Gender titles to be scrapped in Brighton.

[Alaje]

Yes that's exactly what I'm saying. Exactly that.

Since you've called transgenderism a defect, yeah, you are saying they should be treated differently.

People that are ill are treated differently because they need help, they haven't an appropriate mental or physical state.

[Delanshar]

A sig isn't a post smartass

If you can't be arsed to read a sig, it's reasonable to doubt whether you can be arsed to read posts.

A sig generally has nothing to do with a given discussion, thus reading it is usually a pointless waste of time.

[Zaras]

If politicians get this passed, they'll have more time to deal with more pressing issues. The only reason they might be stuck on it is because of certain people.

They could ignore it.

Top solution there, ignoring it. It's so brilliant.

Instead of making an argument, you just I'm "blundering into a thread and I'm privileged"

1. When you said tax dollars, why shouldn't I assume you didn't read the OP?
2. Yeah, given that you want to ignore the issues facing transgendered persons, you are privileged.

What does my signature have to do with anything. I'm not mad that you formed an opinion, I'm mad that they are based off of nothing really other than that I don't agree with you on politics, which is rather shallow.

It's NSG. Whether somebody agrees with my politics is the main thing I have to go on.

I never said my opinions are perfect, but at least I don't them in everyone's face

Missing a verb there.

and talk about how they don't know shit about taxes and British pounds.

No, but you talk about how you don't care about transgendered people's issues because they don't affect you.

[Zaras]

If you can't be arsed to read a sig, it's reasonable to doubt whether you can be arsed to read posts.

A sig generally has nothing to do with a given discussion, thus reading it is usually a pointless waste of time.

In this case it isn't.

[Mavorpen]

Since you've called transgenderism a defect, yeah, you are saying they should be treated differently.

People that are ill are treated differently because they need help, they haven't an appropriate mental or physical state.

STILL waiting on you to back this up.

Also, you do know that "appropriate" is subjective, right?

[Des-Bal]

In this case it isn't.

He would have no way of knowing that without reading every single sig, which is a waste of time. Suggesting that since he doesn't read every persons sig he isn't reading posts is ridiculous.

[Zaras]

Since you've called transgenderism a defect, yeah, you are saying they should be treated differently.

People that are ill are treated differently because they need help, they haven't an appropriate mental or physical state.

Oh, there you go again with that crap. Stop comparing transgendered persons to people who are ill. You don't get to decide what an appropriate mental or physical state is, especially since you can't tell that using conservapedia in a debate is an automatic loss for you.

[Zaras]

In this case it isn't.

He would have no way of knowing that without reading every single sig, which is a waste of time. Suggesting that since he doesn't read every persons sig he isn't reading posts is ridiculous.

Not all sigs are so huge that they take too long to read.

[Delanshar]

The difference is that a post is expected to be immediately relevant a sig is applied to every post regardless of whether or not it's pertinent to the discussion at hand.

Steel Magnolia's sig is pertinent to the discussion at hand.

A fact which you would only learn by reading it. My point is that I don't just read everyone's sig for fun.

Anyway, if your complaining about me not reading someones sig then I think it's fair to say you've run out of legitimate rebuttals about the actual topic at hand.

[Des-Bal]

Oh, there you go again with that crap. Stop comparing transgendered persons to people who are ill. You don't get to decide what an appropriate mental or physical state is, especially since you can't tell that using conservapedia in a debate is an automatic loss for you.

You keep doing that "you did this thing therefore everything else you have to say is invalid." It's immature and it's not advancing the dialogue.

[Des-Bal]

Not all sigs are so huge that they take too long to read.

Irrelevant.

[Alaje]

People that are ill are treated differently because they need help, they haven't an appropriate mental or physical state.

Oh, there you go again with that crap. Stop comparing transgendered persons to people who are ill. You don't get to decide what an appropriate mental or physical state is, especially since you can't tell that using conservapedia in a debate is an automatic loss for you.

Yes, but I'm supposed to take your word on everything right? Liberal is correct because Liberal is correct, amirite?

[Mavorpen]

Oh, there you go again with that crap. Stop comparing transgendered persons to people who are ill. You don't get to decide what an appropriate mental or physical state is, especially since you can't tell that using conservapedia in a debate is an automatic loss for you.

You keep doing that "you did this thing therefore everything else you have to say is invalid." It's immature and it's not advancing the dialogue.

Neither is, "It's a defect, because I say it is." And yet, here you are.

[Mavorpen]

Oh, there you go again with that crap. Stop comparing transgendered persons to people who are ill. You don't get to decide what an appropriate mental or physical state is, especially since you can't tell that using conservapedia in a debate is an automatic loss for you.

Yes, but I'm supposed to take your word on everything right? Liberal is correct because Liberal is correct, amirite?

Pretty much.

[Des-Bal]

Neither is, "It's a defect, because I say it is." And yet, here you are.

Actually I said "if it meets every single requirement to be considered a defect then it's a defect."

[North California]

Yes, but I'm supposed to take your word on everything right? Liberal is correct because Liberal is correct, amirite?

Pretty much.

If being serious: You proved his point
If being sarcastic: You made me laugh

[Mavorpen]

Neither is, "It's a defect, because I say it is." And yet, here you are.

Actually I said "if it meets every single requirement to be considered a defect then it's a defect."

My apologies. Your argument is thus, "It meets every requirement because I say it does."

[Brum Brum]

Either the people who proposed this have a sense of humour or are stupid! The titles are there for a reason , they are there so it is easier to identify who in the household the letter is adressed to and who you mean. If its Mr Atto they are male if its Mrs Atto its the wife! It seems to have worked for hundreds and thousands of years so why change it for some stupid supposed political correctness that in all likelihood most people in LGBT communities don't want! We had a case in Birmingham where we had a old building called the Saracens head and it was changed to St Nicholas Place because Saracens head supposed offended the muslims.... Strangely most muslims were not bothered and accepted the name as Saracens head and thought the change was stupid!

[Delanshar]

He would have no way of knowing that without reading every single sig, which is a waste of time. Suggesting that since he doesn't read every persons sig he isn't reading posts is ridiculous.

Not all sigs are so huge that they take too long to read.

Again, you'd only know how big a sig is by looking at it. And I wouldn't be looking at them anyway since 99.9 % are useless to a given discussion. Ergo it's a waste of time..

Nice job derailing the topic btw. Hypocrisy at it's finest, Considering you always accuse me of it.

[Mavorpen]

Pretty much.

If being serious: You proved his point
If being sarcastic: You made me laugh

In those cases, I'm almost always being sarcastic.

[Alaje]

Yes, but I'm supposed to take your word on everything right? Liberal is correct because Liberal is correct, amirite?

Pretty much.

And you applaud this hypocritic circular logic? Atleast I bothered to provide a link.

I'm not suprised to be honest, people don't have commonsense these days.

[Des-Bal]

My apologies. Your argument is thus, "It meets every requirement because I say it does."

Yeah that's about it. Of course I say it does because it's observably true but that's really secondary.

[Mavorpen]

Pretty much.

And you applaud this hypocritic circular logic? Atleast I bothered to provide a link.

I'm not suprised to be honest, people don't have commonsense these days.

Do you know what sarcasm is?

[Souseiseki]

Either the people who proposed this have a sense of humour or are stupid! The titles are there for a reason , they are there so it is easier to identify who in the household the letter is adressed to and who you mean. If its Mr Atto they are male if its Mrs Atto its the wife! It seems to have worked for hundreds and thousands of years so why change it for some stupid supposed political correctness that in all likelihood most people in LGBT communities don't want! We had a case in Birmingham where we had a old building called the Saracens head and it was changed to St Nicholas Place because Saracens head supposed offended the muslims.... Strangely most muslims were not bothered and accepted the name as Saracens head and thought the change was stupid!

if only we had another name we could use to help identify them

well, mr. and mrs. did not exist for hundreds and thousands of years, but for most of the years they did trans people were marginalized/near non-existent. and now they are not. and because of that it actually kind of does not work anymore. arguments to tradition are kind of dumb. ):

[Delanshar]

Either the people who proposed this have a sense of humour or are stupid! The titles are there for a reason , they are there so it is easier to identify who in the household the letter is adressed to and who you mean. If its Mr Atto they are male if its Mrs Atto its the wife! It seems to have worked for hundreds and thousands of years so why change it for some stupid supposed political correctness that in all likelihood most people in LGBT communities don't want! We had a case in Birmingham where we had a old building called the Saracens head and it was changed to St Nicholas Place because Saracens head supposed offended the muslims.... Strangely most muslims were not bothered and accepted the name as Saracens head and thought the change was stupid!

This ^