NSG's Religious Census

[Agymnum]

I hope that people will stop believing in god(s) without empirical evidence or even a decent theoretical arguement.

So you wish to remove many people's hopes.

We hope that when we die we will leave a lasting impact on humanity.

Whether it's inventing something to make people's lives better, helping the poor gain better livelihoods, or any of those things, we hope to leave a lasting impact on humanity.

But what is humanity other than a bunch of hairless apes does on a tiny speck of dust in a random galaxy in a random universe

So what if we're a bunch of hairless apes on a tiny speck of dust in a random galaxy in a random universe?

Does a lion simply give up living because it is just a glorified cat on a tiny speck of dust in a random galaxy in a random universe?

Does a cockroach? Does a dog?

Why is it so important for you that a higher deity care that you exist? Can you not have purpose of your own accord? Must you be a slave?

[Mavorpen]

Sorry, it isn't easy playing catch up.
What does that even mean?

Too tired to explain.

[Threlizdun]

So you wish to remove many people's hopes.

No, they wish for people to be able to enjoy life without having to resort to superstition.

But what is humanity other than a bunch of hairless apes does on a tiny speck of dust in a random galaxy in a random universe

Technically yes, we are of little significance to the rest of the universe. However, we have achieved so much in our brief existence. If you cannot find any beauty in humanity without a god, then I am truly sorry for you.

[Lost heros]

So you wish to remove many people's hopes.

No one's removing anything. It's painfully obvious that he means voluntarily, in which case you'd think they'd have enough sense to realize that religious hope is false hope?

Even though it may be a false hope, that doesn't deny people of believing in it. I can only think of post-mortem ways in order for it to be proven to be a false hope, and if you are correct than And it is a false hope, then I am not going to be affected by it what so ever.

[Mavorpen]

Even though it may be a false hope, that doesn't deny people of believing in it. I can only think of post-mortem ways in order for it to be proven to be a false hope, and if you are correct than And it is a false hope, then I am not going to be affected by it what so ever.

Did you... just use a thinly veiled form of Pascal's Wager?

[The Emerald Dawn]

We hope that when we die we will leave a lasting impact on humanity.

Whether it's inventing something to make people's lives better, helping the poor gain better livelihoods, or any of those things, we hope to leave a lasting impact on humanity.

But what is humanity other than a bunch of hairless apes does on a tiny speck of dust in a random galaxy in a random universe

Quite possibly the best proof going of the sheer dogged perseverance of life.

[Threlizdun]

Your second statement pretty much answered what you don't understand in the first.

No, I admitted you find solace in your belief that a deity exists, but I did not say I understood it.

It makes it more comfortable for us, to believe we have guidance.

So desire to live in a dictatorship then, right? After all, you got plenty of guidance, and those who don't follow it are punished.

[Lost heros]

So you wish to remove many people's hopes.


But what is humanity other than a bunch of hairless apes does on a tiny speck of dust in a random galaxy in a random universe

So what if we're a bunch of hairless apes on a tiny speck of dust in a random galaxy in a random universe?

Does a lion simply give up living because it is just a glorified cat on a tiny speck of dust in a random galaxy in a random universe?

Does a cockroach? Does a dog?

Why is it so important for you that a higher deity care that you exist? Can you not have purpose of your own accord? Must you be a slave?

So you wish to remove many people's hopes.

No, they wish for people to be able to enjoy life without having to resort to superstition.

But what is humanity other than a bunch of hairless apes does on a tiny speck of dust in a random galaxy in a random universe

Technically yes, we are of little significance to the rest of the universe. However, we have achieved so much in our brief existence. If you cannot find any beauty in humanity without a god, then I am truly sorry for you.

I should have put it in that those were Marv's words not mine.

[4years]

I hope that people will stop believing in god(s) without empirical evidence or even a decent theoretical arguement.

So you wish to remove many people's hopes.

We hope that when we die we will leave a lasting impact on humanity.

Whether it's inventing something to make people's lives better, helping the poor gain better livelihoods, or any of those things, we hope to leave a lasting impact on humanity.

But what is humanity other than a bunch of hairless apes does on a tiny speck of dust in a random galaxy in a random universe

1. Yes, if people stop beleiving in god(s) maybe they will do somthing worthwhile in this world.
Helen Keller has a pretty good quote on the subject: It is wonderful how much time good people spend fighting the devil. If they would only expend the same amount of energy loving their fellow men, the devil would die in his own tracks of ennui.-Helen Keller

2. I happend to be part of the race of hairless apes and live on the tiny speck of in a random galaxy in a random universe. So I want the hairless apes to prosper and the tiny speck of dust to be a pleasant speck.

[Agymnum]

No one's removing anything. It's painfully obvious that he means voluntarily, in which case you'd think they'd have enough sense to realize that religious hope is false hope?

Even though it may be a false hope, that doesn't deny people of believing in it. I can only think of post-mortem ways in order for it to be proven to be a false hope, and if you are correct than And it is a false hope, then I am not going to be affected by it what so ever.

I dream of a day when people can actually have hope in themselves instead of latching onto ideas that are becoming increasingly obsolete via modern science and progressive viewpoints on sexual orientation, race, etc.

Until then, humanity will be forever chained. I weep for our children - that they may not see enlightenment because we in all our pomp glory are too blind to acknowledge that we are unimportant in the grand scheme of the universe. Once you acknowledge that, everything falls into place.

[Srboslavija]

Christianity
236
35%

Victory is ours, my brothers.

[Lost heros]

Your second statement pretty much answered what you don't understand in the first.

No, I admitted you find solace in your belief that a deity exists, but I did not say I understood it.

It makes it more comfortable for us, to believe we have guidance.

So desire to live in a dictatorship then, right? After all, you got plenty of guidance, and those who don't follow it are punished.

So you believe that a if a god existed he would be a dictator like being that would force us to do stuff with no free will.
Weird, I don't feel forced to do anything.

[Mavorpen]

Christianity
236
35%

Victory is ours, my brothers.

Ignoring the Agnostics, are we?

[Agymnum]

Christianity
236
35%

Victory is ours, my brothers.

You should not be proud of ignorance.

Atheism:

214
31%

[Lost heros]

Even though it may be a false hope, that doesn't deny people of believing in it. I can only think of post-mortem ways in order for it to be proven to be a false hope, and if you are correct than And it is a false hope, then I am not going to be affected by it what so ever.

Did you... just use a thinly veiled form of Pascal's Wager?

If I did, I didn't do it on purpose because I have no idea what that is.

[Threlizdun]

If I did, I didn't do it on purpose because I have no idea what that is.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pascal's_Wager

[Lost heros]

So you wish to remove many people's hopes.


But what is humanity other than a bunch of hairless apes does on a tiny speck of dust in a random galaxy in a random universe

1. Yes, if people stop beleiving in god(s) maybe they will do somthing worthwhile in this world.
Helen Keller has a pretty good quote on the subject: It is wonderful how much time good people spend fighting the devil. If they would only expend the same amount of energy loving their fellow men, the devil would die in his own tracks of ennui.-Helen Keller

2. I happend to be part of the race of hairless apes and live on the tiny speck of in a random galaxy in a random universe. So I want the hairless apes to prosper and the tiny speck of dust to be a pleasant speck.

So if I believe in God I can't be worthwhile? Sorry, I'll go throw myself off a cliff, it wasn't like I was studying to be a cardiovascular surgeon or anything important that could save other's lives.

[Mavorpen]

Did you... just use a thinly veiled form of Pascal's Wager?

If I did, I didn't do it on purpose because I have no idea what that is.

The worst theological argument yet.

[Lost heros]

Even though it may be a false hope, that doesn't deny people of believing in it. I can only think of post-mortem ways in order for it to be proven to be a false hope, and if you are correct than And it is a false hope, then I am not going to be affected by it what so ever.

I dream of a day when people can actually have hope in themselves instead of latching onto ideas that are becoming increasingly obsolete via modern science and progressive viewpoints on sexual orientation, race, etc.

Until then, humanity will be forever chained. I weep for our children - that they may not see enlightenment because we in all our pomp glory are too blind to acknowledge that we are unimportant in the grand scheme of the universe. Once you acknowledge that, everything falls into place.

Who says religion can't coexist with science? That religion can't change to include the discoveries of science?

[Srboslavija]

Victory is ours, my brothers.

You should not be proud of ignorance.

Atheism:

214
31%

Because 31% is more than 35%?

Majority pride

[4years]

No, I admitted you find solace in your belief that a deity exists, but I did not say I understood it.

So desire to live in a dictatorship then, right? After all, you got plenty of guidance, and those who don't follow it are punished.

So you believe that a if a god existed he would be a dictator like being that would force us to do stuff with no free will.
Weird, I don't feel forced to do anything.

Look, if an all-knowing all-powerful god was to create an universe the other beings in that universe would have no free will as the god that brought them into existence would have know their every act before they existed and would have choosen that particular set of actions to take place in creation by the particular circumstances that god created the universe in.

[Threlizdun]

Because 31% is more than 35%?

Majority pride

Last time I checked 35% was not a majority.

[Gaveo]

Christianity
236
35%

Victory is ours, my brothers.

[Agymnum]

So if I believe in God I can't be worthwhile? Sorry, I'll go throw myself off a cliff, it wasn't like I was studying to be a cardiovascular surgeon or anything important that could save other's lives.

No, but if you stopped wasting time in something that hasn't been proven to exist, maybe you'd have more time for studying to be a surgeon and thus better the world.

My biggest complaint with religion is not only is it not proven to be true, but people waste so much time on it. If it's for your enjoyment, then fine, but don't treat it as if it isn't.

If it's not just for your enjoyment, and you actually take it seriously as a way to help people, then stop deluding yourself and start actually helping people.

[Agymnum]

You should not be proud of ignorance.

Atheism:

214
31%

Because 31% is more than 35%?

Majority pride

I'd rather be among the intelligent minority than among the stupid masses.

Go elitism.