Is USA the Greatest nation in the World???

[Death Metal]

We are the fattest nation in the world, and we will sit on anyone who dares say otherwise.

I'm not going to get involved in this God-forsaken hellhole of a topic, but I will say that this is wrong. The United States is not the 'fattest' nation in the world - nations exist with more than double its obesity rate.

What about in total population as opposed to per capita?

[Arumdaum]

You realize that they're outliers, right?

Your point being? If others can make it so should you. I never stated it should be easy for someone to make it, or common for someone to succeed despite a difficult situation, I stated it should be and is possible.

Except that you're faced with let's say.. 4257289470982576298576 handicaps?

Whether it's possible or not is irrelevant.

[Arumdaum]

We are the fattest nation in the world, and we will sit on anyone who dares say otherwise.

I'm not going to get involved in this God-forsaken hellhole of a topic, but I will say that this is wrong. The United States is not the 'fattest' nation in the world - nations exist with more than double its obesity rate.

I'm pretty sure it was just a joke.

But aren't we the fattest developed country in the world?

[Varijnland]

Bullshit, i'm a British citizen and damn proud

Yes, and?

So, he/she is wrong. Is there a problem with that? I'd love to hear it.

[Zaras]

Yes, and?

So, he/she is wrong. Is there a problem with that? I'd love to hear it.

I never really got that point of view, honestly. Why're you proud of being British?

[Great Nepal]

Of course, it is...

[Yankee Empire]

Is that done per capita, probably not.

And isn't it interesting that with all those issues we still managed to be a world Superpower, that must because that list totally omits that data in other more repressive nations may be manipulated and that it doesn't point out all of Americas virtues, but hey you know unfair bias against the U.S. is nothing new...

[Varijnland]

So, he/she is wrong. Is there a problem with that? I'd love to hear it.

I never really got that point of view, honestly. Why're you proud of being British?

I'm proud of the people I now live with, they are good people, i'm proud of being in a country where good standards of loyalty and passion are upheld, I like the fact that they helped the world to develop and flourish and I am proud. You don't have to get my point of view, just know that I have it and know that no one can change it.

[Saru]

As an American citizen, I am willing to admit, we are home to some of the most idiotic, self centered, hypocritical and self conceited people on the planet. We were once great in our own right, but those days have long past us. What you see are religious nutjobs, rapists, murderers, greedy politicians and corporate entities. I am ashamed to call myself an American, because first and foremost, I am not an idiot like the average American. And if any American nutjob nationalists want to call me unpatriotic just because I speak the truth, well, if being patriotic means being 1.) idiotic, 2.) passively accepting all the propaganda the Gov't shoves down your throat, then I am glad to be label un-patriotic

[Zaras]

i'm proud of being in a country where good standards of loyalty

Not necessarily a good thing.

and passion are upheld

This the same Stiff Upper Lip UK we're talking about? I lol'd.

You don't have to get my point of view, just know that I have it and know that no one can change it.

I never bother trying to change people's points of view. It doesn't happen.

[Tubbsalot]

greedy politicians and corporate entities ... I am not [...] like the average American. ... I speak the truth ... passively accepting all the propaganda the Gov't shoves down your throat ...

Whoops, how did I get to timecube?

[Great Nepal]

There's much more to it than simply that. Teachers aren't always available,

You chase them down. Thats why they are damn paid to do. If you need help, cut the lunch and ask the teacher to do so. Most of the times, they do.

and libraries aren't always accessible.

Dunno how far libraries are in US but around here, they are at half an hour walk at most.

Tutors are an additional asset, and can help people study. The poor lack that asset.

I just finished GCSE (yr 11), never went to tutors or after-school academies or Saturday school and somehow magically got quite good grades.

after-school academies or Saturday schoolAnd that reminds me; the rich can afford to buy books; the poor can only borrow them temporarily. Many schools, being poorly funded, don't allow students to take home their textbooks, or use online textbooks. Not to forget how painful it would be to bring textbooks back home every single day.[/quote]
Borrow it and photocopy it; most schools should do that for free. Even if they dont, photocopy shouldn't cost more than 4 pence per page.

You do realize that the quality of schools is generally an important factor in how people score, right?...

Not the most important one.

Clearly, you have never met the the Asian-American community. ;_;

Asian here... and see above.

No. I'm talking about things such as SAT help books, books which help you on AP subjects, etc.

Solution: Go to library, borrow the help book and photocopy it. Or, go to Amazon: it lets you see inside most books online for free.

Very relevant. Friends can either help or hinder your education, and can help you with homework, studying, etc.

No.
Friends are only competition: and if your friends are in crap situation as well, that's a bonus. Less competition in the future.

What is it that you gotta do? Nothing? Just be all "Wa wa wa, my parents are poor so I'm doomed to failure"?

Cool, thats a concious and free choice an individual makes.

Except that many students cannot pay back student loans, especially poor people.

Depends on the degree you do. Get a high-demand degree, and then a good carrier.
Then, pay back the loan.

[Yankee Empire]

As an American citizen, I am willing to admit, we are home to some of the most idiotic, self centered, hypocritical and self conceited people on the planet. We were once great in our own right, but those days have long past us. What you see are religious nutjobs, rapists, murderers, greedy politicians and corporate entities. I am ashamed to call myself an American, because first and foremost, I am not an idiot like the average American. And if any American nutjob nationalists want to call me unpatriotic just because I speak the truth, well, if being patriotic means being 1.) idiotic, 2.) passively accepting all the propaganda the Gov't shoves down your throat, then I am glad to be label un-patriotic

So if people disagree with your self demeaning view of you nation their an idiot, thats not hypocritical at all...

[Tubbsalot]

So if peopel disagree with your self demeaning view of you nation their an idiot, thats not hypocritical at all...

No. No, it isn't. Your post is entirely true things.

In stark contrast to your previous post, I should add.

[Varijnland]

-double post deleated-

[Varijnland]

i'm proud of being in a country where good standards of loyalty

Not necessarily a good thing.

and passion are upheld

This the same Stiff Upper Lip UK we're talking about? I lol'd.

Yes, I suppose it is, passion pure and simple. We get on with things, we don't whine or moan.

You don't have to get my point of view, just know that I have it and know that no one can change it.

I never bother trying to change people's points of view. It doesn't happen.

Good, because you would fail. Misserably

edit: I Ballsed up the quotes but I trust you are intelligent to know what you did/did not write.

[North California]

Nope, it's actually a good point. The USA'd be better if it didn't have the South to drag along.

No. This is one of the few things people say on here that legitimately pisses me off.
It'd hardly have the right to call itself the USA anymore if the country kicked us out, since the South includes 5 of the original 13 states, not counting those states formed out of other states that were founding members of the Union.
Also, Washington would never go for it, considering where the Mason-Dixon line is.

Not to mention that his comment was very offensive.

[SanctusEmpire]

I say

Its a little early to make this assumption just yet.

I would say Rome but that was more a State becoming an Empire spanning around "500'' years and they did it on their own terms

China dates back as far as 2000BC and the USA owes them over $1 trillion in debt

It pains me to say, but in my opinion England is the greatest nation on earth. Markers 1 and 2.

1.The USA speaks English along with approx another 950 million other people. (1100 people speak Chinese) and,

2. English law is the basis of American law

These are just 2 reasons to suggest that the USA is NOT the greatest nation in the world but there are many many others. Dont get me wrong though, The US is definantely a huge and predominant influence on the world at the moment but that is wanning due to the widespread economic recession you greedy mongrels started. Big boy on the block? Yes Greatest nation in the world? Give it at least another 500 years

[The Anglo Saxons]

It pains me to say, but in my opinion England is the greatest nation on earth

Yes. Yes it is.

[SanctusEmpire]

It pains me to say, but in my opinion England is the greatest nation on earth

Yes. Yes it is.

Next prime minister will be a Paki mate

[SanctusEmpire]

As an American citizen, I am willing to admit, we are home to some of the most idiotic, self centered, hypocritical and self conceited people on the planet. We were once great in our own right, but those days have long past us. What you see are religious nutjobs, rapists, murderers, greedy politicians and corporate entities. I am ashamed to call myself an American, because first and foremost, I am not an idiot like the average American. And if any American nutjob nationalists want to call me unpatriotic just because I speak the truth, well, if being patriotic means being 1.) idiotic, 2.) passively accepting all the propaganda the Gov't shoves down your throat, then I am glad to be label un-patriotic

So if people disagree with your self demeaning view of you nation their an idiot, thats not hypocritical at all...

Saru sounds like a true patriot. You sound like an idiot

[The Anglo Saxons]

Yes. Yes it is.

Next prime minister will be a Paki mate

Woah woah woah, hold on, "paki" is now a derogatory term, don't use it unless you actualy mean Pakistani, in which case, say Pakistani.

[Zaras]

Yes. Yes it is.

Next prime minister will be a Paki mate

Dude, don't be a racist. You can't call people "Paki", that's extremely offensive.

[North California]

Next prime minister will be a Paki mate

Dude, don't be a racist. You can't call people "Paki", that's extremely offensive.

Like your post about the South?

[North California]

I say

Its a little early to make this assumption just yet.

I would say Rome but that was more a State becoming an Empire spanning around "500'' years and they did it on their own terms

China dates back as far as 2000BC and the USA owes them over $1 trillion in debt

It pains me to say, but in my opinion England is the greatest nation on earth. Markers 1 and 2.

1.The USA speaks English along with approx another 950 million other people. (1100 people speak Chinese) and,

2. English law is the basis of American law

These are just 2 reasons to suggest that the USA is NOT the greatest nation in the world but there are many many others. Dont get me wrong though, The US is definantely a huge and predominant influence on the world at the moment but that is wanning due to the widespread economic recession you greedy mongrels started. Big boy on the block? Yes Greatest nation in the world? Give it at least another 500 years

I didn't know that raping India, Africa, and the Irish made you great...