Fellow Christians: Do you have any unorthodox beliefs?

[Insel des Mondes]

I am Methodist, but I pray the Hail Mary and the Hail Holy Queen. I kind of like Marian veneration. Also, I am pro-choice, pro-gay rights, and I believe in deistic evolution.

[Tsaraine]

Back on track please, cats and kittens! This is a thread for discussion of Christian heterodoxy. Evolution discussion should go elsewhere.

~ Tsar the Mod.

[Silician]

I know, but I made my point.

You don't have a point.

Lets stop this nonsense, I'm beyond arguing about creationism. I really don't care about that much. I may be wrong about a few things, and that's ok. Everybody makes mistakes. This is a learning experience for me, that's why I asked about evolution in the first place.

[Great Barrier Reefer]

I know, but I made my point.

If you had only one lung, you probably would be dead

Actually, it would expand to fill the entire cavity, much like when people have part or a whole lung removed.

[Evil Siamese Cats]

I believe in following the teaching of Jesus on a very basic level. I believe that the Ten Commandments are less important than Jesus' statement of "Love the Lord with all your heart, soul, and mind, and love your neighbor as yourself." I also believe that Jesus' life on Earth is more important to me than His death on the cross.

Simply put, Jesus was a smart person from whom we can learn a lot. That said, given how crooked, sinful, and just plain humanity is, Jesus' death on the cross to pay humanity's sins is, in my eyes, the equivalent of a 9-year-old paying off the national debt of America with a half-eaten Snickers bar.

[Desperate Measures]

I'm a Catholic, but I'm for gay rights, I'm pro-choice, and I'm for the general use of birth control. I also believe in evolution, just not the evolution of man.

EDIT: I'm also for a secular government and secular schools.

Wouldn't it be easier to believe that divine intervention was used between caveman and man? I think that is what I'd tell myself if I thought like you. But I'm making that up. I don't know if you should believe something I just made up. Unless you want to send me money. Then I definitely advise you to believe anything I say.

[Meryuma]

I also believe in evolution, just not the evolution of man.

In that case, you're more creationist than most Catholics.

[Menassa]

I believe in following the teaching of Jesus on a very basic level. I believe that the Ten Commandments are less important than Jesus' statement of "Love the Lord with all your heart, soul, and mind, and love your neighbor as yourself."

Whoa.

ה. וְאָהַבְתָּ אֵת יְהֹוָה אֱלֹהֶיךָ בְּכָללְבָבְךָ וּבְכָלנַפְשְׁךָ וּבְכָלמְאֹדֶךָ:
5. And you shall love the Lord, your God, with all your heart and with all your soul, and with all your means.
Deuteronomy 7:5.

יח. לֹאתִקֹּם וְלֹאתִטֹּר אֶתבְּנֵי עַמֶּךָ וְאָהַבְתָּ לְרֵעֲךָ כָּמוֹךָ אֲנִי יְהוָֹה:
18. You shall neither take revenge from nor bear a grudge against the members of your people; you shall love your neighbor as yourself. I am the Lord.
Leviticus 19:18

Sounds like good 'ole Jesus had a bit of... inspiration *wink* *wink* *nudge *nudge*

or he plagiarized........

[Great Barrier Reefer]

I believe in following the teaching of Jesus on a very basic level. I believe that the Ten Commandments are less important than Jesus' statement of "Love the Lord with all your heart, soul, and mind, and love your neighbor as yourself."

Whoa.

ה. וְאָהַבְתָּ אֵת יְהֹוָה אֱלֹהֶיךָ בְּכָללְבָבְךָ וּבְכָלנַפְשְׁךָ וּבְכָלמְאֹדֶךָ:
5. And you shall love the Lord, your God, with all your heart and with all your soul, and with all your means.
Deuteronomy 7:5.

יח. לֹאתִקֹּם וְלֹאתִטֹּר אֶתבְּנֵי עַמֶּךָ וְאָהַבְתָּ לְרֵעֲךָ כָּמוֹךָ אֲנִי יְהוָֹה:
18. You shall neither take revenge from nor bear a grudge against the members of your people; you shall love your neighbor as yourself. I am the Lord.
Leviticus 19:18

Sounds like good 'ole Jesus had a bit of... inspiration *wink* *wink* *nudge *nudge*

or he plagiarized........

Pretty sure he couldn't read. And you have to understand, Christians were Jews. In fact according to the New Testament, Jesus didn't teach Gentiles, in fact it wasn't until after Jesus's death that Peter started to teach Gentiles. So, of course he's going to quote the Tanakh.

[Menassa]

Whoa.

ה. וְאָהַבְתָּ אֵת יְהֹוָה אֱלֹהֶיךָ בְּכָללְבָבְךָ וּבְכָלנַפְשְׁךָ וּבְכָלמְאֹדֶךָ:
5. And you shall love the Lord, your God, with all your heart and with all your soul, and with all your means.
Deuteronomy 7:5.

יח. לֹאתִקֹּם וְלֹאתִטֹּר אֶתבְּנֵי עַמֶּךָ וְאָהַבְתָּ לְרֵעֲךָ כָּמוֹךָ אֲנִי יְהוָֹה:
18. You shall neither take revenge from nor bear a grudge against the members of your people; you shall love your neighbor as yourself. I am the Lord.
Leviticus 19:18

Sounds like good 'ole Jesus had a bit of... inspiration *wink* *wink* *nudge *nudge*

or he plagiarized........

Pretty sure he couldn't read. And you have to understand, Christians were Jews. In fact according to the New Testament, Jesus didn't teach Gentiles, in fact it wasn't until after Jesus's death that Peter started to teach Gentiles. So, of course he's going to quote the Tanakh.

How do you figure he couldn't read?

Also the original poster said Jesus's Statement.

[Great Barrier Reefer]

Pretty sure he couldn't read. And you have to understand, Christians were Jews. In fact according to the New Testament, Jesus didn't teach Gentiles, in fact it wasn't until after Jesus's death that Peter started to teach Gentiles. So, of course he's going to quote the Tanakh.

How do you figure he couldn't read?

Also the original poster said Jesus's Statement.

Well, only 2 or 3 of the apostles actually ever wrote anything down, Jesus didn't write anything we have record of. I also doubt a carpenter could read back then, much less his step son. And the he quoting the Tanakh, is Jesus in my post.

[Menassa]

How do you figure he couldn't read?

Also the original poster said Jesus's Statement.

Well, only 2 or 3 of the apostles actually ever wrote anything down, Jesus didn't write anything we have record of. I also doubt a carpenter could read back then, much less his step son. And the he quoting the Tanakh, is Jesus in my post.

Well, if he was from monarchy(ish) decent he should have been able to read.... but he wasn't from Monarchy(ish) decent.

[United Kingdom of Muffins]

My church is basicaly do whatever the hell you want and love jebus.

[Menassa]

My church is basicaly do whatever the hell you want and love jebus.

That sounds very 'feel-good' without putting in any effort.

[Prussia-Steinbach]

...I believe in a heaven that everyone goes to and some kind of reincarnation.

Yeah... That might be so unorthodox, it's, hehe, un-Christian.

[Reggae Magmia]

I was baptised Catholic but rarely go to church, when I do they're usually Church of England or Methodist, I do not believe in much of the Old Testament (e.g. Adam and Eve, Noah's Ark) but I believe in most of the New Testament and the story of Jesus, I don't believe in he'll but I believe in a heaven that everyone goes to and some kind of reincarnation. I believe in a soul, I'm probably pro-gay marriage but in most cases anti-abortion. Also, I see little difference between different types of Christians or even between Christians and Jews.

Are there any other theistic Christians here who have beliefs that aren't mainstream in your denomination?

(Also, no anti-Christian flaming please.)

A Christian IS a Theist.

I suppose the fact that I reject the idea of having denominations is unorthodox....

[Defensor]

Ugh, these post always end up being an argument or a rage/rant fest.

You belive what you're gonna believe, and no rage ranting on the forums will change that...sadly...

On that note, I am a Christian who believes that Jesus is the Savior and that The Father raised him from the dead. And as far as I know, that's what defines a Christian, someone who believes that simple fact.

Anything else is between you and God.

[Frisivisia]

If you are Catholic or Protestant of any stripe, you have unOrthodox views.

[Great Barrier Reefer]

Well, if he was from monarchy(ish) decent he should have been able to read.... but he wasn't from Monarchy(ish) decent.

So we're good then?

[Menassa]

Well, if he was from monarchy(ish) decent he should have been able to read.... but he wasn't from Monarchy(ish) decent.

So we're good then?

Meh, I still think he would have been able to read.

[Great Barrier Reefer]

If you are Catholic or Protestant of any stripe, you have unOrthodox views.

[Manahakatouki]

So we're good then?

Meh, I still think he would have been able to read.

He sounds quite educated, but I wouldn't be surprised if he couldn't read or write at all...

I suppose it wasn't necessary...

[Menassa]

Meh, I still think he would have been able to read.

He sounds quite educated, but I wouldn't be surprised if he couldn't read or write at all...

I suppose it wasn't necessary...

Hmm simple farmers couldn't read and by the time Jesus was around... the state was in total disarray..... but maybe.... some people were educated.... though not like the first temple where most were educated.

[Vazdania]

I was baptised Catholic but rarely go to church, when I do they're usually Church of England or Methodist, I do not believe in much of the Old Testament (e.g. Adam and Eve, Noah's Ark) but I believe in most of the New Testament and the story of Jesus, I don't believe in he'll but I believe in a heaven that everyone goes to and some kind of reincarnation. I believe in a soul, I'm probably pro-gay marriage but in most cases anti-abortion. Also, I see little difference between different types of Christians or even between Christians and Jews.

Are there any other theistic Christians here who have beliefs that aren't mainstream in your denomination?

(Also, no anti-Christian flaming please.)

I am a Non-trinitarian Baptist. I believe in God Jesus and the Holy Spirit, and believe that each of them preform separate functions, and I believe in all 3 of them. But I do not believe they are the same being.

[Menassa]

I was baptised Catholic but rarely go to church, when I do they're usually Church of England or Methodist, I do not believe in much of the Old Testament (e.g. Adam and Eve, Noah's Ark) but I believe in most of the New Testament and the story of Jesus, I don't believe in he'll but I believe in a heaven that everyone goes to and some kind of reincarnation. I believe in a soul, I'm probably pro-gay marriage but in most cases anti-abortion. Also, I see little difference between different types of Christians or even between Christians and Jews.

Are there any other theistic Christians here who have beliefs that aren't mainstream in your denomination?

(Also, no anti-Christian flaming please.)

I am a Non-trinitarian Baptist. I believe in God Jesus and the Holy Spirit, and believe that each of them preform separate functions, and I believe in all 3 of them. But I do not believe they are the same being.

Polytheism much?