Assassination of politicians: Would it be moral?

[Abatael]

I'm a Republican conservative. Mitt Romney and I share most of the same views on a lot of things.

I personally think that abortion is murder, denying the individual to grow up and live in the pursuit of happiness. It should also be up to the father of the child, seeing that he himself could raise the infant. He must have a say in the going on.

I've seen people get charged with murder by killing their infant, and I ask, what is so different from abortion?

Also, same sex marriage is morally wrong. It's just not right. There is something obviously wrong with your head, if you find the same gender attractive beyond reasoning.

Murder is abortion. Gay rights are wrong.

I think you have submitted this under the wrong topic.

[Old Geneva]

I'm a Republican conservative. Mitt Romney and I share most of the same views on a lot of things.

I personally think that abortion is murder, denying the individual to grow up and live in the pursuit of happiness. It should also be up to the father of the child, seeing that he himself could raise the infant. He must have a say in the going on.

I've seen people get charged with murder by killing their infant, and I ask, what is so different from abortion?

Also, same sex marriage is morally wrong. It's just not right. There is something obviously wrong with your head, if you find the same gender attractive beyond reasoning.

Murder is abortion. Gay rights are wrong.

I think you have submitted this under the wrong topic.

No. I was replying to the opening statement.

[The Land Fomerly Known as Ligerplace]

I'm a Republican conservative. Mitt Romney and I share most of the same views on a lot of things.

I personally think that abortion is murder, denying the individual to grow up and live in the pursuit of happiness. It should also be up to the father of the child, seeing that he himself could raise the infant. He must have a say in the going on.

I've seen people get charged with murder by killing their infant, and I ask, what is so different from abortion?

Also, same sex marriage is morally wrong. It's just not right. There is something obviously wrong with your head, if you find the same gender attractive beyond reasoning.

Murder is abortion. Gay rights are wrong.

I think you have submitted this under the wrong topic.

Wait...Obama supports abortion

...abortion is murder...

...Obama is the leader...



Holy FUCK, HE WANTS TO KILL OBAMA!

MAN THE FUCKING LIFEBOATS!

[Xeng He]

You'll need to be more specific in what you mean by "wrongs the people under him."

As in, he doesn't take actions as a ruler that maximize the ability of those people to, ultimately, do/live as they wish.

This doesn't mean "if he restricts freedoms at all", mind you, there are certain freedoms that hamper the freedoms of others, or freedoms that don't allow for things like justice, which do come into play, but...if his/her actions don't fall in that line, really.

[The Land Fomerly Known as Ligerplace]

I'm a Republican conservative. Mitt Romney and I share most of the same views on a lot of things.

I personally think that abortion is murder, denying the individual to grow up and live in the pursuit of happiness. It should also be up to the father of the child, seeing that he himself could raise the infant. He must have a say in the going on.

I've seen people get charged with murder by killing their infant, and I ask, what is so different from abortion?

Also, same sex marriage is morally wrong. It's just not right. There is something obviously wrong with your head, if you find the same gender attractive beyond reasoning.

Murder is abortion. Gay rights are wrong.

To respond to the former, the difference lies in when a fetus objectively becomes an actual human person.

To respond to gay marriage, you gave no reason except for "just because". And in my personal view, the government should view ALL OF THAT stuff as far as marriage as legal contracts only, and shouldn't care about who does them in what combination, that includes polygamy and the like. Keep them out of your church, no one cares, but they have no logical and objective reason not to have the same legal rights as you as far as government recognized unions are concerned.

[Abatael]

You'll need to be more specific in what you mean by "wrongs the people under him."

As in, he doesn't take actions as a ruler that maximize the ability of those people to, ultimately, do/live as they wish.

This doesn't mean "if he restricts freedoms at all", mind you, there are certain freedoms that hamper the freedoms of others, or freedoms that don't allow for things like justice, which do come into play, but...if his/her actions don't fall in that line, really.

No.

[Xeng He]

No.

Now it's your turn to be more specific.

[Nova Nacio]

To respond to the former, the difference lies in when a fetus objectively becomes an actual human person.

To respond to gay marriage, you gave no reason except for "just because". And in my personal view, the government should view ALL OF THAT stuff as far as marriage as legal contracts only, and shouldn't care about who does them in what combination, that includes polygamy and the like. Keep them out of your church, no one cares, but they have no logical and objective reason not to have the same legal rights as you as far as government recognized unions are concerned.

Just another day of debunking American conservative BS in a nation that is secretly and increasingly getting tired of it... That's good to hear.

Well, as to respond to the OP, the 4th choice, seeing as I rather despise people who vote against things that could benefit them if allowed to exist in the long run instead of hoping things get done fast and with little productivity or positive impact on the society involved.

[Abatael]

No.

Now it's your turn to be more specific.

The example you gave is not as equally disgusting as assassinating the sovereign.

[Delvoir]

I'm a Republican conservative. Mitt Romney and I share most of the same views on a lot of things.

I personally think that abortion is murder, denying the individual to grow up and live in the pursuit of happiness. It should also be up to the father of the child, seeing that he himself could raise the infant. He must have a say in the going on.

I've seen people get charged with murder by killing their infant, and I ask, what is so different from abortion?

Also, same sex marriage is morally wrong. It's just not right. There is something obviously wrong with your head, if you find the same gender attractive beyond reasoning.

Murder is abortion. Gay rights are wrong.

To me, this is just purposely inflammatory. I don't even think any of that warrants a response other than the fact that those views are archaic and hopefully will be a thing of the past very soon.

[Xeng He]

Now it's your turn to be more specific.

The example you gave is not as equally disgusting as assassinating the sovereign.

I find it equally disgusting, personally, because in my own view a sovereign exists solely to prevent people from using their freedom to oppress others, and to prevent really one-sided agreements. To make sure that, where possible, freedom and justice reign by preventing worse individuals from coming to power.

Whereas you...think what?

[Abatael]

The example you gave is not as equally disgusting as assassinating the sovereign.

I find it equally disgusting, personally, because in my own view a sovereign exists solely to prevent people from using their freedom to oppress others, and to prevent really one-sided agreements. To make sure that, where possible, freedom and justice reign by preventing worse individuals from coming to power.

Whereas you...think what?

I think that it is the job of the sovereign to reign over his subjects, and his territory. I will not define their specific role the way you just did, because I believe that should be defined in the constitution of the state. Do you understand what I am saying?

[Xeng He]

I think that it is the job of the sovereign to reign over his subjects, and his territory. I will not define their specific role the way you just did, because I believe that should be defined in the constitution of the state. Do you understand what I am saying?

I do. I disagree, but unfortunately there are no internal inconsistancies therein...

...well, arguably, what exactly makes that contract any more legitimate than any other prospective ruler of the area's, but...

[Abatael]

I think that it is the job of the sovereign to reign over his subjects, and his territory. I will not define their specific role the way you just did, because I believe that should be defined in the constitution of the state. Do you understand what I am saying?

I do. I disagree, but unfortunately there are no internal inconsistancies therein...

...well, arguably, what exactly makes that contract any more legitimate than any other prospective ruler of the area's, but...

Is your question, "What makes a contract more legitimate than a person?"

[East Ormania]

If the leader of a said nation trampled on individual rights, resulting in tyranny, would it be morally right to kill such a leader?

Maybe, but only if he killed someone while in power

Would your opinion change based on whether he is a Dictator or democratically elected?

Not at all.

If a politician voted in favor of a bill that tramples on such rights, would you see it as morally right to kill him?

Same stuff on the first topic.

If Police and Military forces protected such persons and enforced such laws, would it be morally okay to kill them?

In any way, no. They were probably just following orders.

If a person supported such politicians and leaders, with the use of donations, organizing rallies, or expression of their support for such persons, would you think it morally right to place any sort of punishment on such a person?

Hell no! He wasn't responsible for that!

The killing of such individuals, in my opinion, is only justified if he killed someone while he holded power.
Aside from that, no no no no no.