Gender titles to be scrapped in Brighton.

[Desperate Measures]

Will it hurt you if somebody finds a way to function in society while also being a flamingo?

*eats banana*

You're expecting an actual argument outside of, "THAT'S STOOPID!" from him?

Not really. But maybe. Why not?

[Mavorpen]

You're expecting an actual argument outside of, "THAT'S STOOPID!" from him?

Not really. But maybe. Why not?

Liberals want everyone to be seen as "normal" even if they're actually ill or perverted.

*cough*

[Alaje]

Will it hurt you if somebody finds a way to function in society while also being a flamingo?

*eats banana*

You're expecting an actual argument outside of, "THAT'S STOOPID!" from him?

You can't function in society if you can't even do something as simple as realizing your not a fucking flamingo or in the "wrong body".

[Desperate Measures]

Not really. But maybe. Why not?

Liberals want everyone to be seen as "normal" even if they're actually ill or perverted.

*cough*

Hmmm. Well, then I guess this guy isn't very normal.

[Desperate Measures]

You're expecting an actual argument outside of, "THAT'S STOOPID!" from him?

You can't function in society if you can't even do something as simple as realizing your not a fucking flamingo or in the "wrong body".

Why not?

Lana Wachowski just did a pretty big movie with her brother. Seems like she's functioning just fine.

[Mavorpen]

You're expecting an actual argument outside of, "THAT'S STOOPID!" from him?

You can't function in society if you can't even do something as simple as realizing your not a fucking flamingo or in the "wrong body".

Source?

[Norsklow]

I. I sure don't. He who has more than 1 priority has no priority at all. I'd advice against breaking that basic bit of tactics - but feel free to ignore.

This is silly. The only reason to have exactly one priority is if that one goal is so hard to obtain that it requires absolute dedication.

II. Greatest Good for the Greatest Number. I certainly wont support much that goes against that. You can pursue another course, but I think you should not expect too much empathy from the outside. Which leads to marginalisation - which leads God knows where.

It's like reading Zamoyksi in 'Holy Madness' in his chapter on Poland in the 19th century. Suddenly you understand exactly why the Poles did not lift a finger for the Jews a century later. There was absolutely no way such a policy could have backfired, was there?

A general sense of compassion, fairness, and acceptance tends to lead to the greatest good for the greatest number, because we all tend to rise and fall together, being an intrinsically social species.

I. Effectiveness is the result of Absolute Dedication.

II. So far so good - but it is undone if societies start defining themselves into subgroups rather than coming to a 'One Team, One Fight' mentality
It's why I am hostile to towards the English Class-system, because having it seriously undermines any sense of solidarity. I put up with it ( like a good little boy ) - but I certainly have no sympathy towards it.
For societies to move towards a greater degree of Compassion and Acceptance than they have today, I consider a vision of 'wholeness' necessary. This cannot be achieved by the Laundry List approach so prevalent in 'progressive' thought today.

[Souseiseki]

What's the problem?

If you don't see a problem with people thinking they're flamingos, you have zero sense.

so as you've said before

we have scientific evidence showing that the brains of transmen are closer to the brains of biological men than the brains of biological women. we also have biological women being born without vaginas and babies being born with both sets of/no genitals or in many case deformed genitals. it is entirely conceivable that a persons sex would be fucked up at birth.

that said, no such evidence exists for species and there are no cases and no way for a human to give birth to a person with a dolphins brain or a baby with the brain of a human and the body of a flamigo.

unless you have this evidence, please, just shut it

[Saiwania]

What is there to be proud of in being part of a majority? It's not an achivement, it's an accident of genetics and history.

So is being born as a minority, yet you seem to believe that they deserve special treatment just for being x race. You want minorities to have the privilege instead of the majority and play a never ending game of which group should gain and which should lose.

[Zaras]

My view is only stupid in your opinion.

That much is obvious.

I know that I'm bigoted but I don't give a fuck if I offend somebody.

That's not a quality.

Who the fuck writes 'Marginalised People TM'?

Somebody who understands what sarcasm is.

Then there's 'Horizontal Hostility', what the fuck is that?

Something you're too lazy to figure out.

You don't think normal people can talk about whats best for transgendered people,
Yet you think we need to change the way we address each other to conform with their feelings.

So in other words you think you know whats best for them, but when someone else has a different idea then they can't talk and it's none of their business.

How do you NOT see the complete lack of logic in your thinking?

Because you're the one misinterpreting my posts. I never said we should change the way we address each other, and if you'd read the fucking thread you'd know that THIS IS ABOUT GOVERNMENT FORMS and Brighton DOESN'T REGULATE THE ENTIRE ENGLISH FUCKING LANGUAGE. The title is just to attract attention.

I don't say I think I know what's best for them. I go along with what they say is best for them. They know more about that than me.

Are you old enough to post here in the first place? Seriously, are you this fucking incapable of grasping basic nuances of reality?

OH AD HOMINEM, THE EPITHETS WEREN'T ENOUGH!!!! SPECIAL WEAPON!!!

Really dude? To think I actually found you above that.

You're the one who consistently refuses to grasp a repeatedly made point in the thread, not me.

Also, stop misusing ad hominem: http://plover.net/~bonds/adhominem.html

No as repetitive as posting random links because of laziness to make an actual argument.

You're calling me lazy when you're too lazy to actually read them? That's rich.

If you'd read them, you know that they are arguments.

I don't even know what your trying to prove by posting them.

That all you've done so far is spout clichéd privileged derailing arguments that contribute nothing to the conversation.

[Dinahia]

You can't function in society if you can't even do something as simple as realizing your not a fucking flamingo or in the "wrong body".

Source?

Well it seems likely that there's something not right with a person if they're confused as to what species they are.

[Alaje]

You can't function in society if you can't even do something as simple as realizing your not a fucking flamingo or in the "wrong body".

Source?

You've gotta be kidding me, you people are hopeless. Does commonsense ring a bell with you perhaps?

[Mavorpen]

Source?

You've gotta be kidding me, you people are hopeless. Does commonsense ring a bell with you perhaps?

Translation: "WHUT!? U WANT EVIDENCE!? LUL, STOOPID LIBERULS AND UR EVIDENCE!"

[Zaras]

What is there to be proud of in being part of a majority? It's not an achivement, it's an accident of genetics and history.

So is being born as a minority, yet you seem to believe that they deserve special treatment just for being x race.

You confuse treating them like human beings after a history of oppressing them with special treatment.

You want minorities to have the privilege instead of the majority and play a never ending game of which group should gain and which should lose.

Congratulations on missing my point. I love how you constantly misread my posts.

[Seriong]

Source?

Well it seems likely that there's something not right with a person if they're confused as to what species they are.

"Well it seems" is not a source.
Also, them being well has no bearing on their level of functioning in society.

[Zaras]

Does commonsense ring a bell with you perhaps?

Citing common sense to defend your fringe opinion is usually a sign that you don't have any arguments.

[Souseiseki]

Source?

You've gotta be kidding me, you people are hopeless. Does commonsense ring a bell with you perhaps?

no. see the above examples. there are plenty of trans people that function just fine in society and have done a hell of a lot more than you have. just sayin'.

[Desperate Measures]

Source?

You've gotta be kidding me, you people are hopeless. Does commonsense ring a bell with you perhaps?

It should be easy for you to come up with a source then. I mean if it's that obvious.

[Zaras]

You've gotta be kidding me, you people are hopeless. Does commonsense ring a bell with you perhaps?

Translation: "WHUT!? U WANT EVIDENCE!? LUL, STOOPID LIBERULS AND UR EVIDENCE!"

Translation: Alaje has no evidence.

[Mavorpen]

Source?

Well it seems likely that there's something not right with a person if they're confused as to what species they are.

They're not confused.

[CVT Temp]

Does commonsense ring a bell with you perhaps?

I got rid of that thing a long time ago. It kept objecting to relativity and quantum mechanics.

[Mavorpen]

Does commonsense ring a bell with you perhaps?

I got rid of that thing a long time ago. It kept objecting to relativity and quantum mechanics.

I want to have your babies.

[Souseiseki]

I got rid of that thing a long time ago. It kept objecting to relativity and quantum mechanics.

I want to have your babies.

luckily with the magic of flamingo womb transplants...

[Britannic Realms]

Who the fuck writes 'Marginalised People TM'?

Somebody who understands what sarcasm is.

I understand that some of that was sarcasm like calling so-called 'privileged' people marginalised, but how the fuck does adding 'TM' increase its sarcasm score?

Then there's 'Horizontal Hostility', what the fuck is that?

Something you're too lazy to figure out.

Why don't you give me a brief overview.

[CVT Temp]

I want to have your babies.

But I already promised my first born to the soul of Karl Marx when I voted for Obama.