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What religion are you?

Judaism
22
2%
Christianity
319
34%
Islam
33
4%
Hinduism
7
1%
Buddhism
22
2%
Shinto
7
1%
Paganism (Wicca, Druidry, Asatru, etc.)
41
4%
Atheist
297
32%
Agnostic
112
12%
Other
76
8%
 
Total votes : 936

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South Cvandia
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Postby South Cvandia » Mon Oct 29, 2012 2:38 pm

Grand Britannia wrote:
South Cvandia wrote:
That's like saying Slavery is the best, because more people supported it. That argument is shit. And Christianity in of itself is intolerant. The teachings in the bible have people SLAUGHTERING other people who don't agree with their god. Christianity has anti-woman, anti-gay, anti-any other religion words in it as well. If we do not agree with your god, we will be destroyed kinda shit. Etc, etc.


Yes.

In the out-dated old testament.

Then tell me then, why is the old testament even f@%king included in the bible if you DONT BELIEVE IT!?!
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Frisivisia
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Postby Frisivisia » Mon Oct 29, 2012 2:38 pm

Abatael wrote:
South Cvandia wrote:
That's like saying Slavery is the best, because more people supported it. That argument is shit. And Christianity in of itself is intolerant. The teachings in the bible have people SLAUGHTERING other people who don't agree with their god. Christianity has anti-woman, anti-gay, anti-any other religion words in it as well. If we do not agree with your god, we will be destroyed kinda shit. Etc, etc.


That wasn't an argument up there, that was an assertion.

No, it's not; people are/

Maybe in the Old Testament, but the covenants of the Old Testament were replaced upon the first arrival of Jesus Christ.

So the Old Testament isn't real? Not in the Bible? At all?
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Mavorpen
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Postby Mavorpen » Mon Oct 29, 2012 2:38 pm

Sassinia wrote:
Mavorpen wrote:Because the Pope doesn't represent Christianity.

It represents Catholicism, which is responsible for most if not all of Christianity's Intolerance.

Source?
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Socialist Monarchies
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Postby Socialist Monarchies » Mon Oct 29, 2012 2:38 pm

Frisivisia wrote:
Socialist Monarchies wrote:
To give people a reason to stop being dicks.

Except they never stopped being dicks. In fact, they were more dickish.


Some were, some weren't.
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Abatael
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Postby Abatael » Mon Oct 29, 2012 2:39 pm

Sassinia wrote:
Abatael wrote:
Because people are not accepting, which are different form Christianity.

Then why was Christianity formed anyway if people were not willing to accept it's ideals?


That's a whole different thing, and I'd love to continue this in a more appropriate place, such as the telegrams.

Frisivisia wrote:
Abatael wrote:
Because people are not accepting, which are different form Christianity.

So what you're saying is that Christianity isn't terrible, people are?


Yes, generally they are; though they can be good at times.

The De Danann Nation wrote:
Abatael wrote:
Because people are not accepting, which are different form Christianity.


You never see Buddhist,Jains,Sikhs,etc running around starting crusades to reclaim the "holy land" and stoning people to death for adultery.


You don't see any Christians doing that either. Why? Because they don't do that.
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Postby Frisivisia » Mon Oct 29, 2012 2:39 pm

Socialist Monarchies wrote:
Frisivisia wrote:Except they never stopped being dicks. In fact, they were more dickish.


Some were, some weren't.

Some remained undickish, some became more dickish. Christianity gace (and gives) people a very valuable excuse to be dickish.
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Abatael
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Postby Abatael » Mon Oct 29, 2012 2:39 pm

South Cvandia wrote:
Grand Britannia wrote:
Yes.

In the out-dated old testament.

Then tell me then, why is the old testament even f@%king included in the bible if you DONT BELIEVE IT!?!


Because it is spiritually rooted in Christianity.
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The De Danann Nation
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Postby The De Danann Nation » Mon Oct 29, 2012 2:40 pm

Abatael wrote:
South Cvandia wrote:
That's like saying Slavery is the best, because more people supported it. That argument is shit. And Christianity in of itself is intolerant. The teachings in the bible have people SLAUGHTERING other people who don't agree with their god. Christianity has anti-woman, anti-gay, anti-any other religion words in it as well. If we do not agree with your god, we will be destroyed kinda shit. Etc, etc.


That wasn't an argument up there, that was an assertion.

No, it's not; people are/

Maybe in the Old Testament, but the covenants of the Old Testament were replaced upon the first arrival of Jesus Christ.


So just because God changed the covenants,his atrocious laws are just forgotten?
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Abatael
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Postby Abatael » Mon Oct 29, 2012 2:40 pm

Frisivisia wrote:
Abatael wrote:
That wasn't an argument up there, that was an assertion.

No, it's not; people are.

Maybe in the Old Testament, but the covenants of the Old Testament were replaced upon the first arrival of Jesus Christ.

So the Old Testament isn't real? Not in the Bible? At all?


What?
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Sassinia
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Postby Sassinia » Mon Oct 29, 2012 2:40 pm

Mavorpen wrote:
Sassinia wrote:It represents Catholicism, which is responsible for most if not all of Christianity's Intolerance.

Source?


The Reconquestia, Crusades, etc. were all caused by Catholic Christians, not Protestant.

Although, I must admit some Protestants can be as intolerant as Catholics.
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Frisivisia
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Postby Frisivisia » Mon Oct 29, 2012 2:40 pm

Abatael wrote:
Sassinia wrote:Then why was Christianity formed anyway if people were not willing to accept it's ideals?


That's a whole different thing, and I'd love to continue this in a more appropriate place, such as the telegrams.

Frisivisia wrote:So what you're saying is that Christianity isn't terrible, people are?


Yes, generally they are; though they can be good at times.

The De Danann Nation wrote:
You never see Buddhist,Jains,Sikhs,etc running around starting crusades to reclaim the "holy land" and stoning people to death for adultery.


You don't see any Christians doing that either. Why? Because they don't do that.

Christians are certainly horrible to gays and muslims. Let's not forget about the troubles in the Balkans, caused by Christianity and Islam clashing.
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Postby Mavorpen » Mon Oct 29, 2012 2:40 pm

The De Danann Nation wrote:
Abatael wrote:
Because people are not accepting, which are different form Christianity.


You never see Buddhist,Jains,Sikhs,etc running around starting crusades to reclaim the "holy land" and stoning people to death for adultery.

Riiight, Buddhist institutions never justified Japanese militarism.
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Socialist Monarchies
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Postby Socialist Monarchies » Mon Oct 29, 2012 2:41 pm

Frisivisia wrote:
Socialist Monarchies wrote:
Some were, some weren't.

Some remained undickish, some became more dickish. Christianity gace (and gives) people a very valuable excuse to be dickish.


So does every other ideology in the world, it's how you use it that matters.
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Abatael
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Postby Abatael » Mon Oct 29, 2012 2:41 pm

Frisivisia wrote:
Socialist Monarchies wrote:
Some were, some weren't.

Some remained undickish, some became more dickish. Christianity gace (and gives) people a very valuable excuse to be dickish.


No, it does not. They use Christianity as an excuse, but Christianity does not "give" it to them.
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Postby Nightkill the Emperor » Mon Oct 29, 2012 2:41 pm

The De Danann Nation wrote:
Abatael wrote:
Because people are not accepting, which are different form Christianity.


You never see Buddhist,Jains,Sikhs,etc running around starting crusades to reclaim the "holy land" and stoning people to death for adultery.

They don't have a holy land, they just kill you.

Or in Bhutan's case, kick you out of your home.
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Postby Mavorpen » Mon Oct 29, 2012 2:41 pm

Sassinia wrote:
Mavorpen wrote:Source?


The Reconquestia, Crusades, etc. were all caused by Catholic Christians, not Protestant.

Although, I must admit some Protestants can be as intolerant as Catholics.

Tell us, how much of the population of Christians are Catholics.
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Postby Frisivisia » Mon Oct 29, 2012 2:41 pm

Abatael wrote:
Frisivisia wrote:So the Old Testament isn't real? Not in the Bible? At all?


What?

You just completely disowned the Old Testament. Is it not in vogue for you Christians anymore?
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Postby Frisivisia » Mon Oct 29, 2012 2:42 pm

Abatael wrote:
Frisivisia wrote:Some remained undickish, some became more dickish. Christianity gace (and gives) people a very valuable excuse to be dickish.


No, it does not. They use Christianity as an excuse, but Christianity does not "give" it to them.

I'd say that the promise of a heaven to go to and a God who will reward you is incentive to lay down your life.
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Postby Socialist Monarchies » Mon Oct 29, 2012 2:42 pm

Frisivisia wrote:
Abatael wrote:
What?

You just completely disowned the Old Testament. Is it not in vogue for you Christians anymore?


The OT is allegorical only.
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Postby South Cvandia » Mon Oct 29, 2012 2:43 pm

Abatael wrote:
South Cvandia wrote:Then tell me then, why is the old testament even f@%king included in the bible if you DONT BELIEVE IT!?!


Because it is spiritually rooted in Christianity.


If you don't believe the entire bible in its entirety or make up excuses to not believe in it, you are not a true christian. Jesus said in Mathew 5:17-18.
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Postby The Multiversal Species Alliance » Mon Oct 29, 2012 2:43 pm

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Postby Frisivisia » Mon Oct 29, 2012 2:44 pm

Socialist Monarchies wrote:
Frisivisia wrote:Some remained undickish, some became more dickish. Christianity gace (and gives) people a very valuable excuse to be dickish.


So does every other ideology in the world, it's how you use it that matters.

People don't regularly die in the defense of Austrian-School economics.
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Postby Lombaas » Mon Oct 29, 2012 2:44 pm

Ile Tobi wrote:I wonder what the others are.

Me: Pantheism.

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Abatael
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Postby Abatael » Mon Oct 29, 2012 2:44 pm

The De Danann Nation wrote:
Abatael wrote:
That wasn't an argument up there, that was an assertion.

No, it's not; people are/

Maybe in the Old Testament, but the covenants of the Old Testament were replaced upon the first arrival of Jesus Christ.


So just because God changed the covenants,his atrocious laws are just forgotten?


Yes, but the Old Testament is still significant; that is why it is in the Holy Bible.

Frisivisia wrote:
Abatael wrote:
That's a whole different thing, and I'd love to continue this in a more appropriate place, such as the telegrams.



Yes, generally they are; though they can be good at times.



You don't see any Christians doing that either. Why? Because they don't do that.

Christians are certainly horrible to gays and muslims. Let's not forget about the troubles in the Balkans, caused by Christianity and Islam clashing.


Christians might be, but Christianity does not call for that.
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Postby Frisivisia » Mon Oct 29, 2012 2:44 pm

Socialist Monarchies wrote:
Frisivisia wrote:You just completely disowned the Old Testament. Is it not in vogue for you Christians anymore?


The OT is allegorical only.

But the NT is totally legit? Jesus said some pretty crazy shit.
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