Bullying can be good, especially "Anti-gay" bullying

[Yewhohohopia]

So instead of making you an emotionally crippled wreck, it made you insufferably cocksure?

Hurrah for bullying, or maybe not.

[Wisconsin9]

Maybe it actually did make you a stronger person. I don't know. What I do know is that as a result of the bullying I went through I am no longer able to form lasting relationships with other people. My grades have suffered. I now regularly get into fights with my parents, and I was briefly considering suicide. If it worked for you, fine. But if somebody on the street told me that I was better off having been bullied, I would beat them to death with my bare hands.

[Vettrera]

-Removed Personally-

[East Ormania]

So instead of making you an emotionally crippled wreck, it made you insufferably cocksure?

Hurrah for bullying, or maybe not.

I'd doubt that. But still, if he says so...

[Shadowlandistan]

Name calling/making fun is one thing, physically assaulting people is unacceptable.

[Madda]

Okay, I can deal with the fact that I've just been told that my personal opinion is wrong, which is in it self considered bullying. Cyberbullying, actually.

"You are wrong" is not bullying.

When I'm being told that a fact, such as the capital of the US is New York City, is wrong, then that isn't "bullying". But when I'm told that my ideals and my opinion, which is an "Opinion", is wrong, then maybe that is.

[Seperates]

Could easily be.

Whenever someone asks for a source from the 60's part of me thinks
"Thats a bit mean. It's like asking you to source a dream you once had"

I expect the neural imaging on my desk in the morning.

[Yewhohohopia]

So instead of making you an emotionally crippled wreck, it made you insufferably cocksure?

Hurrah for bullying, or maybe not.

I'd doubt that. But still, if he says so...

Nothing like becoming an Aarhus Hole to fight off Stockholm Syndrome.

[The Nuclear Fist]

But when I'm told that my ideals and my opinion, which is an "Opinion", is wrong, then maybe that is.

It isn't bullying, no. And actually, if its actually hurting you in a way to constitute bullying, you're proving everyone's point.

How's the view from the corner you've pushed yourself into, by the way?

[Seperates]

"You are wrong" is not bullying.

When I'm being told that a fact, such as the capital of the US is New York City, is wrong, then that isn't "bullying". But when I'm told that my ideals and my opinion, which is an "Opinion", is wrong, then maybe that is.

You tried to state a fact.
We asked for a source to that fact.
You refused, giving us random acedotes instead.
Therefore we induced from that that you were wrong about that fact in question.

That is not bullying... that is arguement.

[East Ormania]

I'd doubt that. But still, if he says so...

Nothing like becoming an Aarhus Hole to fight off Stockholm Syndrome.

Wise words.
None of the words that the OP said are, tough.

[Madda]

But when I'm told that my ideals and my opinion, which is an "Opinion", is wrong, then maybe that is.

It isn't bullying, no. And actually, if its actually hurting you in a way to constitute bullying, you're proving everyone's point.

How's the view from the corner you've pushed yourself into, by the way?

Look, the point I'm trying to make is that since the dawn of time, people have always been "bullied", and it's going to happen until the end of time. When we go to war in the future with a real military power, then we'll all be in big trouble.

[Ovisterra]

Never mind the psychological damage, the periods of prolonged misery or depression and the possibility of suicide. It toughens them up!

And the only thing that toughens them up more? Blaming them for it when they already feel alone and devoid of hope! Never help when you can criticise!

[The Nuclear Fist]

Look, the point I'm trying to make is that since the dawn of time, people have always been "bullied", and it's going to happen until the end of time. When we go to war in the future with a real military power, then we'll all be in big trouble.

So you have no actual point, then? Boy, I sure am surprised.

[Madda]

Look, the point I'm trying to make is that since the dawn of time, people have always been "bullied", and it's going to happen until the end of time. When we go to war in the future with a real military power, then we'll all be in big trouble.

So you have no actual point, then? Boy, I sure am surprised.

Um, yes I do have a point, I just stated it.

[Martean]

Really, why do people like YOU have to suffer like this? Okay, you've interiorisated, but i guess this may be horrible.

This are just stupid rules society imposes to us, Why is homosexuality so condemned? I've got homosexual friends and even one of them confessed to me that he had a crush on me (it was like 3 years ago) but, what? I know some girls also have crushes with me, really, It doesn't bother me, nor make me fell uncompfortable.

This is just one of them, We consider ourselves as the most intelligent species that has ever existed but, really, we are the only who can really KILL eachother for some oil, for some sq. kilometres of land, it's just... stupid.

[Ostroeuropa]

It isn't bullying, no. And actually, if its actually hurting you in a way to constitute bullying, you're proving everyone's point.

How's the view from the corner you've pushed yourself into, by the way?

Look, the point I'm trying to make is that since the dawn of time, people have always been "bullied", and it's going to happen until the end of time. When we go to war in the future with a real military power, then we'll all be in big trouble.

Bullying isn't anything like war.
Societal ostracization isn't akin to physical violence.
It's emotional violence maybe.

[Olthar]

It isn't bullying, no. And actually, if its actually hurting you in a way to constitute bullying, you're proving everyone's point.

How's the view from the corner you've pushed yourself into, by the way?

Look, the point I'm trying to make is that since the dawn of time, people have always been "bullied", and it's going to happen until the end of time. When we go to war in the future with a real military power, then we'll all be in big trouble.

At the dawn of time, there were no atoms, much less planets, much less people. Thus, there was no bullying.

[Martean]

Look, the point I'm trying to make is that since the dawn of time, people have always been "bullied", and it's going to happen until the end of time. When we go to war in the future with a real military power, then we'll all be in big trouble.

At the dawn of time, there were no atoms, much less planets, much less people. Thus, there was no bullying.

Or no time...

[Vareiln]

Good for you. Not all of us get stronger from bullying, though.

[Ostroeuropa]

Look, the point I'm trying to make is that since the dawn of time, people have always been "bullied", and it's going to happen until the end of time. When we go to war in the future with a real military power, then we'll all be in big trouble.

At the dawn of time, there were no atoms, much less planets, much less people. Thus, there was no bullying.

you are making a good point, but the pedant in me is dying to point out that without atoms you can't really have any meaningful sense of time, since time is just change occuring to matter.
I suppose you could have time with the component parts of atoms existing, but no atoms...
So a clarification, not a correction

[Cannot think of a name]

"You are wrong" is not bullying.

When I'm being told that a fact, such as the capital of the US is New York City, is wrong, then that isn't "bullying". But when I'm told that my ideals and my opinion, which is an "Opinion", is wrong, then maybe that is.

The thread's premise is tedious, so I haven't been following along, but I'll jump in here because of a pet peeve:

Some people seem to use the word "opinion" in the same way that kids use 'force shield' when playing pretend shoot 'em up.

"We should round up all [minority/type of person I don't like/people of a persuasion I don't like] and fence them in a field and let them starve to death."

Dude, that's awful and you're kind of a horrible person.

"But it's just my opinion!"

Oh, well...he invoked 'opinion' fellas, pack it up. I mean, if it wasn't an opinion we could address it on its merits, examine its foundational premises and potential outcomes, evaluate the effectiveness of its goals and in fact the value of those goals in the context of the world we live in etc...but, he said 'opinion' and as we all know opinions are sacred objects that must be treated with complete reverence and handled with the most delicate of touches lest the opinion might be exposed to the light of scrutiny.

(I'm not saying that you want to round people up, but that is an opinion. Not mine, the imaginary person we're talking about)

This is ridiculous. Not all opinions are the same. I mean, down to "orange is an ugly color" is not the same kind of opinion as "we need to round up people x".

Where did we get this idea that opinions are sacred? Opinions are the least sacred thing there is, they should be brought out and fed to the dogs, defended and argued and chewed on, beaten and explored until the only thing left is the idea that stood up to all of that and survived.

[Olthar]

At the dawn of time, there were no atoms, much less planets, much less people. Thus, there was no bullying.

you are making a good point, but the pedant in me is dying to point out that without atoms you can't really have any meaningful sense of time, since time is just change occuring to matter.
I suppose you could have time with the component parts of atoms existing, but no atoms...
So a clarification, not a correction

I know all that. I just didn't want to bother going into detail about something that is just a silly joke, anyways.

[Madda]

When I'm being told that a fact, such as the capital of the US is New York City, is wrong, then that isn't "bullying". But when I'm told that my ideals and my opinion, which is an "Opinion", is wrong, then maybe that is.

The thread's premise is tedious, so I haven't been following along, but I'll jump in here because of a pet peeve:

Some people seem to use the word "opinion" in the same way that kids use 'force shield' when playing pretend shoot 'em up.

"We should round up all [minority/type of person I don't like/people of a persuasion I don't like] and fence them in a field and let them starve to death."

Dude, that's awful and you're kind of a horrible person.

"But it's just my opinion!"

Oh, well...he invoked 'opinion' fellas, pack it up. I mean, if it wasn't an opinion we could address it on its merits, examine its foundational premises and potential outcomes, evaluate the effectiveness of its goals and in fact the value of those goals in the context of the world we live in etc...but, he said 'opinion' and as we all know opinions are sacred objects that must be treated with complete reverence and handled with the most delicate of touches lest the opinion might be exposed to the light of scrutiny.

(I'm not saying that you want to round people up, but that is an opinion. Not mine, the imaginary person we're talking about)

This is ridiculous. Not all opinions are the same. I mean, down to "orange is an ugly color" is not the same kind of opinion as "we need to round up people x".

Where did we get this idea that opinions are sacred? Opinions are the least sacred thing there is, they should be brought out and fed to the dogs, defended and argued and chewed on, beaten and explored until the only thing left is the idea that stood up to all of that and survived.

And that's your opinion. The great thing about America is that we have the freedom to have an opinion on our political views, religion, economics, and countless others, in my opinion.

[Vareiln]

The thread's premise is tedious, so I haven't been following along, but I'll jump in here because of a pet peeve:

Some people seem to use the word "opinion" in the same way that kids use 'force shield' when playing pretend shoot 'em up.

"We should round up all [minority/type of person I don't like/people of a persuasion I don't like] and fence them in a field and let them starve to death."

Dude, that's awful and you're kind of a horrible person.

"But it's just my opinion!"

Oh, well...he invoked 'opinion' fellas, pack it up. I mean, if it wasn't an opinion we could address it on its merits, examine its foundational premises and potential outcomes, evaluate the effectiveness of its goals and in fact the value of those goals in the context of the world we live in etc...but, he said 'opinion' and as we all know opinions are sacred objects that must be treated with complete reverence and handled with the most delicate of touches lest the opinion might be exposed to the light of scrutiny.

(I'm not saying that you want to round people up, but that is an opinion. Not mine, the imaginary person we're talking about)

This is ridiculous. Not all opinions are the same. I mean, down to "orange is an ugly color" is not the same kind of opinion as "we need to round up people x".

Where did we get this idea that opinions are sacred? Opinions are the least sacred thing there is, they should be brought out and fed to the dogs, defended and argued and chewed on, beaten and explored until the only thing left is the idea that stood up to all of that and survived.

And that's your opinion. The great thing about America is that we have the freedom to have an opinion on our political views, religion, economics, and countless others, in my opinion.

Yeah. You're free to have an opinion, and others are free to criticize it.