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What religion are you?

Judaism
22
2%
Christianity
319
34%
Islam
33
4%
Hinduism
7
1%
Buddhism
22
2%
Shinto
7
1%
Paganism (Wicca, Druidry, Asatru, etc.)
41
4%
Atheist
297
32%
Agnostic
112
12%
Other
76
8%
 
Total votes : 936
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Postby Forster Keys » Fri Nov 02, 2012 6:38 am

Menassa wrote:
Dyakovo wrote:No, 12% of people think that a response to a question of knowledge is appropriate as a response to a question of belief.

And only 2% of people still adhere to some sort of remnant of "The Religion That Started It All"


Started it all?
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Postby Menassa » Fri Nov 02, 2012 6:39 am

Forster Keys wrote:
Menassa wrote:And only 2% of people still adhere to some sort of remnant of "The Religion That Started It All"


Started it all?

Well by it all...... I mean the other two Abrahamic religions.
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Postby Forster Keys » Fri Nov 02, 2012 6:40 am

Menassa wrote:
Forster Keys wrote:
Started it all?

Well by it all...... I mean the other two Abrahamic religions.


Fair enough. :lol:
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Postby Dyakovo » Fri Nov 02, 2012 6:41 am

Forster Keys wrote:
Dyakovo wrote:No, 12% of people think that a response to a question of knowledge is appropriate as a response to a question of belief.


Your wording is fucking with my head. :(

Why? It's pretty straight forward...
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Postby Forster Keys » Fri Nov 02, 2012 6:48 am

Dyakovo wrote:
Forster Keys wrote:
Your wording is fucking with my head. :(

Why? It's pretty straight forward...


Not for me.

Agnosticism answers the question of whether or not you know (or can know) if a deity or deity exists...

Atheism answers the question of whether or not you have belief in a deity or deities...


I'm still frightfully confused. So atheism and agnosticism can coexist?
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Postby Cyanesia » Fri Nov 02, 2012 6:50 am

I am a member of the Church of the Flying Spaghetti Monster. (aka. the greatest religion ever)
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Postby Dyakovo » Fri Nov 02, 2012 6:51 am

Forster Keys wrote:
Dyakovo wrote:Why? It's pretty straight forward...


Not for me.

Agnosticism answers the question of whether or not you know (or can know) if a deity or deity exists...

Atheism answers the question of whether or not you have belief in a deity or deities...


I'm still frightfully confused. So atheism and agnosticism can coexist?

Yes. Most atheists are agnostic atheists.

Edit: there's agnostic theists as well...
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Postby Forster Keys » Fri Nov 02, 2012 6:58 am

Dyakovo wrote:
Forster Keys wrote:
Not for me.



I'm still frightfully confused. So atheism and agnosticism can coexist?

Yes. Most atheists are agnostic atheists.

Edit: there's agnostic theists as well...
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Now I understand, thanks. I'm probably an agnostic atheist or pantheist then.
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Postby Divair » Fri Nov 02, 2012 7:00 am

Forster Keys wrote:
Dyakovo wrote:Yes. Most atheists are agnostic atheists.

Edit: there's agnostic theists as well...
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Now I understand, thanks. I'm probably an agnostic atheist or pantheist then.

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Postby Forster Keys » Fri Nov 02, 2012 7:06 am

Divair wrote:
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Now I understand, thanks. I'm probably an agnostic atheist or pantheist then.

Welcome to the club.


Yay!

But whether I qualify sort of depends on one's definition of god.
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Postby Dyakovo » Fri Nov 02, 2012 7:14 am

Forster Keys wrote:
Divair wrote:Welcome to the club.


Yay!

But whether I qualify sort of depends on one's definition of god.

Deity wrote:A being, supernatural or preternatural, with superhuman powers or qualities, and who may be thought of as holy, divine, or sacred.

This is the one I generally use...
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Postby Forster Keys » Fri Nov 02, 2012 7:23 am

Dyakovo wrote:
Forster Keys wrote:
Yay!

But whether I qualify sort of depends on one's definition of god.

Deity wrote:A being, supernatural or preternatural, with superhuman powers or qualities, and who may be thought of as holy, divine, or sacred.

This is the one I generally use...


Well I don't believe, or at least don't see any evidence for the personification of divinity...
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Postby Lemonius » Fri Nov 02, 2012 8:25 am

I'm an anti-thiest, albeit a quiet one.
I don't like religion, I practically hate it for my own personal reasons; But If you want to be in one, that's fine.. Just don't let it meddle in my life, or in the affairs of the state.
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Postby Wind in the Willows » Fri Nov 02, 2012 8:31 am

Pastafarian.
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Postby Samozaryadnyastan » Fri Nov 02, 2012 8:55 am

I qualify as agnostic atheist because while I do not believe in a God or Gods as religion teaches or worship implies, I do accept the possibility of a race of beings of godlike power.
Since to be a deity, it has to be granted a 'religious meaning' of divinity (the definition that Dyakovo supplied implies that a deity must be worshipped), I'm still technically atheist.

I'm sort of anti-religion, as a further.
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Postby Franklin Delano Bluth » Fri Nov 02, 2012 9:16 am

The poll, as constructed, is invalid since "Christian" is a subset of "Atheist".
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Postby The De Danann Nation » Fri Nov 02, 2012 9:26 am

Franklin Delano Bluth wrote:The poll, as constructed, is invalid since "Christian" is a subset of "Atheist".


No it's not.Christianity believes in God,it's not atheism.
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Postby Crystal Spires » Fri Nov 02, 2012 9:30 am

The De Danann Nation wrote:No it's not.Christianity believes in God,it's not atheism.


I see his point in that Christians don't believe in all Gods. They are atheistic with regards to all Gods but their own, the God of Abraham, but this is pushing a rather odd definition of Atheism tho.
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Postby Dyakovo » Fri Nov 02, 2012 9:32 am

Franklin Delano Bluth wrote:The poll, as constructed, is invalid since "Christian" is a subset of "Atheist".

Only by your definition of Christianity, which next to no-one uses.
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Postby Dyakovo » Fri Nov 02, 2012 9:33 am

Crystal Spires wrote:
The De Danann Nation wrote:No it's not.Christianity believes in God,it's not atheism.


I see his point in that Christians don't believe in all Gods. They are atheistic with regards to all Gods but their own, the God of Abraham, but this is pushing a rather odd definition of Atheism tho.

No, you don't see his point, because what you're saying isn't it.
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Postby Crystal Spires » Fri Nov 02, 2012 9:35 am

But Christians are Atheists to the Asatru believers.
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Postby The De Danann Nation » Fri Nov 02, 2012 9:38 am

Crystal Spires wrote:But Christians are Atheists to the Asatru believers.


No,they'd still be monotheist,even to pagans.
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