
by Chinamerica » Wed Oct 24, 2012 3:31 pm

by Franklin Delano Bluth » Wed Oct 24, 2012 3:48 pm

by Tlaceceyaya » Wed Oct 24, 2012 3:49 pm
Dimitri Tsafendas wrote:You are guilty not only when you commit a crime, but also when you do nothing to prevent it when you have the chance.

by Risottia » Wed Oct 24, 2012 3:50 pm

by Segland » Wed Oct 24, 2012 3:51 pm
Chinamerica wrote:I was baptised Catholic but rarely go to church, when I do they're usually Church of England or Methodist, I do not believe in much of the Old Testament (e.g. Adam and Eve, Noah's Ark) but I believe in most of the New Testament and the story of Jesus, I don't believe in he'll but I believe in a heaven that everyone goes to and some kind of reincarnation. I believe in a soul, I'm probably pro-gay marriage but in most cases anti-abortion. Also, I see little difference between different types of Christians or even between Christians and Jews.
Are there any other theistic Christians here who have beliefs that aren't mainstream in your denomination?
(Also, no anti-Christian flaming please.)

by Bordurian » Wed Oct 24, 2012 3:52 pm

by Benutanairan » Wed Oct 24, 2012 3:52 pm
Chinamerica wrote:I was baptised Catholic but rarely go to church, when I do they're usually Church of England or Methodist, I do not believe in much of the Old Testament (e.g. Adam and Eve, Noah's Ark) but I believe in most of the New Testament and the story of Jesus, I don't believe in he'll but I believe in a heaven that everyone goes to and some kind of reincarnation. I believe in a soul, I'm probably pro-gay marriage but in most cases anti-abortion. Also, I see little difference between different types of Christians or even between Christians and Jews.
Are there any other theistic Christians here who have beliefs that aren't mainstream in your denomination?
(Also, no anti-Christian flaming please.)

by Catan » Wed Oct 24, 2012 3:53 pm
Segland wrote:Chinamerica wrote:I was baptised Catholic but rarely go to church, when I do they're usually Church of England or Methodist, I do not believe in much of the Old Testament (e.g. Adam and Eve, Noah's Ark) but I believe in most of the New Testament and the story of Jesus, I don't believe in he'll but I believe in a heaven that everyone goes to and some kind of reincarnation. I believe in a soul, I'm probably pro-gay marriage but in most cases anti-abortion. Also, I see little difference between different types of Christians or even between Christians and Jews.
Are there any other theistic Christians here who have beliefs that aren't mainstream in your denomination?
(Also, no anti-Christian flaming please.)
If you think everyone goes to heaven, wouldn't that contradict the whole point of salvation or whatever else you Christians believe?

by The Ben Boys » Wed Oct 24, 2012 3:54 pm
Catan wrote:Christ was a man and not a god.

by Catan » Wed Oct 24, 2012 3:55 pm
The Ben Boys wrote:Catan wrote:Christ was a man and not a god.
Then your not a Christian, so therefore this doesn't address you.
Legalize all drugs that come from plants, and also PCP. I have no problem with gay marriage, since it isn't marriage in God's eyes nor the church's: simply a civil union, which is all they really want anyways.

by Franklin Delano Bluth » Wed Oct 24, 2012 3:55 pm

by Benutanairan » Wed Oct 24, 2012 3:55 pm
The Ben Boys wrote:Catan wrote:Christ was a man and not a god.
Then your not a Christian, so therefore this doesn't address you.
Legalize all drugs that come from plants, and also PCP. I have no problem with gay marriage, since it isn't marriage in God's eyes nor the church's: simply a civil union, which is all they really want anyways.

by The Ben Boys » Wed Oct 24, 2012 3:57 pm
Catan wrote:The Ben Boys wrote:
Then your not a Christian, so therefore this doesn't address you.
Legalize all drugs that come from plants, and also PCP. I have no problem with gay marriage, since it isn't marriage in God's eyes nor the church's: simply a civil union, which is all they really want anyways.
Actually I am. I follow his teachings.

by Catan » Wed Oct 24, 2012 4:00 pm
The Ben Boys wrote:Catan wrote:Actually I am. I follow his teachings.
Just answered my edit.
But there's a difference between being a Christian and following his teachings. Trusting in him for your salvation is the only thing you need to be a Christian, but as I see it it requires you to believe he's God.

by Silician » Wed Oct 24, 2012 4:03 pm

by Segland » Wed Oct 24, 2012 4:05 pm
Catan wrote:The Ben Boys wrote:
Just answered my edit.
But there's a difference between being a Christian and following his teachings. Trusting in him for your salvation is the only thing you need to be a Christian, but as I see it it requires you to believe he's God.
Trusting in his teaching to bring you closer to God. (He may have become one with God upon his death, but during his time on Earth he was 100% human.) My denomination holds that the concepts of the Virgin Birth and the worship of him as a separate diety were made up later

by The Ben Boys » Wed Oct 24, 2012 4:06 pm
Segland wrote:Catan wrote:Trusting in his teaching to bring you closer to God. (He may have become one with God upon his death, but during his time on Earth he was 100% human.) My denomination holds that the concepts of the Virgin Birth and the worship of him as a separate diety were made up later
Doesn't the Bible advocate the Trinity? That would mean that God, Jesus, and the Holy Spirit have coexisted forever.
(please note, these are not my beliefs. I am an agnostic atheist)

by Catan » Wed Oct 24, 2012 4:06 pm
Silician wrote:I'm a Catholic, but I'm for gay rights, I'm pro-choice, and I'm for the general use of birth control. I also believe in evolution, just not the evolution of man.

by Soviet Canuckistan » Wed Oct 24, 2012 4:07 pm

by The Cookish States » Wed Oct 24, 2012 4:10 pm

by Catan » Wed Oct 24, 2012 4:14 pm
Segland wrote:Catan wrote:Trusting in his teaching to bring you closer to God. (He may have become one with God upon his death, but during his time on Earth he was 100% human.) My denomination holds that the concepts of the Virgin Birth and the worship of him as a separate diety were made up later
Doesn't the Bible advocate the Trinity? That would mean that God, Jesus, and the Holy Spirit have coexisted forever.
(please note, these are not my beliefs. I am an agnostic atheist)

by Silician » Wed Oct 24, 2012 4:21 pm
Catan wrote:Silician wrote:I'm a Catholic, but I'm for gay rights, I'm pro-choice, and I'm for the general use of birth control. I also believe in evolution, just not the evolution of man.
Curious. How do you scientifically justify the belief that men did not evolve, when you seem to accept the evidence for animal evolution?
. But my belief is that I shouldn't be ignorant and I should accept the fact that evolution is scientifically correct. I do believe that humans were created separately by God, though. Obviously humans have "evolved" in the sense that they're intellectually better than early humans (Cro-Magnon, Neanderthals, etc.) and I think that's due to natural selection. But the idea that we've evolved from chimpanzees is not evident. If we indeed evolved from gorillas or chimpanzees, wouldn't the gorillas or chimpanzees not exist in today's society?
by Divair » Wed Oct 24, 2012 4:22 pm
Silician wrote:Catan wrote:Curious. How do you scientifically justify the belief that men did not evolve, when you seem to accept the evidence for animal evolution?
That's a good question, I'm not exactly sure myself. But my belief is that I shouldn't be ignorant and I should accept the fact that evolution is scientifically correct. I do believe that humans were created separately by God, though. Obviously humans have "evolved" in the sense that they're intellectually better than early humans (Cro-Magnon, Neanderthals, etc.) and I think that's due to natural selection. But the idea that we've evolved from chimpanzees is not evident. If we indeed evolved from gorillas or chimpanzees, wouldn't the gorillas or chimpanzees not exist in today's society?
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