Fellow Christians: Do you have any unorthodox beliefs?

[Silician]

That's a good question, I'm not exactly sure myself . But my belief is that I shouldn't be ignorant and I should accept the fact that evolution is scientifically correct. I do believe that humans were created separately by God, though. Obviously humans have "evolved" in the sense that they're intellectually better than early humans (Cro-Magnon, Neanderthals, etc.) and I think that's due to natural selection. But the idea that we've evolved from chimpanzees is not evident. If we indeed evolved from gorillas or chimpanzees, wouldn't the gorillas or chimpanzees not exist in today's society?

If Americans were Europeans, why do Europeans exist?

Human life started in Africa and they migrated all throughout the world over thousands of years.

[Divair]

If Americans were Europeans, why do Europeans exist?

Human life started in Africa and they spread all throughout the world over thousands of years.

And if you'd pay attention, humans can be vastly different, even within one species.


Now, if you multiply the amount of time and the amount of variables that could cause evolution, it's not very hard to see the logic in why humans and apes share a common ancestor (and, thus, why they look very similar when compared to the rest of the animal kingdom).

[Silician]

Human life started in Africa and they spread all throughout the world over thousands of years.

And if you'd pay attention, humans can be vastly different, even within one species.


Now, if you multiply the amount of time and the amount of variables that could cause evolution, it's not very hard to see the logic in why humans and apes share a common ancestor (and, thus, why they look very similar when compared to the rest of the animal kingdom).

Just because we are of the same taxonomic family doesn't make us the same species or even the same genus. EDIT: I'm not saying I don't agree with you, they may share common ancestors and they have similar genetic makeup, but that doesn't mean we are one in the same.

[Caninope]

Doesn't the Bible advocate the Trinity? That would mean that God, Jesus, and the Holy Spirit have coexisted forever.

(please note, these are not my beliefs. I am an agnostic atheist)

The Bible does not advocate the trinity. Translation done by the main stream churches however, who endorsed the trinity, were changed to endorse that view. Certain passages are open to misinterpretation. Besides, the whole belief in the Trinity does not make since. Logically, something cannot be three things yet one thing. Also, it is mathematically impossible for Jesus to have been "100% man and
100% god".

Sure it is.

Otherwise, it's impossible for photons to be both particles and waves.

[Divair]

And if you'd pay attention, humans can be vastly different, even within one species.


Now, if you multiply the amount of time and the amount of variables that could cause evolution, it's not very hard to see the logic in why humans and apes share a common ancestor (and, thus, why they look very similar when compared to the rest of the animal kingdom).

Just because we are of the same taxonomic family doesn't make us the same species or even the same genus.

Referring to who? Apes or other humans?

Apes aren't part of our species. They are, however, closely related because we share a common ancestor.
Other humans are part of our species. (hint: we're all humans)

[New Sapienta]

Curious. How do you scientifically justify the belief that men did not evolve, when you seem to accept the evidence for animal evolution?

If we indeed evolved from gorillas or chimpanzees, wouldn't the gorillas or chimpanzees not exist in today's society?

I really, really hate it when someone says this.

We did not evolve from chimpanzees and gorillas. We evolved from a common ancestor, who was neither human, nor gorilla, nor chimpanzee.

And if we did evolve from them, that doesn't mean they would be gone. There are several different types of swallows aren't there?

[Horses and Bayonets]

I am an evoloutionist christain

[Silician]

If we indeed evolved from gorillas or chimpanzees, wouldn't the gorillas or chimpanzees not exist in today's society?

I really, really hate it when someone says this.

We did not evolve from chimpanzees and gorillas. We evolved from a common ancestor, who was neither human, nor gorilla, nor chimpanzee.

And if we did evolve from them, that doesn't mean they would gone. There are several different types of swallows aren't there?

I agree with your first point. However, all the different types of swallows you see are most likely due to mutation, not evolution.

[Divair]

I really, really hate it when someone says this.

We did not evolve from chimpanzees and gorillas. We evolved from a common ancestor, who was neither human, nor gorilla, nor chimpanzee.

And if we did evolve from them, that doesn't mean they would gone. There are several different types of swallows aren't there?

I agree with your first point. However, all the different types swallows you see are most likely due to mutation, not evolution.

Mutation is how evolution works.

[New Sapienta]

I really, really hate it when someone says this.

We did not evolve from chimpanzees and gorillas. We evolved from a common ancestor, who was neither human, nor gorilla, nor chimpanzee.

And if we did evolve from them, that doesn't mean they would gone. There are several different types of swallows aren't there?

I agree with your first point. However, all the different types swallows you see are most likely due to mutation, not evolution.

Let's say colonies of chimpanzees are isolated due to some geographic event. They spend thousands of years away from the chimpanzees that they used to belong to.

They would evolve to be diffrent than the other chimps.

[Silician]

I agree with your first point. However, all the different types swallows you see are most likely due to mutation, not evolution.

Mutation is how evolution works.

Yes, but if a human were to receive a genetic mutation giving him only one lung, he would still be human.

[Divair]

Mutation is how evolution works.

Yes, but if a human were to receive a genetic mutation giving him only one lung, he would still be human.

Duh. Species aren't born overnight, you realize, right?

It takes thousands of years, if not tens of thousands.

[New Sapienta]

Mutation is how evolution works.

Yes, but if a human were to receive a genetic mutation giving him only one lung, he would still be human.

Evolution happens over hundreds of generations.

[Tapanthania]

Yes I am a christian but at the same time i follow A LOT of Buddhist teachings...I am a total hippy and unlike most christians i don't have an issues with other peoples beliefs or actions...if somebody wants to be gay let them!!! it isn't my life to control

[Horses and Bayonets]

I agree with your first point. However, all the different types swallows you see are most likely due to mutation, not evolution.

Let's say colonies of chimpanzees are isolated due to some geographic event. They spend thousands of years away from the chimpanzees that they used to belong to.

They would evolve to be diffrent than the other chimps.

However it may not result in an Australopithecus, it would likely create a miniture chimp in that situation

[Norstal]

Are we having a fucking creationist debate in the 21st century?

I agree with your first point. However, all the different types of swallows you see are most likely due to mutation, not evolution.

Define evolution. Please, do so. You have a biology degree, right?

[New Sapienta]

Let's say colonies of chimpanzees are isolated due to some geographic event. They spend thousands of years away from the chimpanzees that they used to belong to.

They would evolve to be diffrent than the other chimps.

However it may not result in an Australopithecus, it would likely create a miniture chimp in that situation

It may over hundreds of thousands of years.

[Divair]

Are we having a fucking creationist debate in the 21st century?

I'm still shocked we've come so far technologically, yet culturally so many people are stuck in the past.

[Demphor]

Yes. LGBT rights. (I'm Catholic)

This
and abortions

[Horses and Bayonets]

However it may not result in an Australopithecus, it would likely create a miniture chimp in that situation

It may over hundreds of thousands of years.

I know
Also, if evoloution does not exist and nothing changes, why do species go extinct?

[New Sapienta]

It may over hundreds of thousands of years.

I know
Also, if evoloution does not exist and nothing changes, why do species go extinct?

By being exterminated?

Although it would eman since no new species exst we would live in a barren earth.

[Silician]

Yes, but if a human were to receive a genetic mutation giving him only one lung, he would still be human.

Duh. Species aren't born overnight, you realize, right?

It takes thousands of years, if not tens of thousands.

I know, but I made my point.

[New Sapienta]

Duh. Species aren't born overnight, you realize, right?

It takes thousands of years, if not tens of thousands.

I know, but I made my point.

Swallows did not mutate overnight.

[Divair]

Duh. Species aren't born overnight, you realize, right?

It takes thousands of years, if not tens of thousands.

I know, but I made my point.

You don't have a point.

[Horses and Bayonets]

Duh. Species aren't born overnight, you realize, right?

It takes thousands of years, if not tens of thousands.

I know, but I made my point.

If you had only one lung, you probably would be dead