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by Cill Airne » Sun Oct 28, 2012 12:49 pm
Sulamalik wrote:I'm surprised that there are so many Muslims on NSG, at least in relation to Jews. The amount of posts on the Jewish discussion thread compared to the Islam one would of suggested otherwise.
by Mavorpen » Sun Oct 28, 2012 12:53 pm
by South Cvandia » Sun Oct 28, 2012 12:55 pm
Lyncanestria wrote:South Cvandia wrote:
So? What is pure christianity then? All the denominations you disagree with are wrong then because they don't abide by what you believe to be christianity?
That was not the point I meant to make: that there is only one true Christianity. The point I tried to make was that Mormonism and Christianity do not belong in the same category due to the fact that the doctrine of the LDS church (Book of Mormon and Journal of Discourses) go in direct contradiction to the Bible. Now, I am not a Christian fundamentalist nor a fanatical religious zealot, I was just saying that Mormon doctrine Nd Christian doctrine are not that similar with a few exceptions and therefore should not, in MY OPINION, notbe recogniyed as "Christian" but have its own category. Again, that's MY personal opinion. Obviously there is no "perfect" or "correct" Christianity nor do I say there is, all I said is that I live by what I read in my Bible.
by Lyncanestria » Sun Oct 28, 2012 1:09 pm
South Cvandia wrote:...But in all honesty, I haven't researched this topic too much. I'm basing it off the 2 arguements I've heard. (Morman Aunt, "Christian" Parents).
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by The De Danann Nation » Sun Oct 28, 2012 1:18 pm
Lyncanestria wrote:South Cvandia wrote:...But in all honesty, I haven't researched this topic too much. I'm basing it off the 2 arguements I've heard. (Morman Aunt, "Christian" Parents).
Well you should probably do more research on both Christianity and Mormonism before you claim that they are very similar. The truth is the two doctrines are not that similar. The Doctrine of Eternal Progression, the different idea of Mary's conception, the idea of there being not one but many Gods, and the (original doctrine, but now stopped) practice of Polygamy are just a few of the BIG, contradictory doctrines in the Book of Mormon or the Journal of Discourses which are in direct conflict with word from the Bible. Again, I'm just trying to prove my point that Mormonism is not under the "Christian" category.
by Lyncanestria » Sun Oct 28, 2012 1:29 pm
The De Danann Nation wrote:If that's the case,almost every sect of Christianity is not Christianity.Mormons believe in and worship Jesus,that pretty much fits the definition of Christianity.
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by The De Danann Nation » Sun Oct 28, 2012 1:35 pm
Lyncanestria wrote:The De Danann Nation wrote:If that's the case,almost every sect of Christianity is not Christianity.Mormons believe in and worship Jesus,that pretty much fits the definition of Christianity.
It really bothers me when people DON'T read my posts fully. I even mentioned MAJOR PARTS of Mormon doctrine which separate . Obviously every denomination of Christianity has either added or removed or over-emphasized a particular part to Christianity but NEVER at the scale of the LDS church in which Joseph Smith supposedly received Golden Tablets from the Angel Moroni and basically completely re-wrote the doctrine of the apostles into something which in many parts went again the original doctrine of Christianity. Yes, other Christian denominations have done their own "twist" (like the inclusion of the Papacy in the Roman Catholic Church per se) but never to the point of Joseph Smith.
GEEZ. I had already mentioned this in my previous post that it was due to the complete inclusion of a doctrine which many times is in contradiction to the Bible. THAT separates them from the rest and why I think they should have their own category.I bet Catholics are going to get on me now for mentioning the Pope
by Lyncanestria » Sun Oct 28, 2012 1:44 pm
The De Danann Nation wrote:Lyncanestria wrote:It really bothers me when people DON'T read my posts fully. I even mentioned MAJOR PARTS of Mormon doctrine which separate . Obviously every denomination of Christianity has either added or removed or over-emphasized a particular part to Christianity but NEVER at the scale of the LDS church in which Joseph Smith supposedly received Golden Tablets from the Angel Moroni and basically completely re-wrote the doctrine of the apostles into something which in many parts went again the original doctrine of Christianity. Yes, other Christian denominations have done their own "twist" (like the inclusion of the Papacy in the Roman Catholic Church per se) but never to the point of Joseph Smith.
GEEZ. I had already mentioned this in my previous post that it was due to the complete inclusion of a doctrine which many times is in contradiction to the Bible. THAT separates them from the rest and why I think they should have their own category.I bet Catholics are going to get on me now for mentioning the Pope
The definition of Christianity from Merriam Webster dictionary.
1.: the religion derived from Jesus Christ, based on the Bible as sacred scripture, and professed by Eastern, Roman Catholic, and Protestant bodies
Just because Joseph Smith edited a bunch of things around doesn't mean it's not Christianity.
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by South Cvandia » Sun Oct 28, 2012 2:01 pm
Lyncanestria wrote:The De Danann Nation wrote:
The definition of Christianity from Merriam Webster dictionary.
1.: the religion derived from Jesus Christ, based on the Bible as sacred scripture, and professed by Eastern, Roman Catholic, and Protestant bodies
Just because Joseph Smith edited a bunch of things around doesn't mean it's not Christianity.
In case you didn't know, Joseph Smith did not edit the Bible, he "transcribed" ancient Egyptian hieroglyphics into modern English who were given to him by the angel Moroni and placed THAT scripture (the Book of Mormon) before the Bible. The standpoint from where I am making my point is that the LDS Church places more importance on the Book of Mormon, followed by the Journal of Discourses and then the Bible (whose commandments can be overridden if it says so in the Book of Mormon). If I was to start a religion today and have Jesus as my central figure, but said it was okay to murder, to steal, that there are gods in nature, that we should also worship the sun as well, would that still be Christianity? NO. Because, even as you pointed out with your definition: it places the Bible as sacred scripture, though the Mormon Church may have the Bible as "sacred", they tend to live off the Book of Mormon, Doctrine and Covenants, and the Journal of Discourses, rather than living by the Bible's commandments (which as I said, sometimes contradicts the Book of Mormon).
)] ) violate, or don't take literal the teachings of the bible, does that mean it is not christianity? As I stated in my first post, I have not, and do not plan on researching Mormanism as it has no relation to my life, nor will it ever affect me. Though, they do worship Jesus Christ (to my knowledge) before any other beings. So what if they believe they can become a god themselves, it means nothing. **This post is highly opinionated, not sourced and should not be taken heavily.**by Olivaero » Sun Oct 28, 2012 2:02 pm
I attend Church semi regularly I'd say I definitely believe there is a God out there... but some times I waver on whether I am worshiping him correctly.by Nightkill the Emperor » Sun Oct 28, 2012 2:09 pm
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by Nightkill the Emperor » Sun Oct 28, 2012 2:21 pm
by Nightkill the Emperor » Sun Oct 28, 2012 2:24 pm
New New Capston wrote:How can I edit my poll vote?
by Nightkill the Emperor » Sun Oct 28, 2012 2:26 pm
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by Olivaero » Sun Oct 28, 2012 2:28 pm
Probably would of made more sense to put Taoism or Confucianism Up there...by New New Capston » Sun Oct 28, 2012 2:29 pm
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