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Postby Zaras » Sun Oct 14, 2012 6:37 pm

The Anglo-Saxon Empire wrote:
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Yeah, it's such a great country when you can't even fucking take care of your own citizens like Canadians or Europeans. :roll:

Why would we want to?


Because it's disgusting and immoral to not look after your citizens. You're the most powerful state in the world and you can't give a shit about your own citizens?
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Postby Sovietta » Sun Oct 14, 2012 6:37 pm

No. I live in the US and it's not the greatest and it's definately not a democracy.
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Postby Death Metal » Sun Oct 14, 2012 6:38 pm

Sovietta wrote: and it's definately not a democracy.


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Postby The Anglo-Saxon Empire » Sun Oct 14, 2012 6:38 pm

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The Anglo-Saxon Empire wrote:Why would we want to? You should take care of yourself.

Incredibly subjective, and taking care of yourself =/= not taking care of others.

Nothing I said was subjective at all. One was a question, which you can feel free to answer, the other is a fact. You should take care of yourself. For some people "taking care of yourself" only extends far enough to mean eating, for others it means the ability to fully support yourself, including purchasing your own healthcare.
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Postby North California » Sun Oct 14, 2012 6:39 pm

Zaras wrote:
The Anglo-Saxon Empire wrote:Why would we want to?


Because it's disgusting and immoral to not look after your citizens. You're the most powerful state in the world and you can't give a shit about your own citizens?


Canadians and Europeans are our citizens?
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Postby Zaras » Sun Oct 14, 2012 6:39 pm

The Anglo-Saxon Empire wrote:
Arumdaum wrote:Incredibly subjective, and taking care of yourself =/= not taking care of others.

Nothing I said was subjective at all. One was a question, which you can feel free to answer, the other is a fact. You should take care of yourself. For some people "taking care of yourself" only extends far enough to mean eating, for others it means the ability to fully support yourself, including purchasing your own healthcare.


:roll:

Urgh, are you Hippostania or something?
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Zaras wrote:Democratic People's Republic of Glorious Misty Mountain Hop.
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Postby Zaras » Sun Oct 14, 2012 6:40 pm

North California wrote:
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Because it's disgusting and immoral to not look after your citizens. You're the most powerful state in the world and you can't give a shit about your own citizens?


Canadians and Europeans are our citizens?


No, but they give more of a shit about their own than you.
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Zaras wrote:Democratic People's Republic of Glorious Misty Mountain Hop.
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Postby The Anglo-Saxon Empire » Sun Oct 14, 2012 6:40 pm

Zaras wrote:
The Anglo-Saxon Empire wrote:Why would we want to?


Because it's disgusting and immoral to not look after your citizens. You're the most powerful state in the world and you can't give a shit about your own citizens?

I think it is disgusting and immoral to expect other people to go out of their way to help you. You don't deserve anything IMO. I do not want to help you simply because you grace the world with your presence (which in many cases means doing nothing except mooching off the government). Also, anyone who things the US government could run a full fledged national health care system has obviously never lived in the US.
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Postby Sovietta » Sun Oct 14, 2012 6:41 pm

Death Metal wrote:
Sovietta wrote: and it's definately not a democracy.


:roll:

Believe what you want, but it's not a democracy.

They literally give voters no rights. They give the rights to these weird electoral colleges and that is like rigging elections.
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Postby The Anglo-Saxon Empire » Sun Oct 14, 2012 6:41 pm

Zaras wrote:
The Anglo-Saxon Empire wrote:Nothing I said was subjective at all. One was a question, which you can feel free to answer, the other is a fact. You should take care of yourself. For some people "taking care of yourself" only extends far enough to mean eating, for others it means the ability to fully support yourself, including purchasing your own healthcare.


:roll:

Urgh, are you Hippostania or something?

No, I simply hate the idea of providing people with something that they should provide themselves.
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Postby Yankee Empire » Sun Oct 14, 2012 6:41 pm

Zaras wrote:
North California wrote:
Canadians and Europeans are our citizens?


No, but they give more of a shit about their own than you.


Change takes time, and again the douchbaggery is rising, unless you are being sarcastic again.
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Postby Zaras » Sun Oct 14, 2012 6:42 pm

The Anglo-Saxon Empire wrote:
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Because it's disgusting and immoral to not look after your citizens. You're the most powerful state in the world and you can't give a shit about your own citizens?

I think it is disgusting and immoral to expect other people to go out of their way to help you.


I think it's disgusting and immoral to think like a Randroid.

You don't deserve anything IMO. I do not want to help you simply because you grace the world with your presence (which in many cases means doing nothing except mooching off the government).


So, you're a Republican.

Also, anyone who things the US government could run a full fledged national health care system has obviously never lived in the US.


If Johnson could run the Great fucking Society, how come healthcare's too much?

Seriously, the Netherlands can actually accomplish feats of engineering that make New Orleans look like a piss-hole. Why can't you?
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Zaras wrote:Democratic People's Republic of Glorious Misty Mountain Hop.
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Postby Zaras » Sun Oct 14, 2012 6:43 pm

The Anglo-Saxon Empire wrote:
Zaras wrote:
:roll:

Urgh, are you Hippostania or something?

No, I simply hate the idea of providing people with something that they should provide themselves.


And I hate the bootstraps-pulling, self-made-person POV. It's based on denying huge chunks of reality.
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Zaras wrote:Democratic People's Republic of Glorious Misty Mountain Hop.
The bat in the middle commemmorates their crushing victory in the bloody Battle of Evermore, where the Communists were saved at the last minute by General "Black Dog" Bonham of the Rock 'n Roll Brigade detonating a levee armed with only four sticks and flooding the enemy encampment. He later retired with honours and went to live in California for the rest of his life before ascending to heaven.

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Postby Arumdaum » Sun Oct 14, 2012 6:43 pm

The Anglo-Saxon Empire wrote:
Arumdaum wrote:Incredibly subjective, and taking care of yourself =/= not taking care of others.

Nothing I said was subjective at all. One was a question, which you can feel free to answer, the other is a fact. You should take care of yourself. For some people "taking care of yourself" only extends far enough to mean eating, for others it means the ability to fully support yourself, including purchasing your own healthcare.

There's a variety of reasons why the US might want to take care of its citizens, but they're all subjective. Actually, it was very subjective. Whether people should take care of themselves is an opinion. Gahh just look up the words.
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Postby Zaras » Sun Oct 14, 2012 6:43 pm

Yankee Empire wrote:
Zaras wrote:
No, but they give more of a shit about their own than you.


Change takes time, and again the douchbaggery is rising, unless you are being sarcastic again.


You should be more offended by the fact that America sucks more at taking care of its citizens than even Canada than the way I phrased it.
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Zaras wrote:Democratic People's Republic of Glorious Misty Mountain Hop.
The bat in the middle commemmorates their crushing victory in the bloody Battle of Evermore, where the Communists were saved at the last minute by General "Black Dog" Bonham of the Rock 'n Roll Brigade detonating a levee armed with only four sticks and flooding the enemy encampment. He later retired with honours and went to live in California for the rest of his life before ascending to heaven.

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Postby Arumdaum » Sun Oct 14, 2012 6:44 pm

The Anglo-Saxon Empire wrote:
Zaras wrote:
:roll:

Urgh, are you Hippostania or something?

No, I simply hate the idea of providing people with something that they should provide themselves.

And what if they lack the means to provide themselves with it?
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Postby Communal Ecotopia » Sun Oct 14, 2012 6:45 pm

Zaras wrote:No.

Statistically, Norway should be.

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But I don't see Norwegians going around waving their dicks in people's faces about how fucking awesome Norway is. Or Canadians, Swedes...


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Postby North California » Sun Oct 14, 2012 6:45 pm

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Canadians and Europeans are our citizens?


No, but they give more of a shit about their own than you.


Back off punk. I never said anything bad. You said that Canadians and Europeans were American citizens. What does that half do with me apparently "not giving a shit" about my fellow countrymen?
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Postby Zaras » Sun Oct 14, 2012 6:45 pm

Arumdaum wrote:
The Anglo-Saxon Empire wrote:No, I simply hate the idea of providing people with something that they should provide themselves.

And what if they lack the means to provide themselves with it?


Lemme guess: we're gonna get a whiny lecture about how they should pull 'emselves up by their bootstraps and shit, delievered by a guy who doesn't realise just how much he has the government to thank for.
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Zaras wrote:Democratic People's Republic of Glorious Misty Mountain Hop.
The bat in the middle commemmorates their crushing victory in the bloody Battle of Evermore, where the Communists were saved at the last minute by General "Black Dog" Bonham of the Rock 'n Roll Brigade detonating a levee armed with only four sticks and flooding the enemy encampment. He later retired with honours and went to live in California for the rest of his life before ascending to heaven.

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Postby Odith » Sun Oct 14, 2012 6:46 pm

Nova Imperius wrote:This question irritates me. Many claim it is, others claim it isnt. Does being the lone superpower in the world make you the greatest or does it depend on the life of the inhabitants??? Many claim that the Scandanavian nations are the greatest due to the life of there citizens yet have little military or political strength. China, you could say, has the greatest economy and military in the world yet the citizens live in poor conditions in many cases and under a fairly strict regime. Do you think USA is the greatest nation in the world and if not which is?? Please give educated answers.


The United States is one of the youngest nations in the world. As such, it is very immature. Like many immature people, it boasts and brags and acts like a bully. I do like to think that it is maturing, but it will be a long process. It's just now taking its first bites of humble pie after binging on oil. I'd like to get a look at the United States one thousand years from now. What will it be like? Will it still exist as a Federal Republic? I don't think so.

What is the greatest nation in the world? I'll answer with another question: why is that a valid question?
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Postby Arumdaum » Sun Oct 14, 2012 6:46 pm

North California wrote:
Zaras wrote:
Because it's disgusting and immoral to not look after your citizens. You're the most powerful state in the world and you can't give a shit about your own citizens?


Canadians and Europeans are our citizens?

He was talking about American citizens, obv.
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Postby Zaras » Sun Oct 14, 2012 6:46 pm

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No, but they give more of a shit about their own than you.


Back off punk. I never said anything bad. You said that Canadians and Europeans were American citizens.


No, dude. I said Canada and Europe take care of their citizens better than America.
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Zaras wrote:Democratic People's Republic of Glorious Misty Mountain Hop.
The bat in the middle commemmorates their crushing victory in the bloody Battle of Evermore, where the Communists were saved at the last minute by General "Black Dog" Bonham of the Rock 'n Roll Brigade detonating a levee armed with only four sticks and flooding the enemy encampment. He later retired with honours and went to live in California for the rest of his life before ascending to heaven.

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Postby Arumdaum » Sun Oct 14, 2012 6:46 pm

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Nova Imperius wrote:This question irritates me. Many claim it is, others claim it isnt. Does being the lone superpower in the world make you the greatest or does it depend on the life of the inhabitants??? Many claim that the Scandanavian nations are the greatest due to the life of there citizens yet have little military or political strength. China, you could say, has the greatest economy and military in the world yet the citizens live in poor conditions in many cases and under a fairly strict regime. Do you think USA is the greatest nation in the world and if not which is?? Please give educated answers.


The United States is one of the youngest nations in the world. As such, it is very immature. Like many immature people, it boasts and brags and acts like a bully. I do like to think that it is maturing, but it will be a long process. It's just now taking its first bites of humble pie after binging on oil. I'd like to get a look at the United States one thousand years from now. What will it be like? Will it still exist as a Federal Republic? I don't think so.

What is the greatest nation in the world? I'll answer with another question: why is that a valid question?

I don't think nation age is really relevant.
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Postby The Anglo-Saxon Empire » Sun Oct 14, 2012 6:48 pm

Zaras wrote:I think it's disgusting and immoral to think like a Randroid.

Whatever. I for one don't like people benefiting from my work. I don't care if some random guy in California gets healthcare.

So, you're a Republican.

Don't see how that is directly related, but yes.

If Johnson could run the Great fucking Society, how come healthcare's too much?

The Great Society was nothing like a national healthcare system. A national healthcare system is going to end up more like Social Security or the Post office, both of which are terrible programs whether you see them as important or not.

Seriously, the Netherlands can actually accomplish feats of engineering that make New Orleans look like a piss-hole. Why can't you?

New Orleans is a piss hole, everyone knows that.
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Postby The Anglo-Saxon Empire » Sun Oct 14, 2012 6:49 pm

Arumdaum wrote:
The Anglo-Saxon Empire wrote:No, I simply hate the idea of providing people with something that they should provide themselves.

And what if they lack the means to provide themselves with it?

Then they obviously deserve their situation because they fucked up somewhere.
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