgusting.


Then don't watch. If you don't see it how is it disgusting?


Hurr durr, yeah I liek to watch gays have secks.

It's a personal opinion rooted in basic biology. No fluff argument on how I'm a caveman or some un-advanced form of human being. Thanks.

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Postby Mavorpen » Mon Oct 29, 2012 12:20 pm

The Laughing Goats wrote:
Neutraligon wrote:
Then don't watch. If you don't see it how is it disgusting?


Hurr durr, yeah I liek to watch gays have secks.

It's a personal opinion rooted in basic biology. No fluff argument on how I'm a caveman or some un-advanced form of human being. Thanks.


Try "no biology."
"The Nixon campaign in 1968, and the Nixon White House after that, had two enemies: the antiwar left and black people. You understand what I'm saying? We knew we couldn't make it illegal to be either against the war or black, but by getting the public to associate the hippies with marijuana and blacks with heroin, and then criminalizing both heavily, we could disrupt those communities. We could arrest their leaders. raid their homes, break up their meetings, and vilify them night after night on the evening news. Did we know we were lying about the drugs? Of course we did."—former Nixon domestic policy chief John Ehrlichman

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Postby Neutraligon » Mon Oct 29, 2012 12:20 pm

The Laughing Goats wrote:
Neutraligon wrote:
Then don't watch. If you don't see it how is it disgusting?


Hurr durr, yeah I liek to watch gays have secks.

It's a personal opinion rooted in basic biology. No fluff argument on how I'm a caveman or some un-advanced form of human being. Thanks.


How is it rooted in basic biology? :blink:
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Postby The Emerald Dawn » Mon Oct 29, 2012 12:21 pm

Mavorpen wrote:
The Laughing Goats wrote:
Hurr durr, yeah I liek to watch gays have secks.

It's a personal opinion rooted in basic biology. No fluff argument on how I'm a caveman or some un-advanced form of human being. Thanks.


Try "no biology."

Yeah, no science I'm aware of is going to have a spokesman stand there in a lab coat with a beaker in hand and say, "Them fags is gross."

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Postby Condunum » Mon Oct 29, 2012 12:21 pm

The Laughing Goats wrote:
Neutraligon wrote:
Then don't watch. If you don't see it how is it disgusting?


Hurr durr, yeah I liek to watch gays have secks.

It's a personal opinion rooted in basic biology. No fluff argument on how I'm a caveman or some un-advanced form of human being. Thanks.

Yeah, no, it's not rooted in biology.
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Postby Mavorpen » Mon Oct 29, 2012 12:21 pm

Neutraligon wrote:
The Laughing Goats wrote:
Hurr durr, yeah I liek to watch gays have secks.

It's a personal opinion rooted in basic biology. No fluff argument on how I'm a caveman or some un-advanced form of human being. Thanks.


How is it rooted in basic biology? :blink:


In retrospect, he's correct in a way to say that his personal view on it is rooted in biology in the sense that a heterosexual wouldn't find a homosexual act appealing. But, he claimed it was a fact right before then, so yeah, he's wrong/contradicting himself.
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"The Nixon campaign in 1968, and the Nixon White House after that, had two enemies: the antiwar left and black people. You understand what I'm saying? We knew we couldn't make it illegal to be either against the war or black, but by getting the public to associate the hippies with marijuana and blacks with heroin, and then criminalizing both heavily, we could disrupt those communities. We could arrest their leaders. raid their homes, break up their meetings, and vilify them night after night on the evening news. Did we know we were lying about the drugs? Of course we did."—former Nixon domestic policy chief John Ehrlichman

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Postby Samuraikoku » Mon Oct 29, 2012 12:22 pm

The Laughing Goats wrote:
Samuraikoku wrote:
You're free not to watch, you know.


Doesn't change the fact that it's still disgusting.


You're entitled to your own opinion, your own car, your own house and your own plane, but you're not entitled to your own facts.

Homosexuality being disgusting isn't a fact. It's just your opinion to which you're entitled to. And which, unfortunately, makes you not a very desirable person to have around.

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Postby The Laughing Goats » Mon Oct 29, 2012 12:22 pm

Sorry, it seems some of you are beyond help. I don't want to argue this further as I don't want to come off as some kind of God-loving, government-hating Neocon as that's the popular antagonism for anyone who opposes "progressive" measures, but I digress.

It's just gross.

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Postby Raeyh » Mon Oct 29, 2012 12:23 pm

Samuraikoku wrote:
The Laughing Goats wrote:
Doesn't change the fact that it's still disgusting.


You're entitled to your own opinion, your own car, your own house and your own plane, but you're not entitled to your own facts.

Homosexuality being disgusting isn't a fact. It's just your opinion to which you're entitled to. And which, unfortunately, makes you not a very desirable person to have around.


It's a subjective opinion. Calling something disgusting simply means that it evokes disgust in the speaker. So, it is factual that he finds it disgusting.
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Postby Mavorpen » Mon Oct 29, 2012 12:23 pm

The Laughing Goats wrote:Sorry, it seems some of you are beyond help. I don't want to argue this further as I don't want to come off as some kind of God-loving, government-hating Neocon as that's the popular antagonism for anyone who opposes "progressive" measures, but I digress.

It's just gross.

Translation: "HOW DARE U USE LOGIC!"
"The Nixon campaign in 1968, and the Nixon White House after that, had two enemies: the antiwar left and black people. You understand what I'm saying? We knew we couldn't make it illegal to be either against the war or black, but by getting the public to associate the hippies with marijuana and blacks with heroin, and then criminalizing both heavily, we could disrupt those communities. We could arrest their leaders. raid their homes, break up their meetings, and vilify them night after night on the evening news. Did we know we were lying about the drugs? Of course we did."—former Nixon domestic policy chief John Ehrlichman

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Postby Mavorpen » Mon Oct 29, 2012 12:24 pm

Raeyh wrote:
Samuraikoku wrote:
You're entitled to your own opinion, your own car, your own house and your own plane, but you're not entitled to your own facts.

Homosexuality being disgusting isn't a fact. It's just your opinion to which you're entitled to. And which, unfortunately, makes you not a very desirable person to have around.


It's a subjective opinion. Calling something disgusting simply means that it evokes disgust in the speaker.


Check the post he's quoting. He said it's a FACT.
"The Nixon campaign in 1968, and the Nixon White House after that, had two enemies: the antiwar left and black people. You understand what I'm saying? We knew we couldn't make it illegal to be either against the war or black, but by getting the public to associate the hippies with marijuana and blacks with heroin, and then criminalizing both heavily, we could disrupt those communities. We could arrest their leaders. raid their homes, break up their meetings, and vilify them night after night on the evening news. Did we know we were lying about the drugs? Of course we did."—former Nixon domestic policy chief John Ehrlichman

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Postby The Emerald Dawn » Mon Oct 29, 2012 12:24 pm

The Laughing Goats wrote:Sorry, it seems some of you are beyond help. I don't want to argue this further as I don't want to come off as some kind of God-loving, government-hating Neocon as that's the popular antagonism for anyone who opposes "progressive" measures, but I digress.

It's just gross.

See, the bolded is true. You hold that it is gross.

We disagree with your assertion that the "gross" is rooted in basic biology. The only person saying you're a Luddite is you.

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Postby Raeyh » Mon Oct 29, 2012 12:25 pm

Mavorpen wrote:
Raeyh wrote:
It's a subjective opinion. Calling something disgusting simply means that it evokes disgust in the speaker.


Check the post he's quoting. He said it's a FACT.


It's a figure of speech.

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Postby Samuraikoku » Mon Oct 29, 2012 12:25 pm

The Laughing Goats wrote:Sorry, it seems some of you are beyond help. I don't want to argue this further as I don't want to come off as some kind of God-loving, government-hating Neocon as that's the popular antagonism for anyone who opposes "progressive" measures, but I digress.

It's just gross.


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Postby Neutraligon » Mon Oct 29, 2012 12:25 pm

Raeyh wrote:
Mavorpen wrote:
Check the post he's quoting. He said it's a FACT.


It's a figure of speech.


Not in this case.
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Postby Mavorpen » Mon Oct 29, 2012 12:26 pm

Raeyh wrote:
Mavorpen wrote:
Check the post he's quoting. He said it's a FACT.


It's a figure of speech.

He couldn't say, "doesn't change the fact that I believe it's gross"?
"The Nixon campaign in 1968, and the Nixon White House after that, had two enemies: the antiwar left and black people. You understand what I'm saying? We knew we couldn't make it illegal to be either against the war or black, but by getting the public to associate the hippies with marijuana and blacks with heroin, and then criminalizing both heavily, we could disrupt those communities. We could arrest their leaders. raid their homes, break up their meetings, and vilify them night after night on the evening news. Did we know we were lying about the drugs? Of course we did."—former Nixon domestic policy chief John Ehrlichman

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