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Im shocked there wasnt a thread on this...

Postby The Norse Hordes » Tue Oct 13, 2009 8:10 pm

http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld ... 3274.story

About as many people showed up to this rally as there were at those teabagging rallies...erm, sorry, 'teaparties'.

Im suprised, since so many consertatives on here were all about the tea parties because they were about keeping FREEDOM!!!!, but they didnt mention anything about an equally as large march on the capitol in favor of actual freedom.


Anyway. Anyone go? Does anyone think it will have an effect?
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Postby Post-Unity Terra » Tue Oct 13, 2009 8:11 pm

The Norse Hordes wrote:http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/la-na-gays-rally12-2009oct12,0,6043274.story

About as many people showed up to this rally as there were at those teabagging rallies...erm, sorry, 'teaparties'.

Im suprised, since so many consertatives on here were all about the tea parties because they were about keeping FREEDOM!!!!, but they didnt mention anything about an equally as large march on the capitol in favor of actual freedom.


Didn't you get the memo? Freedom means pissing off the democratic party and nothing more.

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Postby Maurepas » Tue Oct 13, 2009 8:12 pm

Yeah, Im actually watching about that on the Daily Show...odd that they seemed to be the only ones covering it, :eyebrow:

I do believe they had alot more show up than the Teabaggers actually...

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Postby Lackadaisical2 » Tue Oct 13, 2009 8:14 pm

Post-Unity Terra wrote:
The Norse Hordes wrote:http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/la-na-gays-rally12-2009oct12,0,6043274.story

About as many people showed up to this rally as there were at those teabagging rallies...erm, sorry, 'teaparties'.

Im suprised, since so many consertatives on here were all about the tea parties because they were about keeping FREEDOM!!!!, but they didnt mention anything about an equally as large march on the capitol in favor of actual freedom.


Didn't you get the memo? Freedom means pissing off the democratic party and nothing more.


hey, its fun to make dems get pissed, I wouldn't want to not have that be a freedom.

Anyway, as a small gov conservative, I'd say good luck gay rights ppls (also, some of those girls were kinda cute... prolly jailbait tho)
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Postby Bufaalo » Tue Oct 13, 2009 8:16 pm

However, we shouldn't demonize them like alot of online liberals are, for they are promoting America's wonderful system of right to protest/right to free speech. Clearly they are upset and are taking advantage of our constitution. Plus, it's better than rioting.

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Postby New Kereptica » Tue Oct 13, 2009 8:17 pm

Bufaalo wrote:However, we shouldn't demonize them like alot of online liberals are, for they are promoting America's wonderful system of right to protest/right to free speech. Clearly they are upset and are taking advantage of our constitution. Plus, it's better than rioting.


wut?

How many people are opposing them?
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Postby The Norse Hordes » Tue Oct 13, 2009 8:17 pm

Bufaalo wrote:However, we shouldn't demonize them like alot of online liberals are, for they are promoting America's wonderful system of right to protest/right to free speech. Clearly they are upset and are taking advantage of our constitution. Plus, it's better than rioting.



Who shouldnt we demonize, gay people?


Anyway, did anyone go? Anyone think it will get the governments attention?
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Postby Lackadaisical2 » Tue Oct 13, 2009 8:20 pm

The Norse Hordes wrote:
Bufaalo wrote:However, we shouldn't demonize them like alot of online liberals are, for they are promoting America's wonderful system of right to protest/right to free speech. Clearly they are upset and are taking advantage of our constitution. Plus, it's better than rioting.



Who shouldnt we demonize, gay people?


Anyway, did anyone go? Anyone think it will get the governments attention?

I think hes talking about teabaggers.

no, and no.

The gov't doesn't give a shit about little protests. When votes come in against it, on a large scale, maybe, but not until then.
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Postby Khadore » Tue Oct 13, 2009 8:20 pm

Oh it's typical of the fringe media, liberal blogs, liberal occupied forums and left-leaning people won't bother to talk about such things because they want to shut those people down, the real American people down.

Talk about freedom you piss off liberals, Communists, Socialists and Fascists. Um...ok who cares? If they don't like it they can leave their citizenship at the door. I was at one of those teaparties and you saw all walks of life there. Republicans, Conservatives, Independents and even Democrats.

It's all a double standard. You can only praise Obama but if you so much as question him you're villianized, belittled, called a racist, a bigot and every name in the book. I thought this was America, not Nazi Germany or the Soviet Union.
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Postby The Norse Hordes » Tue Oct 13, 2009 8:22 pm

Khadore wrote:the real American people down.



Comments like this are why you are laughed at. Apperantly uneducated redneck bumpkins are 'real 'merikans'.

Despite how it may have come off, this thread isnt about teabaggers, Ill edit my OP.
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Postby Post-Unity Terra » Tue Oct 13, 2009 8:23 pm

Khadore wrote:Oh it's typical of the fringe media, liberal blogs, liberal occupied forums and left-leaning people won't bother to talk about such things because they want to shut those people down, the real American people down.


Lefties don't like to talk about gay rights marches showing up teabaggers?

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Postby Tunizcha » Tue Oct 13, 2009 8:25 pm

Khadore wrote:Oh it's typical of the fringe media, liberal blogs, liberal occupied forums and left-leaning people won't bother to talk about such things because they want to shut those people down, the real American people down.

It's all a double standard. You can only praise Obama but if you so much as question him you're villianized, belittled, called a racist, a bigot and every name in the book. I thought this was America, not Nazi Germany or the Soviet Union.


You know we're talking about a Gay Pride parade, right?

Who is villainizing you for questioning what Obama does? A small percent of people actually believe everything Obama does is right, and a small percent of people believe that everything he does is wrong.
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Postby Soratsin » Tue Oct 13, 2009 8:27 pm

Khadore wrote:Oh it's typical of the fringe media, liberal blogs, liberal occupied forums and left-leaning people won't bother to talk about such things because they want to shut those people down, the real American people down.

You are aware that liberals are typically in favor of gay rights whereas conservatives typically are against gay rights, no?

Talk about freedom you piss off liberals, Communists, Socialists and Fascists. Um...ok who cares? If they don't like it they can leave their citizenship at the door. I was at one of those teaparties and you saw all walks of life there. Republicans, Conservatives, Independents and even Democrats.

Nothing says freedom like deporting anyone who disagrees with you.

It's all a double standard. You can only praise Obama but if you so much as question him you're villianized, belittled, called a racist, a bigot and every name in the book. I thought this was America, not Nazi Germany or the Soviet Union.

How dare those liberals violate our freedom of speech by disagreeing with our arguments!

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Postby Maurepas » Tue Oct 13, 2009 8:29 pm

Soratsin wrote:Nothing says freedom like deporting anyone who disagrees with you.


Hey, if you dont like it, you can leave, :p

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Postby Lackadaisical2 » Tue Oct 13, 2009 8:32 pm

Maurepas wrote:
Soratsin wrote:Nothing says freedom like deporting anyone who disagrees with you.


Hey, if you dont like it, you can leave, :p


:bow:

seriously though, does anyone think gay rights will be a national issue, as in, a proposed amendment to the constitution anytime soon?

EDIT: yay, I'm not an envoy any more.
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Postby Maurepas » Tue Oct 13, 2009 8:36 pm

Lackadaisical2 wrote:
Maurepas wrote:
Soratsin wrote:Nothing says freedom like deporting anyone who disagrees with you.


Hey, if you dont like it, you can leave, :p


:bow:

seriously though, does anyone think gay rights will be a national issue, as in, a proposed amendment to the constitution anytime soon?

EDIT: yay, I'm not an envoy any more.

Probably not, I would actually say that it is already protected by the Constitution, we just need a judge that is willing to spend the political capital to share in that opinion...

And Im still saddened that it actually works that way...

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Postby Katganistan » Tue Oct 13, 2009 8:40 pm

Post-Unity Terra wrote:
The Norse Hordes wrote:http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/la-na-gays-rally12-2009oct12,0,6043274.story

About as many people showed up to this rally as there were at those teabagging rallies...erm, sorry, 'teaparties'.

Im suprised, since so many consertatives on here were all about the tea parties because they were about keeping FREEDOM!!!!, but they didnt mention anything about an equally as large march on the capitol in favor of actual freedom.


Didn't you get the memo? Freedom means pissing off the democratic party and nothing more.

[sarcasm]You mean gays and those who support them are PEOPLE? [/sarcasm]

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Postby Lackadaisical2 » Tue Oct 13, 2009 8:40 pm

Maurepas wrote:
Lackadaisical2 wrote:
Maurepas wrote:
Soratsin wrote:Nothing says freedom like deporting anyone who disagrees with you.


Hey, if you dont like it, you can leave, :p


:bow:

seriously though, does anyone think gay rights will be a national issue, as in, a proposed amendment to the constitution anytime soon?

EDIT: yay, I'm not an envoy any more.

Probably not, I would actually say that it is already protected by the Constitution, we just need a judge that is willing to spend the political capital to share in that opinion...

And Im still saddened that it actually works that way...


Yes, so were blacks and women, ostensibly, but it took a couple amendments to make it happen, and I think it will be the same way with gays as it was with them.
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Postby Maurepas » Tue Oct 13, 2009 8:41 pm

Katganistan wrote:
Post-Unity Terra wrote:
The Norse Hordes wrote:http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/la-na-gays-rally12-2009oct12,0,6043274.story

About as many people showed up to this rally as there were at those teabagging rallies...erm, sorry, 'teaparties'.

Im suprised, since so many consertatives on here were all about the tea parties because they were about keeping FREEDOM!!!!, but they didnt mention anything about an equally as large march on the capitol in favor of actual freedom.


Didn't you get the memo? Freedom means pissing off the democratic party and nothing more.

[sarcasm]You mean gays and those who support them are PEOPLE? [/sarcasm]

If you mean souless bastards that are going to hell...yes, :p


jk,dont kill me, lol

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Postby Katganistan » Tue Oct 13, 2009 8:42 pm

Khadore wrote:It's all a double standard. You can only praise Bush but if you so much as question him you're villianized, belittled, called a racist, a traitor, unAmerican and every name in the book. I thought this was America, not Nazi Germany or the Soviet Union.


I dunno, it looks a lot like a standard, no double about it.
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Postby Lackadaisical2 » Tue Oct 13, 2009 8:42 pm

Katganistan wrote:
Post-Unity Terra wrote:
The Norse Hordes wrote:http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/la-na-gays-rally12-2009oct12,0,6043274.story

About as many people showed up to this rally as there were at those teabagging rallies...erm, sorry, 'teaparties'.

Im suprised, since so many consertatives on here were all about the tea parties because they were about keeping FREEDOM!!!!, but they didnt mention anything about an equally as large march on the capitol in favor of actual freedom.


Didn't you get the memo? Freedom means pissing off the democratic party and nothing more.

[sarcasm]You mean gays and those who support them are PEOPLE? [/sarcasm]


please kat, don't ask stupid questions, of course they're not people. Only Americans are people, and they're certainly not real Americans.
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Postby Maurepas » Tue Oct 13, 2009 8:44 pm

Lackadaisical2 wrote:
Maurepas wrote:
Lackadaisical2 wrote:
Maurepas wrote:
Soratsin wrote:Nothing says freedom like deporting anyone who disagrees with you.


Hey, if you dont like it, you can leave, :p


:bow:

seriously though, does anyone think gay rights will be a national issue, as in, a proposed amendment to the constitution anytime soon?

EDIT: yay, I'm not an envoy any more.

Probably not, I would actually say that it is already protected by the Constitution, we just need a judge that is willing to spend the political capital to share in that opinion...

And Im still saddened that it actually works that way...


Yes, so were blacks and women, ostensibly, but it took a couple amendments to make it happen, and I think it will be the same way with gays as it was with them.

True, but, its precisely those Amendments that I think would extend protection to them...Beyond that, the process of getting an amendment is alot more difficult than simply taking it to the Supreme Court, I mean, look at Prop 8, :?

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Postby Lackadaisical2 » Tue Oct 13, 2009 8:46 pm

Maurepas wrote:
Lackadaisical2 wrote:
Maurepas wrote:
Lackadaisical2 wrote:
Maurepas wrote:
Soratsin wrote:Nothing says freedom like deporting anyone who disagrees with you.


Hey, if you dont like it, you can leave, :p


:bow:

seriously though, does anyone think gay rights will be a national issue, as in, a proposed amendment to the constitution anytime soon?

EDIT: yay, I'm not an envoy any more.

Probably not, I would actually say that it is already protected by the Constitution, we just need a judge that is willing to spend the political capital to share in that opinion...

And Im still saddened that it actually works that way...


Yes, so were blacks and women, ostensibly, but it took a couple amendments to make it happen, and I think it will be the same way with gays as it was with them.

True, but, its precisely those Amendments that I think would extend protection to them...Beyond that, the process of getting an amendment is alot more difficult than simply taking it to the Supreme Court, I mean, look at Prop 8, :?


last time I checked, prop 8 was supported by the Cali supreme court (rightfully so), and hasn't managed to make its way to the US supreme court, so I can see it taking just about as long as an amendment might.
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Postby Soratsin » Tue Oct 13, 2009 8:49 pm

Maurepas wrote:
Soratsin wrote:Nothing says freedom like deporting anyone who disagrees with you.


Hey, if you dont like it, you can leave, :p


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Postby Maurepas » Tue Oct 13, 2009 8:50 pm

Lackadaisical2 wrote:
Maurepas wrote:True, but, its precisely those Amendments that I think would extend protection to them...Beyond that, the process of getting an amendment is alot more difficult than simply taking it to the Supreme Court, I mean, look at Prop 8, :?


last time I checked, prop 8 was supported by the Cali supreme court (rightfully so), and hasn't managed to make its way to the US supreme court, so I can see it taking just about as long as an amendment might.

Well, what I was referring to with Prop 8 is the difficulty getting majority support, which would be required for an Amendment I believe...

But, youre right it would take awhile to get it there as well...For the life of me I dont understand why, :?

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