Is there any difference in the doctrine of the two?
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by Abatael » Mon Oct 29, 2012 3:16 pm

by Mavorpen » Mon Oct 29, 2012 3:17 pm
Abatael wrote:Believing in evolution is not unorthodox. I believe in evolution and creationism.
There's also theistic evolution.

by Abatael » Mon Oct 29, 2012 3:21 pm

by Mavorpen » Mon Oct 29, 2012 3:21 pm

by Abatael » Mon Oct 29, 2012 3:22 pm

by Mavorpen » Mon Oct 29, 2012 3:23 pm

by Abatael » Mon Oct 29, 2012 3:36 pm

by Mavorpen » Mon Oct 29, 2012 3:37 pm
Abatael wrote:Theistic Evolution says that God creates through evolution. Theistic Evolutionists vary in beliefs about how much God intervenes in the process. It accepts most or all of modern science, but it invokes God for some things outside the realm of science, such as the creation of the human soul. This position is promoted by the Pope and taught at mainline Protestant seminaries.
And "creationism" alone is vague, because there are many types of creationism beliefs.

by Threlizdun » Mon Oct 29, 2012 3:38 pm
Abatael wrote:Mavorpen wrote:Then present it, instead of claiming so. I'm also going to need you to publish said evidence in a peer reviewed paper.
Theistic Evolution says that God creates through evolution. Theistic Evolutionists vary in beliefs about how much God intervenes in the process. It accepts most or all of modern science, but it invokes God for some things outside the realm of science, such as the creation of the human soul. This position is promoted by the Pope and taught at mainline Protestant seminaries.
And "creationism" alone is vague, because there are many types of creationism beliefs.

by Sedikal » Mon Oct 29, 2012 3:39 pm

by Kintuckistan » Mon Oct 29, 2012 3:40 pm


by Abatael » Mon Oct 29, 2012 3:41 pm
Mavorpen wrote:Abatael wrote:Theistic Evolution says that God creates through evolution. Theistic Evolutionists vary in beliefs about how much God intervenes in the process. It accepts most or all of modern science, but it invokes God for some things outside the realm of science, such as the creation of the human soul. This position is promoted by the Pope and taught at mainline Protestant seminaries.
And "creationism" alone is vague, because there are many types of creationism beliefs.
So there's no evidence for theistic evolution...? I asked for evidence, not an explanation.

by Mavorpen » Mon Oct 29, 2012 3:42 pm


by Abatael » Mon Oct 29, 2012 3:43 pm

by Kanag Republika » Mon Oct 29, 2012 3:44 pm

by Ethel mermania » Mon Oct 29, 2012 4:02 pm
Mavorpen wrote:Abatael wrote:Theistic Evolution says that God creates through evolution. Theistic Evolutionists vary in beliefs about how much God intervenes in the process. It accepts most or all of modern science, but it invokes God for some things outside the realm of science, such as the creation of the human soul. This position is promoted by the Pope and taught at mainline Protestant seminaries.
And "creationism" alone is vague, because there are many types of creationism beliefs.
So there's no evidence for theistic evolution...? I asked for evidence, not an explanation.

by Mavorpen » Mon Oct 29, 2012 4:04 pm
Ethel mermania wrote:Mavorpen wrote:
So there's no evidence for theistic evolution...? I asked for evidence, not an explanation.
god exists, therefore he created evolution.
it is a self evident statement
if you dont believe in god, you believe the statement to be false. if you believe in god, it has to be true.

by Ethel mermania » Mon Oct 29, 2012 4:11 pm

by Mavorpen » Mon Oct 29, 2012 4:12 pm

by Agymnum » Mon Oct 29, 2012 4:13 pm

by Mavorpen » Mon Oct 29, 2012 4:16 pm
Agymnum wrote:Ethel mermania wrote:
then why do you keep asking?
I think he's questioning why you would believe, then?
If there's no empirical evidence for something, then believing in it is ludicrous. It would be like if someone believed that ponies could actually speak English and fly, and that they controlled the weather. No proof = No logic.
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Sorry, bronies.

by Lost heros » Mon Oct 29, 2012 4:16 pm
Agymnum wrote:Ethel mermania wrote:
then why do you keep asking?
I think he's questioning why you would believe, then?
If there's no empirical evidence for something, then believing in it is ludicrous. It would be like if someone believed that ponies could actually speak English and fly, and that they controlled the weather. No proof = No logic.
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Sorry, bronies.

by Mavorpen » Mon Oct 29, 2012 4:16 pm
Lost heros wrote:Agymnum wrote:
I think he's questioning why you would believe, then?
If there's no empirical evidence for something, then believing in it is ludicrous. It would be like if someone believed that ponies could actually speak English and fly, and that they controlled the weather. No proof = No logic.
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Sorry, bronies.
It is called faith.

by Lost heros » Mon Oct 29, 2012 4:19 pm
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