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Less and Less religious

PostPosted: Sat Oct 13, 2012 11:03 am
by Catan
http://www.pewforum.org/Unaffiliated/no ... n=PPFooter More and more people have no religious affiliation at all. As an agnostic, I find this to be good news, that people are moving away from Dogma. So NSG, what I want to ask is this: have you ever doubted the existence of god, and if so what caused you to doubt it? If you have never doubted it, why not?

PostPosted: Sat Oct 13, 2012 11:04 am
by Divair
Catan wrote: As an agnostic

Agnostic atheist or agnostic theist?

PostPosted: Sat Oct 13, 2012 11:05 am
by Svalbar
it is just about logic

PostPosted: Sat Oct 13, 2012 11:07 am
by Sapiens Isles
Svalbar wrote:it is just about logic

This.

PostPosted: Sat Oct 13, 2012 11:07 am
by Blazedtown
The first time I realized God isn't real was when he told me he didn't exist. True story bro.

PostPosted: Sat Oct 13, 2012 11:07 am
by Ifreann
I don't see what's so good about the number of theists dropping. There's nothing wrong with theism, in and of itself.

PostPosted: Sat Oct 13, 2012 11:08 am
by Sailsia
Blazedtown wrote:The first time I realized God isn't real was when he told me he didn't exist. True story bro.

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PostPosted: Sat Oct 13, 2012 11:08 am
by Sailsia
Ifreann wrote:I don't see what's so good about the number of theists dropping. There's nothing wrong with theism, in and of itself.

I beg to differ, unfortunately.

PostPosted: Sat Oct 13, 2012 11:08 am
by Southern Patriots
Blazedtown wrote:The first time I realized God isn't real was when he told me he didn't exist. True story bro.

He told me he was a Mormon, but open to new experiences.

PostPosted: Sat Oct 13, 2012 11:09 am
by EnragedMaldivians
Catan wrote:http://www.pewforum.org/Unaffiliated/nones-on-the-rise.aspx#utm_source=footer&utm_medium=internal&utm_campaign=PPFooter More and more people have no religious affiliation at all. As an agnostic, I find this to be good news, that people are moving away from Dogma. So NSG, what I want to ask is this: have you ever doubted the existence of god, and if so what caused you to doubt it? If you have never doubted it, why not?


Atheist here.

I always think such declarations are premature; it could be a transient rather than a permanent trend. These fluctuations have happened elsehwere in the world.

Which brings me to my second objection: your poll pertains to people in The United States of America, whereas your title and OP seem to indicate that this is a more general phenomenon. America is not the whole world.

PostPosted: Sat Oct 13, 2012 11:09 am
by Ifreann
Sailsia wrote:
Ifreann wrote:I don't see what's so good about the number of theists dropping. There's nothing wrong with theism, in and of itself.

I beg to differ, unfortunately.

Go on.

PostPosted: Sat Oct 13, 2012 11:09 am
by Northwest Slobovia
Divair wrote:
Catan wrote: As an agnostic

Agnostic atheist or agnostic theist?

I'm also agnostic about pigeonholes. ;)

PostPosted: Sat Oct 13, 2012 11:09 am
by Nightkill the Emperor
EnragedMaldivians wrote:America is not the whole world.

Lies.

PostPosted: Sat Oct 13, 2012 11:10 am
by The Ottoman Imperial Union
I, honestly, am pretty happy.

In my opinion, having a religion is like having a gun; it's ok to have one, and it's ok to be proud of it. But don't take it out in public and wave it about, and please don't shove it down children's throats.

PostPosted: Sat Oct 13, 2012 11:10 am
by Mushet
Catan wrote:http://www.pewforum.org/Unaffiliated/nones-on-the-rise.aspx#utm_source=footer&utm_medium=internal&utm_campaign=PPFooter More and more people have no religious affiliation at all. As an agnostic, I find this to be good news, that people are moving away from Dogma. So NSG, what I want to ask is this: have you ever doubted the existence of god, and if so what caused you to doubt it? If you have never doubted it, why not?

Some atheists can be quite dogmatic

PostPosted: Sat Oct 13, 2012 11:11 am
by Maltropia
Nightkill the Emperor wrote:
EnragedMaldivians wrote:America is not the whole world.

Lies.

Truth.


We all know India is the whole world.

PostPosted: Sat Oct 13, 2012 11:11 am
by Nightkill the Emperor
Maltropia wrote:
Nightkill the Emperor wrote:Lies.

Truth.


We all know India is the whole world.

Precisely.

PostPosted: Sat Oct 13, 2012 11:12 am
by Catan
I am an not an agnostic atheist or agnostic theist. Just plain agnostic as in I don't know and don't lean one way or the other.

PostPosted: Sat Oct 13, 2012 11:13 am
by Divair
Catan wrote:I am an not an agnostic atheist or agnostic theist. Just plain agnostic as in I don't know and don't lean one way or the other.

There's no 'plain agnostic'. You either believe in a deity or you do not.

PostPosted: Sat Oct 13, 2012 11:13 am
by Blazedtown
EnragedMaldivians wrote:
Catan wrote:http://www.pewforum.org/Unaffiliated/nones-on-the-rise.aspx#utm_source=footer&utm_medium=internal&utm_campaign=PPFooter More and more people have no religious affiliation at all. As an agnostic, I find this to be good news, that people are moving away from Dogma. So NSG, what I want to ask is this: have you ever doubted the existence of god, and if so what caused you to doubt it? If you have never doubted it, why not?


Atheist here.

I always think such declarations are premature; it could be a transient rather than a permanent trend. These fluctuations have happened elsehwere in the world.

Which brings me to my second objection: your poll pertains to people in The United States of America, whereas your title and OP seem to indicate that this is a more general phenomenon. America is not the whole world.


Quit picking imagined slights.

PostPosted: Sat Oct 13, 2012 11:15 am
by Horsefish
Ifreann wrote:I don't see what's so good about the number of theists dropping. There's nothing wrong with theism, in and of itself.


This.

PostPosted: Sat Oct 13, 2012 11:15 am
by Catan
Divair wrote:
Catan wrote:I am an not an agnostic atheist or agnostic theist. Just plain agnostic as in I don't know and don't lean one way or the other.

There's no 'plain agnostic'. You either believe in a deity or you do not.


yes there is. As in, I neither believe or disbelieve. but, looking back in history and seeing all the atrocities committed in the name of organized religion, I am skeptical of any priest, preacher, dogma, or anyone who claims to know the unknowable.

PostPosted: Sat Oct 13, 2012 11:15 am
by Divair
Catan wrote:
Divair wrote:There's no 'plain agnostic'. You either believe in a deity or you do not.


yes there is. As in, I neither believe or disbelieve. but, looking back in history and seeing all the atrocities committed in the name of organized religion, I am skeptical of any priest, preacher, dogma, or anyone who claims to know the unknowable.

Do you believe in a god?

PostPosted: Sat Oct 13, 2012 11:17 am
by The Nuclear Fist
Good.

PostPosted: Sat Oct 13, 2012 11:18 am
by EnragedMaldivians
Blazedtown wrote:
EnragedMaldivians wrote:
Atheist here.

I always think such declarations are premature; it could be a transient rather than a permanent trend. These fluctuations have happened elsehwere in the world.

Which brings me to my second objection: your poll pertains to people in The United States of America, whereas your title and OP seem to indicate that this is a more general phenomenon. America is not the whole world.


Quit picking imagined slights.


Yeah, I'm actually quite pro-American.

Sorry if I think the OP should have been more specific in indicating which country he was actually talking about.

Physicians. Wounds. Pots. Kettles. etc.